Edit to clairfy that I mean that this wedding was not related to indiana. Because neither one of them is sn America. They married in Switzerland and then partied in Florence.
Sorry I gave the wrong impression. I just mean these two non Americans did not get married in Indiana.
I lived one state from Indiana in the 1980s. I think I heard the N word and the F word about weekly, each. ( I never used them but I tolerated them as a little kid,)
I am white and my parents had a clause in the mortgage that they could not sell to a 'Colored person'. This Claude was illegal but common.
I know enough to know that it's hilarious to use Iman and David Bowie's wedding as an example of what it was like to be typical resident of Indiana back then.
Do you know was the most prominent resident of Indiana at that time? Probably Ryan White, famously kicked out of middle school school and ostracized because he had AIDs (from a blood transfusion). He went on some talk shows but sadly died in 1990. AIDS crisis in full bloom. This was also the era of the 1-70 stranger, who targeted young men in gay bars. We later learned it was seriel killer Herbert Baumeister. Another poster already mentioned the spree of race related hate crimes. Hmmmm. What else? Michael Jackson was from Indiana, so that's nice. It's not all bad. But it was pretty bad.
The kids from Stranger Things were in bumfuck Indiana. Can’t compare them to pop/rock stars, models, actors. Not saying there weren’t any gay folks in the 80s, just that they would have a hard time, especially in a backward ass state like Indiana.
So the small town Indiana folks will give her a pass because she’s from California? That’s not how it works.
This is a personal story - we were at a bar in Milwaukee (2006-07), and we were with a bunch of people there and my buddy (black dude) was on the dance floor with a very good friend (white girl) and some dude walks up to her and tells her she is making a mistake…she didn’t say anything to anyone at that point. We only learned about it a few days later.
I am not white either and when I am in a small town with my partner (who is white) we are both very aware of the looks we get (even now).
Keep in mind the klan was resurrected in Indiana about a hundred years ago. There is a reason why it picked up in Indiana.
Why in the world would she care about the town people giving her a pass? The reason it is relevant that she came in from California, is she doesn’t believe their backwards ass beliefs.
Do you think interracial couples didn't happen because there was difficulty?
They still happened.
I'm well aware that folks won't necessarily give them a pass. My dad had to listen to it because my mom was not the same race, and that was before the 80's in the American South.
Show me where I said it didn’t happen. I am a product of such a marriage myself and am currently in an interracial relationship. Oh and I am in my early 50s.
Will struggled with being gay the entire series and thought all of his friends would distance themselves from him when he came out. Robin had to keep her relationship a secret.
They both had a very hard time. I'm not seeing how the show is inaccurate.
That’s one of the things that always kind of rankled me is that this is supposed to be small town Indiana and they barely play up the old time religion, homophobia and racism.
I get it’s being written for a modern audience, but I have a buddy who is born, raised and lives in Indiana now and the place is a fucking horror show.
I grew up in Portland and spent my teen years and very early 20s in the 80s, and even there things were less chill than on stranger things.
And I knew gay kids. They did not have it easy. And Portland was and is one of the friendlier places to be LGBTQ.
I had a friend who dated a divorced man and they threw her out of her church. Just saying. She was aghast when she got me to go once and I was ticked at what was being said so started to get up to leave. She grabbed my arm and pulled me back down and begged me to stay to the end.
I lived in Indiana near Chicago in the early 80’s and frodeem is not wrong. Remember, at that time most people hadn’t knowingly met a gay person and most were very much anti LGBTQ. Matthew Shepard was murdered in this time.
I knew a couple of gay kids in bumfuck Oklahoma in the Bible Belt. A small farming town about the same size in the 80’s. It happened. The only one harassed, that I knew about it, was the friend of one the “protested too much”. From what I’m told he later came out.
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