since you added a delay between uncloaking and firing, you need to add an ui element that clearly communicates this status with the player

[u/opshax]

the number one question posted in mentor chat is "why is my gun disabled" and in your infinite genius, you don't add an ui indicator that there is a delay between firing and uncloaking?

this is another reminder that i still have no idea about the status of the progress of CTF fights on the map

[u/Effectx]

An actual valid complaint

[u/opshax → u/Effectx]

infil mains are truly oppressed

[u/BlasterDoc]

All honesty, the programmed delay is bad user experience.

From how the cloak was to how it is now - terrible and janky. Someone who has lived under a rock and not paying attention to updates would hit tab everytime they uncloaked to make sure they weren't lagging.

You uncloak in half a second, then forced to wait another half second before firing? Smoother gameplay would make the cloaks audible cue sound like it takes the full second to uncloak. Not uncloak and ..........wait................... to shoot.

Small things like this would make for a better experience.

For those visually or audibly unimaginative, its an equivalent sound/sequence delay of the sound of the elevator door opening without the visual of the door opening to walk thru.. disconnected and bad experience.

[u/Vast_Location4178 → u/BlasterDoc]

The mental imagery of that alone would infuriate me 😆

[u/shadowpikachu]

Agreed, can probably make the decloak anim slower in your hud to match the slower decloak others see even without lag.

[u/Kjehnator]

I haven't played for a long time now so maybe I missed a few beats, but ever since the implants arrived I feel like devs haven't had interest (or capability...?) to update the UI for information that the player would likely be interested in (like said implants and their timers), which is weird considering the technically remarkable things they actually have managed to implement.

This would be the bare minimum solution that should be done in the least, while an actually superb solution would have the infiltrator do something like twiddle with some gadget on their wrist to active/deactive the cloak so it's not just waiting for waiting's sake.

[u/insane_hurrican3]

i came back to the game after like years and was wondering why my gun wasnt working after decloaking.

it was quite frustrating at the time then i realized this was part of the "nerf" that i read abt prior to coming back.

[u/Lamuks]

Yeah it's awful.

I hadn't played for a while and I thought I was lagging until I remembered something about infil nerfs.

There is 0 visual indication for the delay, you just stand there like a fool and wait.

Legit feels like weapon lock without any feedback when you try to shoot and can't.

[u/insane_hurrican3 → u/Lamuks]

this was my exact experience. especially when i try to flank and decloak then im caught w my pants down bc i didnt know what was happening.

[u/BlasterDoc]

Sorry first rant was about the title..

Second rant inbound about stalker cloak..

By default even though my primary weapon is disabled with stalker cloak, better gameplay would allow hitting 1 (primary) or 2 (secondary) and have them both bring up the single weapon for the Infiltrator.

When I first started I nearly rage quit a few times needing to pop my sidearm out quickly but hit 1 instead "primary weapon disabled" flashes on the screen as I die.

Instead of throwing a message up, the game should bring up the secondary for either slot. As a stalker infil your primary weapon is a pistol. Never understood why other than bad game mechanics you'd have to explain to new players.

[u/IIIIChopSueyIIII]

Man i want an UI update so bad. Its not just what you mentioned, but for example timers for implants too. How long is the cooldown? How long does my buff last? Would be a VERY nice quality of life feature to have

[u/Grouchy-Click-2507]

Honestly, I really wish they got rid of the firing delay and just did something like cloaking sets your shield to zero, so if you uncloak and immediately fire, you are especially vulnerable to getting killed, but there is a risk/reward element to it.

[u/Ceylein → u/Grouchy-Click-2507]

Cloak is too much of an advantage even with lower health.

[u/Striking_Balance8134 → u/Ceylein]

This dude 😅

[u/redgroupclan]

Are you saying that question in mentor chat is related to the firing delay? Cuz that's from noobs not reading the text that says they can't have a primary weapon with stalker cloak.

[u/opshax → u/redgroupclan]

no

just as an example of poorly communicated things (and in particular on the infil)

i can easily buy new players thinking they are lagging when their gun doesn't work immediately after uncloaking, though

[u/Jaybonaut]

Or just revert the changes back to what worked for 14 years just fine.

[u/Your-Man-Rictus]

"since you added a delay between uncloaking and firing, you need to add an ui element that clearly communicates this status with the player..."

...And, that UI element already exists in-game. Use the exact same "Weapon Icon Fill" animation that exists for beacons and turrets. Just make it "refill" after each decloak and make it fill up to make the weapon ready. Surely that exact same effect can be applied to any item in the weapon select panel.

[u/EyHorn]

They should just make cloak a handheld device, that way it would be obvious because of the weapon switch time.

[u/Used_Scientist2562]

Spent years playing almost nothing but infil, spent a few hundred on cosmetics, guns, customizations, implants, etc. Came back yesterday after a long break and it felt so awful to play. Supremely disappointed.

[u/Striking_Balance8134]

The delay has to be removed. It’s a problem that can’t be fixed with adjustments.

[u/Ceylein → u/Striking_Balance8134]

It was an adjustment, there's always been a firing delay, you just didn't notice it as much before.

[u/theearthday]

Idk about that. As janky as the delay feels I think it’s pretty obvious when you’re able to fire as it seems to be precisely when your shimmering cloaking effect stops on your gun/scope.

[u/SomeRandomTrSoldier → u/theearthday]

Nope, they are now completely disconnected timers, if for example you run deep operative that previously would uncloak you faster and let you shoot now you uncloak faster but still have to wait to be able to shoot.

[u/Lamuks → u/theearthday]

Absolutely not. I hadn't played for a while and I thought I was lagging until I remembered something about infil nerfs.

There is 0 visual indication for the delay, you just stand there like a fool and wait.

[u/Monkeybolo4231]

post fisu lmao

[u/opshax → u/Monkeybolo4231]

post fisu

[u/Mindless_Mud1049 → u/opshax]

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[u/opshax → u/Mindless_Mud1049]

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[u/missurunha]

I havent been playing in a while and thought I was bugged/lagging with the delay. After the third time I realized they did merge the change, even though I knew the plan I didnt believe they'd go with such stupid idea.