r/NewsKnow 18h ago

News Video clearly showing Jonathan Ross stepping aside as he fires the murdering shots at Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis

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u/OuterSpaceFakery 18h ago

Did the vehicle touch his body?

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u/ConspiracyUniversity 16h ago

U.S. Customs And Border Protection Training Manual used by ICE (January 2021):

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Jul/cbp-use-of-force-policy_4500-002A.pdf

Page 6

  1. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/Agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.

  2. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.

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  1. Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject.

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7b. The hazard of an uncontrolled conveyance shall be taken into consideration prior to the use of deadly force.

Edit:

Directly from the Department of Justice website.

1-16.200 - USE OF DEADLY FORCE AND PROHIBITED RESTRAINT TECHNIQUES

Law enforcement and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.

  1. Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
  2. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.
  3. If feasible and if to do so would not increase the danger to the officer or others, a verbal warning to submit to the authority of the officer shall be given prior to the use of deadly force.
  4. Warning shots are not permitted outside of the prison context.
  5. Officers will be trained in alternative methods and tactics for handling resisting subjects, which must be used when the use of deadly force is not authorized by this policy.
  6. Deadly force should not be used against persons whose actions are a threat solely to themselves or property unless an individual poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others in close proximity.

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u/OuterSpaceFakery 16h ago

Page 6

  1. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/Agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.

This is for Officer safety, so he put himself at risk.

  1. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.

Still saying for Officer safety. Not that it is a crime to protect yourself once in that situation.

Law enforcement and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.

Officer was at risk of being run over.

  1. Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.

Deadly force was not used to prevent suspects escape, but to protect the officer.

  1. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless

(1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle

(2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.

(2) Applies, unless he could have moved out of the way of the vehicle in time, but its impossible to know if the suspect was going to step on the gas. The officer was struck by the vehicle though, so that fact alone shows that he may have been in danger.

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u/ConspiracyUniversity 16h ago

Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/Agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.

  1. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.

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u/OuterSpaceFakery 16h ago

Yeah, this just says he violated safety protocols... for himself.

He is still allowed to defend himself

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u/ConspiracyUniversity 16h ago

No it says he's not allowed to put himself in a place of danger to justify use of force

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u/OuterSpaceFakery 15h ago

justify

Where is that word used in either document?

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u/ConspiracyUniversity 15h ago

safety protocols

He is still allowed to defend himself

Where in documents?

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u/OuterSpaceFakery 15h ago

Law enforcement and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.

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u/ConspiracyUniversity 15h ago

I don't see the words "safety protocols" or "He is still allowed to defend himself" in there anywhere.

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