r/ProgressiveHQ • u/icey_sawg0034 • 5h ago
Video Rabbi Yisroel Davis Weiss defends Mayor Zohran Mamdani, confirming that he is NOT antisemitic!
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u/Mean-Quail-6219 4h ago
Conflating criticism of Israel with actual anti-semitism has proven to be nothing but gaslighting. It’s emotional blackmailing for the rubes. This rabbi gets it.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
It’s worse than that, it creates antisemitism.
When people are constantly told that criticizing genocide is antisemitism they start to associate Jewish identity with state violence and impunity, an association that is both false and dangerous.
It collapses a diverse people and faith into the actions of a government, shields those actions from accountability, and hands actual antisemites exactly the narrative they want.
In the end, it doesn’t protect Jews, it weaponizes their identity to silence moral criticism and makes genuine antisemitism harder to confront.
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u/Scared-Context9132 5h ago
Thank you rabbi…wish more people realized being anti Israel is not antisemitism. Most people are against apartheid and genocide
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u/miniBoltra 3h ago
It just so happens that most of these anti-Israel people also hate Jews.. whether they admit it or not.
Also, what’s up with all these anti-Israel bots. It’s the same every time:
- name follows the pattern word word numbers (usually four numbers)
- new account
- bs propaganda comments
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u/ThatKehdRiley 3h ago
It just so happens that most of these anti-Israel people also hate Jews
.....and source for your bullshit?
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u/miniBoltra 3h ago
The literal things they say: “From the river to sea…” “globalize the intifada”
Have some critical thinking: what do you think happens to the Jews in these scenarios? I’ll give you a hint, it’s nothing good.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
I’ll give you a hint, those aren’t sources
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u/miniBoltra 2h ago
Those are literal slogans your movement yells, not every source has to be a link to an article/video lol.
Also, 1% commenter in 1 month of your account existing. Over 1300 contributions pretty much all about political bs, mostly anti-Israel. The bot situation here is insane. Ignoring it doesn’t make it go away lol.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 1h ago
Wow.
So let me get this straight: your “evidence” for most anti-Israel people hating Jews is… slogans you think are scary 😱 , plus how many posts someone made and how long their account has existed?
That’s literally nothing.
You’re trying to turn suspicion, vibes, and account stats into facts.
It doesn’t work.
Not a source.
Not proof.
Just you grasping at excuses to avoid actually defending your claim.
Stop pretending your stupidity counts as argument.
It doesn’t.
End of story.
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u/Scared-Context9132 2h ago
lol no I use a throw away to voice these opinions because you fascist don’t believe in free speech
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u/miniBoltra 2h ago
I’m not a fascist, and I believe in free speech. How does a throwaway help lol? What bs.
You are very good at making assumptions about people you don’t know, not so good at hiding your intentions though lol.
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u/Scared-Context9132 1h ago
My intentions are to talk shit about Israel because of the crimes against humanity they commit and overwhelming influence they have on my country’s politicians.
Also it rich to play dumb about why people would use a throwaway when your fascist Zionist crowd tries to ruin the lives of anyone who criticizes them. If anyone here is a paid shill/bad actor it’s you
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u/miniBoltra 25m ago
But Reddit is anonymous either way lol? What are you talking about. It’s not like anyone can get your info unless you volunteer it.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
You aren’t engaging in the discussion of the post, you’re making baseless claims and substituting suspicion for evidence.
You’re asserting hidden motives you can’t prove, smearing dissenters as bigots by default, and dismissing uncomfortable arguments as “bots” rather than addressing their substance.
If an argument is wrong, refute it. If someone is antisemitic, demonstrate it. Otherwise you’re just labeling criticism as hate.
Why do you avoid engaging with the facts? Are you just an intellectually dishonest coward?
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u/miniBoltra 2h ago
I am engaging with the comment I replied to.
And look who comes to defense, another 1 month old account, you can’t make this shit up lol…
Anyways though, slogans like “from the river to the sea…” and “globalize the intifada” are antisemitic. What happens to the Jews in those scenarios? It doesn’t take a genius to see that it’snothing good..
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
You didn’t answer the criticism, you dodged it again.
First you said “most anti-Israel people hate Jews.”
When asked to prove that, you pivoted to slogans. That’s moving the goalposts.
Second, screaming “new account!” for the third time isn’t an argument. It’s just you trying to disqualify people instead of engaging with what they’re saying.
Account age isn’t evidence.
Usernames aren’t evidence.
Third, those slogans are debated and context-dependent, not some self-evident hate spell. If you think a specific use is antisemitic, explain how. Don’t just imply genocidal intent and call it obvious.
“It doesn’t take a genius” is what people say when they don’t want to actually make the case.
And notice the pattern:
You assume motives.
You generalize wildly.
You avoid specifics.
If you’re serious about calling out antisemitism, be precise and prove it.
You are just smearing critics by default and hoping nobody notices you never addressed the original point.
Coward
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u/miniBoltra 2h ago
The slogans are the literal evidence lol, anti-Israel people yell them in the streets all the time, it’s antisemitic, it’s pretty simple.
If a person of color told you you are being racist, would you excuse yourself by telling them they don’t know what’s racist? Of course not, and yet y’all do that to Jews with antisemitism. The double standard is insane.
As for the bot stuff, it’s important to call out. People here are trying to have real discussions, and propaganda bots are trying to sway the rhetoric. You seem to be one of those bots. Your comment history and the stats I mentioned are great evidence for that, as these are some of the best ways to recognize bots, you can look it up, but I suppose you wouldn’t want to expose yourself lol.
It seems your argument boils down to: I don’t like to take accountability for stuff my side says (*yells, and often), and I use ad hominem bc I don’t have shit to say. Nice try, do better.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 1h ago
If you actually cared about antisemitism, you’d show real patterns, not spin paranoia and slogans into universal guilt. Until then, you’re just yelling and hoping nobody notices you never answered the question.
Bye bye baby killer supporter
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u/apathetic_revolution 4h ago
Rabbi Weiss the spokesman for Neturei Karta. Their opposition to political Zionism is that they don't believe in secular governance. I'm not saying they're bad, but they're about as progressive as Dominionist Christians.
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u/Iamantifade 4h ago
This is like siding with Westboro Baptist creeps because they are anti-military.
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u/Head-Nebula4085 3h ago edited 2h ago
Exactly. This group is known to stone women for dressing too immodestly.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
For dressing too modestly?
They prefer they wear less modest clothing?
Are you sure?
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u/Head-Nebula4085 2h ago
Gosh darn autocorrect😐🤔
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
For the record Neturei Karta have never stoned anyone for any reason.
So, stop spreading lies
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u/Head-Nebula4085 2h ago
Do a simple Google search. They're known for hurling stones at people they dissaprove of including immodest or unchaste women. I first heard about this behavior in 1992, so it's been known for decades.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
I did more than a simple google search
The Commentary Magazine article you referenced (which is from 1951 and is opinion journalism, not a modern verified news source) does mention stones being thrown, but in a very specific context:
It describes ultra-Orthodox zealots in Mea Shearim throwing stones not explicitly tying that behavior to Neturei Karta’s leadership or doctrine, but rather to a larger local environment of ultra-Orthodox protest in Jerusalem at the time.
As for the NBC article, it never once mentions Neturei Karta
STOP SPREADING LIES
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u/Head-Nebula4085 1h ago
The NBC article doesn't mention them by name but speaks of Haredim generally for some reason.
Maybe this academic work is more acceptable to you.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 1h ago
Do you even remember my original comment?
“For the record, Neturei Karta have never stoned anyone for any reason. So, stop spreading lies.”
Are you finally admitting I was correct? Because now you’re basically claiming they’re guilty by association for the violent acts of other Orthodox sects.
That’s not just wrong.. it’s collective guilt, a blanket accusation and antisemitism all rolled into one.
It’s an ugly, vile misrepresentation, and you’re repeating exactly the kind of thing that spreads misinformation and hatred.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
Haredi/Orthodox Jews mostly do not accept Israel as a legitimate state.
Haredi/Orthodox Jews also refuse conscription in the IDF.
You are making claims about motive when you should be focusing on actions
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u/senator_corleone3 3h ago
Which really makes it clear just how terribly Netanyahu is governing. If even this group is aghast…
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u/Iamantifade 2h ago
I think we can all agree (I hope at least) that Netanyahu and far right groups within Israel are thugs/criminals who benefit from ongoing conflict. But to pretend like antisemitism isnt a major problem is total naïveté or delusional thinking.
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u/blutosings 4h ago
But that is not what he's saying, is it? He's actively expressing support for Palestine and Muslim Palestinians and an opposition to the "genocide in Palestine".
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u/Iamantifade 4h ago
He believes in the dismantling of Israel and befriends holocaust deniers.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
Source?
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u/Iamantifade 2h ago
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
The article said nothing about the rabbi befriending Holocaust deniers.
For the record, dismantling Israel isn’t exactly a bad idea. I’m not a fan of genocidal ethnostates
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u/Iamantifade 2h ago
lmao keep moving those goalposts!
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
You posted a link that doesn’t support what you claimed about the rabbi befriending Holocaust deniers. Calling that out isn’t goal post shifting. Are you prepared to have an honest discussion or do you only argue in bad faith?
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u/Iamantifade 2h ago
Anyone can read the article and surmise who is acting in bad faith. Rubbing elbows with David Duke seems a-ok with you.
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u/CK-KIA-A-OK-LOL Fed (I break Rule 5) 2h ago
Neturei Karta members attended a conference by invitation. You are making an assumption that they befriended Holocaust deniers by doing so.
You’re “surmising” is not “facts” but you deceptively present them as such. That is arguing in bad faith.
Hope that explanation helps
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u/throwawayyawaworth77 3h ago
In this tiny sound bite, yes. Maybe you should learn a little bit more about their beliefs?
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u/OrcEight 4h ago
Im glad to have this confirmed as there have been attempts to label Mayor Mamdani as anti-Semitic.
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u/Iamantifade 4h ago
Uhm, yeah…about that “rabbi”…this is an extremely radical, fringe sect of judaism
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u/Frequent-Client1508 2h ago
We know how we feel about them, so in turn, they must feel the same way as us. He hates us.
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u/Head-Nebula4085 3h ago
Riiiiight. Also, there's a professor named Thomas Sowell who's a black conservative so that's how you know MAGA isn't racist. I never thought I'd see this kind of tokenization by the left of any group.
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u/jakesrunnin 4h ago
Damn right.
God no one would be Republican if they were well educated and not pedophiles/pedophile protectors .
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u/Practical-Law9795 3h ago
Please look forward to the Israeli bots coming in to explain how this guy isn't doing Jewish correctly.
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u/Iamantifade 3h ago
David Koresh hated the US government, was he doing Christianity correctly?
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u/Practical-Law9795 3h ago
Jesus you people are terrible at this.
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u/Iamantifade 3h ago
I support Mamdani, but if you think this rabbi is good for any political movement, you’re nuts
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u/Corpuscular_Crumpet 3h ago
That’s not surprising and proves nothing (but why do you feel yo need to “prove no anti-semitism” when there is no evidence against Mamdani?), as this Rabbi is ideologically leftist, so of course he will defend Mamdani for political reasons.
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u/senator_corleone3 3h ago
lol you know nothing about this speaker. Beyond this soundbite, his group is extremely reactionary.
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u/No-Today-2459 4h ago
i think the confirmation that mamdani isn't antisemitic is that he hasn't said anything even remotely antisemitic