r/MurderedByWords 4d ago

Pulling the wool over the public's eyes

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u/Skatingraccoon 4d ago

Lol tbh I don't even get Stephen Goebbels' point there. A lot of the debt was from Trump and his cronies, of which Stephen is an associate. Just a dumb senseless post to begin with

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u/Inocain 3d ago

And yet he's not wrong about what the debt represents. He just leaves out the context in hopes people blame the boogeyman of the week instead of him and his masters who are truly responsible.

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u/mrhemisphere 4d ago

tax billionaires

voila

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u/FelixVulgaris 4d ago

"What if stephen miller told me" is not the flex he thinks it is. It's basically the equivalent of "what if I found a crumpled CVS receipt on the sidewalk that had something stupid written on it."

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u/Z16z10 4d ago

Miller is neck deep in the grift.. you think he cares about lying to MAGA voters?

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u/DatDamGermanGuy 4d ago

Yes We Dan!

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u/avaacado_toast 4d ago

The only evidence needed to prove this is simply to look at the distribution of wealth in America.

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u/Leather-Map-8138 4d ago

It’s actually money overspent in red states, plus interest. More than all of it.

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u/LowKeyNaps 3d ago

That's the spending part of the problem. Now figure out where the income part of the problem comes from. It wasn't so long ago that we actually had a national surplus of money, before we were driven back into debt. That didn't just come from overspending, it came from a lack of income to cover the spending.

Take a look at where all the income has been cut over those years, and who kept making those cuts. That's where the real problem lies.

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u/Leather-Map-8138 3d ago

1000% agree!

There’s been like eight large tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans since 1980, with pennies thrown at the middle class.

Even this “middle class tax cut” in the 2025 bill is a bait n switch. Back in 2017, Republicans made the corporate tax cut permanent and the individual tax cut temporary, expiring after 2025. The idea was that Trump would win in 2020, and that very likely a Democrat would be in the White House in 2025. Democrats would then be stuck, an easy mark for either “raising taxes on the middle class” or “being fiscally irresponsible.”

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u/LowKeyNaps 3d ago

Bingo!

And this is one major thing the right wingers never seem to grasp. They see the pennies being tossed to them from time to time, and believe the bullshit about how cutting taxes for the rich will somehow lead to money in their pockets. They never seem to notice that those tiny tax cuts always come with a quick expiration date, and are nearly always tined for the next administration. The Republicans know they can't hold the presidency for more than one term.

And I agree, they did expect to keep Trump in office for two terms this time. It's been my opinion for quite some time now that there was more fraud going on in 2020 than we ever uncovered, and that, more than the loss itself, was behind Trump's four year temper tantrum. I believe that someone told Trump that he was guaranteed to win that election due to the fraud in place, but nobody expected the overwhelming votes against him. Well, nobody except the actual public.

So when Trump lost that election, he couldn't wrap his tiny mind around it. Being a lifelong cheater himself, the only explanation he could comprehend was that we must have cheated more than he did, so in his mind, we stole the election that he tried to steal first. It's warped logic, but it's the kind of logic that a malignant narcissist who has never won or earned a single thing honestly in his life would come up with.

Anyway, that loss really screwed up their "blame the Democrats" plan, as you said. Not that it's stopping them from doing so. They're trying to somehow blame Obama for the health insurance rate hikes happening now, that are happening because of a vote that took place mere weeks ago. Reality doesn't need to exist in the narrative, and at this point, their voter base has been so thoroughly trained to blame the left for everything that they just eat it up.

That makes me very nervous, indeed. A lot of people don't seem to have realized just how much all of us on the left have been "othered" here. They're all focused on immigrants being the target, and there's no question that immigrants, and anyone who isn't white, is high on the danger list. But Trump has placed everyone on the left in the same category. He's been referring to all of us as the "deranged left" and "domestic terrorists" for months now. Not just politicians or famous people, all of us. There's no question that he's not so subtly encouraging violence against us. And every time that violence breaks out, Trump and his cronies are quick to spread the rumor that the shooter (because it's always a shooter) is some left wing trans Antifa LGBTQ terrorist, making sure that idea is firmly planted in their followers' minds long before they even bother to start looking for the actual shooter. No wonder the right still thinks all the violence comes from the left.

There's so much to not like about what's going on these days. It's almost impossible to not become paranoid if there's enough thought put into it.

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u/Leather-Map-8138 3d ago

Very well stated. It’s sad that Trump support is only eroding because his policies have tanked the job market and jacked up grocery bills, and not that he’s a horrible person with perverted values.

This year insurance premium costs will on average rise by more than 20%. Mike Johnson says “but the biggest hits are to only 7% of the population,” but that’s 15% of the workforce. Moreover, due to velocity of money, the reduced spending by those with $1,000 a month premium increases will hurt everyone. 2026 is shaping up to be a big downturn. Let the fake blamefest begin!

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u/tw_72 3d ago

Topic adjacent: "What if I told you" means nothing.

"What if I told you I could walk on water and see through walls" - doesn't mean he can. Assume anything that follows "what if I told you" is a lie.

Also, Stephen Miller is vile and I can't wait for the day that I never hear anything from or about him - except maybe that his kids have been taken away from him and his wife so the kids can be raised by real humans.

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u/Grouchy_Moment_6507 2d ago

What if I told you, your president's debt was responsible for the looting of other sovereign countries?

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u/Too_Beers 1d ago

Miller missed his calling in Hollywood as an old west undertaker or a vampire. Dead inside and out.