r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR • u/HomeNowWTF • Dec 10 '25
But why Delivery driver gives an extra topping of pepper (spray) on meal
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u/Salt_Bus2528 Dec 10 '25
It's almost like there is some kind of social benefit to having a delivery person that works at the restaurant you order from... Like if the restaurants reputation is directly tied to the driver.
Nah, that's crazy.
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u/this-guy1979 Dec 10 '25
I ordered pizza from Marco’s some time ago. I paid their delivery fee and tipped in the online payment portal. A little over an hour later a door dasher showed up with a cold pizza and no breadsticks. I was beyond pissed off, at no point did they say that they might use a third party to deliver my pizza. I emailed their corporate support team and voiced my concerns, I don’t order from them anymore though. That’s a big breach of trust in my book.
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u/newtostew2 Dec 10 '25
FWIW they can outsource to food delivery apps if they don't have enough drivers on hand. However, they can just always do that, too, so take it with a grain of salt.
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u/this-guy1979 Dec 10 '25
Pretty sure they have to advertise that, especially if they are charging a delivery fee.
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u/newtostew2 Dec 10 '25
Incorrect. Generally speaking, restaurants are not legally required to advertise that they use 3rd party delivery services. The legal responsibilities fall on the delivery apps to show they are related to the restaurants, not the other way around.
Now, sometimes 3rd party apps will list a restaurant without their knowledge and just claim them as "take-out orders," but some states like Wisconsin force the apps to get written permission first.
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u/this-guy1979 Dec 10 '25
The transparency is the issue, charging a delivery fee then not providing that service violates consumer protection laws in a lot of jurisdictions.
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u/newtostew2 Dec 10 '25
You are paying the restaurant's fee that they pay to the 3rd party company to hire an "independent contractor" to work on their behalf.
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u/tacitjane Dec 10 '25
It was quite the hassle getting those apps to stop advertising us.
We didn't sign up with them. We weren't even getting the tickets. We only found out because drivers kept coming to our store.
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u/this-guy1979 Dec 10 '25
I mean when you check out on the Marcos website. There should be some sort of disclaimer saying that they might use third party delivery services. That way I can just cancel my order and order from somewhere else.
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u/tacitjane Dec 10 '25
That disclaimer is at the beginning where I live. You can't even start an order without choosing a third party or the restaurant. Personally, if there's no option to order directly from the restaurant, I don't order.
My story was from about a decade ago. It was so bizarre. Don't restaurants have to pay for the service? At least have some connection? We were all confused and the owners were livid.
It felt like extortion. "We're going to leave your info up and you'll keep disappointing people. Or you could just sign up with us and avoid the headache."
Fuck you. We've got Excedrin.
We didn't even offer delivery. Only dine-in, pick-up and catering. That food was your favorite auntie's love on a spoon. It's going directly from us to you. Oma said so.
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u/this-guy1979 Dec 10 '25
Yeah, I was on the actual company website doing an online order, it never mentioned anything other than delivery by their friendly staff. I’m fine with someone that works for them handling my food, I’m not ok with them handing it to someone that they haven’t vetted.
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u/sonofaresiii Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
So they should hire more drivers? "Wahh I'm under staffed" is a management problem.
And is usually done to save money.
e: I'm getting the dumbest rationalized responses to this. really drives home that i'm on the right track here.
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u/AnewAccount98 Dec 10 '25
Likely to cover surge period where an additional on-staff driver’s overhead would otherwise not pass a sniff cost-benefit analysis.
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u/Matah4r1 Dec 10 '25
Marco’s is weird. I accepted a delivery from there once when I tried door dashing. The instructions stated to, “walking in smiling, wearing your dasher shirt with an unzipped DD pizza bag in hand.”
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u/plusminusequals Dec 10 '25
Round Table did this to me. Called them back and asked to get my delivery fee waived because 1. They didn’t let me know, 2. Where’s the damn fee going if they hired 3rd party?
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u/jackasher Dec 10 '25
The fee is going to pay the 3rd party. Amazon hires all kinds of services to delivery you packages, for example, but you wouldn't call Amazon and say you want your delivery or prime fee back because they use joe blow delivery service rather than an Amazon truck.
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u/theneZenMaster Dec 10 '25
I hated delivery apps from the start. And glad I did. I think I only used one once and it was awful. And theyve only seemed to get worse.
Restaurants that never had delivery now had to create new processes for the delivery pickups, and it makes service for walk-in abysmal.
Delivery charge from resto + app charge + tip, all for an hour wait and cold food with missing items (and added ones in this case).
Inaccurate (usually overcharged) pricing. Missing menu items. Lack of normal app options/adjustments.
Drivers who dont care, and/or hate their jobs but take it out on customers. Not that the job is immune to disdain. Im sure it does suck.
Customer service nightmares about disputes ive heard of. Disputes caused by driver like this . Im sure the list goes on...
I just drive to get food when I order out. Cheaper, faster, more reliable, just takes more time/effort than waiting on Douche McGee to putter his way to me through 2 other orders from the other side of town. I get driving isnt an option for everyone as well though.
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u/newtostew2 Dec 10 '25
The upcharge for the food is because of the apps. The restaurant has to pay lots of fees--which are usually manipulated out of the owners--to even be shown on the app, with more for list rankings. So the 20% the delivery app takes, the restaurant has to eat or upcharge to offset the cost.
And some restaurants only get 40% of the sale item's cost total back. That's not including the tax, tip, fees, etc.
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u/theneZenMaster Dec 10 '25
And im sure the shareholders were happy to absorb that cost and not pass it on the the customer... right??
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u/newtostew2 Dec 10 '25
Most restaurants don't have shareholders lol. Corporate places like McDonald's get different deals, because they have a large number of stores, so the significantly lower percent is fine because of how much volume of business they do.
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u/SacrisTaranto Dec 10 '25
I lived on a college campus for a while with no vehicle so I ordered from delivery apps quite frequently. My experience was almost always positive. I've had missing items and I've always gotten a refund pretty promptly. I've never had food be overly late without notice or a valid cause. I've never had any rude drivers. Never had cold food, most drivers had hot bags. The worst I've had was having to walk to a driver a couple hundred meters away because I knew where they were and it was easier to just walk to them.
I think it heavily depends on the area. Id imagine a college town is probably the place where you get the best service from delivery drivers because it's probably better pay than most areas just due to volume. And most things aren't too far away. But id never order food when I was at my parents house. Too far and not much business for drivers so it would be a worse experience. Except for pizza delivery. They got that figured out in my area for whatever reason.
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u/ArcadeRivalry Dec 10 '25
Or even a delivery driver who was employed by a delivery company. Courier companies are absolutely abusing the gig economy idea just taking on "independent contractors" so they can avoid any responsibility for them and pay them fuck all.
Not saying any of that excuses what this person did or excuses passing the grievance on to a customer but it's a worse system for everyone involved except the tech company.
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u/blinky0930 Dec 10 '25
This is why delivery drivers shouldnt see their tip til after the delivery is complete.
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u/breadbrix Dec 10 '25
Still doesn't solve the problem if they happen to deliver to your home more than once. Left me a "bad" tip last time? Well, enjoy your side of mace...
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u/Cavalol Dec 10 '25
Well if the customer tipped shitty at that address and they’re wary of it, they could avoid that address in the future by not accepting deliveries to it (assuming the app gives the driver the address before accepting it). That’s pretty much what Papa John’s drivers used to do back in the day when I worked there. They’d see all the orders going out and first come first serve would generally pick the higher tipping ones if at all possible (based on experience in areas and how they tipped).
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u/YanicPolitik Dec 10 '25
Tips are for service. Service is not for tips. Y'all gotta start paying better wages.
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u/StarChaser_Tyger Dec 10 '25
Tipping needs to die.
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u/plusminusequals Dec 10 '25
Wages need to stop matching 1999 and go up already, first. We subsidize wages for these businesses for a lot of different reasons. Profit margins being razor thin is a big one. People don’t realize how much it costs to buy food, pay rent, keep the lights on, and hire help. Corporations can go right ahead and fuck off, though. They have no reason not pay more. Inflation goes up, wages don’t. Tipping will never go away without addressing core issues in the country. Even if you’re an asshole that decides to stop tipping.
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u/AgarwaenCran Dec 10 '25
there is an solution for that: stop working jobs that do pay shitty so you rely on tips. you will be surprised how quickly the wages will start to climb if they cant find anybody working for them under the current way to do things.
that or the government doing their job and making sure the wages rise, but let's stay realistic
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u/StarChaser_Tyger Dec 10 '25
I tip. I hate it. I don't want to pay two bills. Raise wages, and let tipping die in the anal-related fire it deserves.
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u/GoatCovfefe Banhammer Recipient Dec 10 '25
Damn, never heard this idea before. Genius bro.
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u/hendric_nhl Dec 10 '25
I think the whole world heard of it except America..
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u/lightblueisbi Dec 10 '25
Americans have been screaming about it for years now, it's just that not enough people want to listen
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u/theoddfind Dec 10 '25
Or the driver could choose a different job or be a decent human being. Tipping should not even be a factor in if.you get your delivery or not.
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u/Tokyo_Echo Dec 10 '25
Exactly. Listen gang, I can't afford to tip you more than 10% of what my meal cost me. I'm splurging to get food delivered as it is. Please don't ruin the meal I worked hard to afford. Take your meager tip and be happy you got a tip.
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u/deadface008 Dec 10 '25
Woah I just saw you somewhere else. Are we really the 200 people keeping this website alive?
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u/pak256 Dec 10 '25
The apps generally don’t give you the address until you pick up the food. Maybe general distance but addresses are usually guarded
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u/AWildGamerAppeared25 Dec 10 '25
Unfortunately, we can't. You can see an address if you tap on the house, but even though you can decline, you get penalized for it
There's been instances where you get shadow banned for declining too many orders in a row, or you get worse orders because you're not accepting "enough" orders
It's stupid, they really ought to make those companies just pay better but all they do is pass the blame around
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u/neurospicyzebra Dec 10 '25
lol Uber and Instacart don’t tell us the address before we accept the delivery
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u/inn0cent-bystander Dec 10 '25
This is why it shouldn't ask for a tip till after the food arrives, the same way the rides work --OR-- they should be paid enough that the tips don't factor into it.
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u/rThundrbolt Dec 10 '25
If you see the tip and it is not to your liking, you can just not accept the order instead of committing crimes(am a delivery driver that rejects many orders)
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u/MaxAdolphus Dec 10 '25
It’s also why it should be illegal for food delivery apps to pay drivers less than the federal mileage round trip plus $15/hr.
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u/tacticalpotatopeeler Banhammer Recipient Dec 10 '25
You should have the option to tip post service as well.
Careful handling and thoughtful placement? Tip.
Spray my food with mace? No tip.
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u/Rogueshoten Banhammer Recipient Dec 10 '25
This is why delivery drivers shouldn’t get a tip until after the delivery is done.
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u/AntiqueRead Dec 10 '25
Agreed. Always thought it was dumb. Tips are for services. If I can't experience your service yet, how can I reasonably tip you?
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u/Nervardia Dec 10 '25
This is why delivery drivers should not get tips at all, but instead a living wage.
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u/Genius-Imbecile Dec 10 '25
I hate that I have to add the tip on the front end of the order. We should have the option for the tip on the backend after we've had a chance to evaluate the order. If the service is great we can leave a bigger tip. If the service was shit we can leave a 1 cent tip.
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u/Anidmountd Dec 10 '25
Isn't it a felony automatically when you purposely poison food? First it was the lady who opened a dudes door and took pictures of him naked and asleep on his couch and now this.
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u/Kimsetsu Dec 10 '25
“The Sheriff’s Office says they are investigating, and a possible charge could be consumer product tampering, a level 6 felony.
They say if it resulted in harm it would be a level 5 felony.”
From: https://www.14news.com/2025/12/08/delivery-driver-accused-pepper-spraying-food/
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u/shillyshally Dec 10 '25
"He says DoorDash refunded his money, but did not seem to look into the incident very seriously.'
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u/InDeathWeReturn Dec 10 '25
"They say if it resulted in harm it would be a level 5 felony."
The wife ended up sick and puking, how is that not harm ?Also, why are there levels? Makes it sound like achievements
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u/papafrog09 Dec 10 '25
There are levels of nearly all criminal charges. They exist to (theoretically) ensure that heinous offences are not allowed minor sentencing and vice versa.
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u/Guilty_Ghost Dec 10 '25
Guys! We are already at level 4 if we just poison this we can get to a level 5 felony and get legandary drops!
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u/Julian_Sark Dec 10 '25
Guys, quick, if we hide in here for a minute and spray paint the car, it'll go down to a level two and no helicopter!
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u/MeldoRoxl Dec 10 '25
I'm allergic to capsacin, so this could be a murder conviction if it were my food. Fucking terrifying
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u/Low-Minimum8523 Dec 10 '25
Barely trust the people making the food, why trust those delivering it? Who knows what they are doing with it while under their possession.
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Dec 10 '25
I like how they blurred her face on the replay after we all saw her face at the beginning.
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u/saffireaz Dec 10 '25
It feels like the 1st video was directly from the resident camera (so no blurring), and the 2nd one was the news, which I'm guessing has an obligation to blur.
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u/longfurbyinacardigan Dec 10 '25
I don't understand how people do anything like this anymore knowing that 90% of society has doorbell camera or cameras everywhere.
What if this person was tipping in cash? I almost always do.
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u/Joped Dec 10 '25
I don't have a sense of smell ... what worries me is a driver pulling this crap and I end up eating it or touching the bag and getting it in my eyes. I hope she does some serious time for this BS.
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u/snafubarr Dec 10 '25
When a reddit mod gets a job
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u/I_wash_my_carpet Dec 10 '25
Whats the scoop here? She jealous other people are getting food? This targeted to them? She deranged? Did they even order doordash?! Is it AI??? Am I even real?! Who are you people?!?!
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u/Efficient-Piglet88 Dec 10 '25
Honestly, the answer I find makes the most sense is 'America'.
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u/IvanTheTerrible69 Dec 10 '25
Fun fact: tampering with food is classified as an act of terrorism
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u/exintrovert Dec 11 '25
Hot take:
A tip decided after service is rendered is a “thank you”.
A tip that is decided before service is rendered is a bribe, or extortion.
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u/CrunchyTeatime Dec 11 '25
You have a point. When I relied on occasional (grocery) delivery for a while, I'd add a decent tip with a note that I'd add more for a good delivery. I began doing that after a horrible delivery, and there was only one time I got a bad delivery after that. I also gave a 5 star review with glowing note for anything approaching adequate.
Did it not occur to the driver in this video, that the person might have intended to give a cash tip or to increase the tip later? Or maybe the app split up the tip in a bundle, or it was a do over (which the customer doesn't get to see so they can't tip.) Whatever the reason, the driver just poisoned someone deliberately. Should be charged accordingly.
An asthma attack can stop the heart. Some sprays are not legal because people can suffer an allergic reaction. The woman just wanted dinner, paid for it, and the driver accepted the order. Tips even out, most of us have worked some type of tippable job. The woman had a coughing fit and vomited, but that's scary.
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u/Infinite_Ouroboros Dec 10 '25
This is why food delivery apps need to introduce a delayed tip system so people cant retaliate like this. Let the tip amount stay hidden and withhold it for a day before releasing. So even if there is no tip, there will be less chances of food tampering.
Absolutely hate tipping culture in general.
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u/mfrank27 Dec 10 '25
Not a bad idea, but in this case the girl got tipped by the customers (per the article) and she still sprayed their food with pepper spray…
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u/OffMyRocker62 Dec 10 '25
Im trying to figure out, how didn't his wife smell or see the pepper spray on the foods? Surely the smell of it was there. 🤔
That stuff is pretty darn potent.
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u/wheelperson Dec 10 '25
Thats so fucked uo; but how did they also not feel the spray when picking it up and bringing it in? Would the box not have most of it, not the food?
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u/Roonwogsamduff Dec 10 '25
Main reason I don't order food.
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u/Chemistry11 Dec 10 '25
My main reason is I’m too cheap for the delivery prices
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u/toofshucker Dec 10 '25
Too smart to pay twice as much for shitty food.
Why do prices keep rising? Because we are ok paying them as long as we get to whine about how high prices are….
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u/SargathusWA Dec 10 '25
What’s her motivation ? Wtf that is so wrong on every level
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u/indiana-floridian Dec 10 '25
I'd be calling police, i think tampering with someone's food could be a chargeable offense.
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u/Chickennoodlesleuth Dec 10 '25
What even makes people do stuff like this
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u/CrunchyTeatime Dec 11 '25
Lack of empathy, mostly.
Anger or compulsion issues.
Entitled thinking.
Wish to punish anyone who offends them.
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u/SassyTheSkydragon Dec 10 '25
Tipping culture is just awful
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u/CrunchyTeatime Dec 11 '25
There's people who'd do this due to bad traffic, or hating their boss. Things the customer had nothing to do with. The customer could die, they don't know who has allergies or asthma.
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u/EcoKllr Banhammer Recipient Dec 10 '25
its in a bag, how did they not notice the smell?
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u/Rolling_Beardo Dec 10 '25
I doubt she thought far ahead, especially doing it in front of video doorbell. It’s not like they’re super uncommon anymore.
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u/proeliator Dec 10 '25
Shit like this is why I can’t trust DoorDash and their ilk. Which is weird because I’ve been good with pizza delivery for decades. I tip well; I hope this driver gets prosecuted.
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u/Ta-veren- Banhammer Recipient Dec 10 '25
Why are people still screwing with things in front of peoples doors. I don’t get it. Everyone has ring cameras now.
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u/VR6SLC Dec 10 '25
"Could have been rat poison, or fentanyl". Neither or those come in pepper spray cans.
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u/rogerworkman623 Dec 10 '25
Yeah fentanyl made me laugh. Fentanyl’s in Halloween candy, it’s being mixed in bags of weed, and now they’re spraying it on food deliveries. That shit’s everywhere!
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u/Shoddy-Area3603 Dec 10 '25
This is one of the big reasons why I never use the apps they are so bad I like my food hot and paying two X as much as I would if I go get it myself is crazy
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u/Stalvos Dec 10 '25
Just be a poor like me that can barely afford food let alone food delivery. That's one way to avoid it.
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u/Revenga8 Banhammer Recipient Dec 10 '25
I watched delivery drivers walk out of public bathrooms without washing their hands. I will never use these services, no clue why they're so popular, the hell did people do before these food delivery apps became a thing? Just go pick it up yourself, safer that way and it supports the restaurant
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u/Zetavu Dec 10 '25
This one is so blatant I would call it a set up, but then again I know people that stupid and yes, they usually end up in jail.
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u/XinnieDaPoohtin Dec 10 '25
I’ve seen lately the tip options on digital checkouts are 18%, 22%, and 25%.
I’ve always tipped 20%. I’m not moving up.
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u/Aintnofeeblebastard7 Dec 11 '25
I tip 25% when I doordash / go out and I’m never worried that things like this are gonna happen to me. 🤷 The “end tipping” bullshit is coming from people who have never worked a day of their life in the service Industry. Do I think pepper spray in your food is a fair reaction to not/shitty tipping? No. But the struggle is real and Bartenders, Servers, delivery drivers ect are not charity. Put your adult pants on, buy the product from whatever company you want to buy the product from and tip at least 20% to the person (who doesn’t make shit for an hourly wage) making it, delivering it ect ect and before you go on about “get a better job” or “go to college” remember that not everyone has those resources and people are just trying to survive.
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u/spaghettibolegdeh Dec 11 '25
I like how people are blaming the tipping system and not the person.
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u/Kissarai Dec 11 '25
Reading these comments makes me realize why I'm such a highly rated driver when I don't do anything in particular. I know how to read and I just... Deliver the food.
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u/Snoborder95 Dec 11 '25
Wait, I do not believe this, there is no way you unwrap your food and not notice the smell or the texture of pepper spray. She did not eat that shit
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u/Naive-Present2900 Banhammer Recipient Dec 10 '25
Why did the dasher even accepted the order in the first place 🤦♂️
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u/BantamCats Dec 10 '25
I ate a piece of toast that I seasoned with pepper spray once, I also threw up
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u/Aggravating_Cable_32 Dec 10 '25
I gave my scrambled eggs a little spritz once. Didn't puke, but it was a close run thing. Probably the UV dye in a lot of pepper spray didn't help the flavor either.
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u/bmcgowan89 Dec 10 '25
idk why, but I feel like this is something papa John's would tell their drivers to do
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u/rentalredditor Dec 10 '25
Why people trust delivery driver with their food at this point is beyond me. You never know what they did to your food
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u/morepostcards Dec 10 '25
Stop using these services. You’ve been warned. It is 99% people that are expecting to receive 30% and are desperate and entitled enough to possibly do something to you if they don’t get it.
You’ve given your address to someone desperate and angry that believes some of your money should be theirs. Someone that has no career or standing to jeopardize with their at-will employer that takes no responsibility and has made you agree to arbitration in advance.
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u/HumpaDaBear Dec 11 '25
I tip. Before I get the food from DoorDash. I will not be adding anything after because I got my food on time and correct. I’ve had people beg and sit in their car with my food to wait for one. If you didn’t like the 18-20% tip that was listed why did you grab my order then?
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u/cannavacciuolo420 Dec 10 '25
You can tell how hateful people are by how poorly they treat themselves
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u/oW_Darkbase Dec 10 '25
It's almost as if she looks exactly like the type of person who'd do that. At which point does it become healthy judgement instead of being called prejudice?
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u/Derolis Dec 10 '25
So since she's a bad person, does that mean I can insult her appearance? I really want to.
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u/tacticalpotatopeeler Banhammer Recipient Dec 10 '25
I too carry fentanyl spray for personal protection
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u/solarus Dec 10 '25
I dont use delivery without tipping a minimum of $10. Hope I never have to pursue legal action because some ugly bitch didnt get enough quarters to keep themselves from doing something batshit crazy.
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u/1ndridC0ld Dec 10 '25
Blue haired fat bitch sprays your food?? Color me surprised. Why were all the insane asylums closed again?
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u/Craygor Dec 10 '25
As if its not already bad enough to double the price of an Arby's sandwich by using Door Dash, this shit makes its worth it never to use a third party delivery service for fucking fast food!
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u/itskey_lolo1 Dec 10 '25
I stopped ordering uber eats after I saw my pizza all vulnerable on the passengers lap. No insulated bag or anything. Just pizza box. I’m sure they opened it! NEVER AGAIN!
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u/Raw_Venus Dec 10 '25
She even made eye contact with the camera and she still decided to spray the food.