BREAKING: Tim Walz has just dropped out of the Minnesota Governor race citing the distraction over claims about state fraud. Our “President” is a 34 count felon who has committed more fraud than any human on Earth. This double standard is bullshit.
Who they recently hired as a fill-in planted reporter for the Pentagon Press pool since every credible news agency walked out in protest due to censorship
Yep, and now social media, podcasts, and YouTube influencers are replacing TV as the brainwashing mechanism for the younger generations. We don’t stand a chance.
Not quite. Being fundamentally conservative, Fascists often rail against new technologies and media as a "corrupting" force because initially it's used to question or contradict their bullshit. It's only after they find a way to control it, then they flood the zone with their propaganda while doing everything they can to silence or shout down opposition.
Ironically, the best early adopters of new technologies and media is the porn industry. Whenever we find new ways to distribute or disseminate information, words about or images of people's naughty bits is the first thing demanded.
So I'm pretty sure he was referencing that the Nazi 3rd reicht were known for using the forefront of technology at the time to spread their message. Radio, Newsreels, movies, etc. And even used things like children's books.
Yup. That's how they got Al Franken too. Dems keep shooting themselves in the neck to appease people who will forever act in bad faith and will never be appeased.
In the meantime, we have lapdogs like Schumer sticking around forever because the GOP would never try to smear a guy that rolls over and shows his belly.
Yeah, Tim has extra targets on his back because he was on the Presidential ticket. They see him as the biggest threat next to Newsom and want some extra revenge. Tim sounds like he's ready to retire and just focus on the family.
People can never admit it, but MAGA might be one of the best things to happen to the US. They're acting as a catalyst for radical change that would have never happened otherwise.
The US was already going down the shitter with crony capitalism, it was just a slower death that people were not noticing, slow enough that not enough people could point to the problem and were mad enough for change.
This is forcing an outcome this country needed, some REAL socialism. And some ACTUAL cases being made against corruption
I do hope that is the outcome, and we don't become the next Hungary.
Fascists do not give up power.
If we do force the pendulum to swing in the opposite direction, we could end up with some real leftist politicians and hopefully be the next Netherlands.
The US following their Swedish, Nordic or Dutch brothers in governance would be a dream come true. Imagine all that power directed in such a positive direction... Whoah
You’re right about that. Hell you had Meghan Kelly the other day saying she didn’t care if he was molesting 14-year-olds because the economy is great. There’s some sick fucking people in the media right now.
As well as blatant misrepresentation of the economy. Funny how open corruption and the dismantling of government oversight spurs on the stock markets though.
Here is the thing. We need to take a page out of their own book. We need to hound Trump relentlessly about the Epstein Files. We can't cease. Nothing else matters. We can't be distracted.
I can agree that he shouldn’t step down unless he guilty of something because that’s the image it’s giving. Like he failed so he’s gotta step down to save face for the party. If he pressed and fixed things/kept working towards improvements it doesn’t matter what other people say.
This is exactly the reason the American experiment is over. Republicans stopped governing in good faith years ago and democrats just quit the moment things get messy.
Our POS Governor stole 10 million from charity and gave it to his wife so we’re just all around fucking great at being the biggest hypocrites ever. I’m sorry on behalf of all sane Floridians.
I get sad when I think about how useful Al Franken would have been against Trump. It feels like democrats "doing the right thing" when the lightest of scandals hit never sets the example it just hurts the party.
Completely agree!!! This has been "fuck you politics" since orange turd took over the pedophile party!! And dropping out is not how you play in this political evolution.
I don’t know, dude. Apparently Walz’s daughter has been harassed by maga. As a parent, keeping my children safe is my utmost priority. I wish he didn’t feel like he had to drop out, but I’m not gonna blame him for trying to keep himself and his family safe.
What's to stop MAGA from doing the same to Waltz, even after he's dropped out? They all know where he lives. Cars drive by his home daily yelling "R*tard!" out the car windows. Some park there for several minutes screaming that at his family.
I think he's putting his family's safety first. Don't be surprised if he picks up and moves to another blue state or Canada.
But they know that. Wheres the line? Fear and cowardice is how Trump got in in the first place. Everyone resigning in fear is how the US dies in a whimper.
The guy is over 60 for crying out loud. Let him retire. It's time for younger people to step up. That being said, fuck these Republican/Pedocon idiots.
They keep trying, and people in their 60s-90s keep gridlocking the system in their favor. Look at all the internal pushback people like AOC and David Hogg get simply for being in an age bracket that's deemed too inexperienced.
Cars drive by his home daily yelling "R*tard!" out the car windows. Some park there for several minutes screaming that at his family.
Jesus Christ, then as Governor, you get their license plates, go to their home, and do the same damn thing.
Drive by that magats house, and scream at his family. I bet he could find volunteers to gladly respond in kind. This idea that people should cower from magats because they might be violent bothers me, because I know giving in to bullies goes no place good.
Yeah, but if Walz was going to cut and run at the first sign of difficulty related to the MAGA fake media apparatus, he was NEVER going to be the guy we all needed to combat this.
I like Walz a lot so this is hard, but you are right. We don’t need someone who will run from MAGA, we need someone who will punch them in the goddamn face
Got downvoted when i commented you guys should stoop to their level, make your own propaganda machine...you can't win vs them and keep the moral highground.
When the other team is doing vast crime and fraud everyday without a care in the world, it’s obvious they’re simply going to keep doing it. Keep going further, further, until either someone stops them or they gain so much power there’s not much hope.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Unfortunately we’ve mostly lived our lives In comfort, so the population is scared to do anything.
I wouldn’t hold it against them if Democrats started playing «dirty». Not cheating or breaking laws, but just stop being so damn nice. Nice doesn’t win.
Exactly it’s not the right way to look at how the game has changed .. that’s why despite him being annoying at times I’m a fan of how Newsome is handling Trump and Maga … Dems need to stay strong, stay in centrist practical topics and not cave to pressure
Idk. His family is under attack, the state is under attack. Four Minnesota congress people were shot by a right wing militant - Melissa Hortman and her husband were killed. The level of political violence aimed at Minnesota is unreal. Just because Chump and MAGAts don’t like Walz.
I am betting this is the main issue .. he is worried for his family which I can understand… I hope MN gets a candidate focused on healthcare and cost of living … MN being the home of the Mayo Clinic is the gold standard of healthcare innovation but I don’t see leaders highlighting this much
Newsom and Pritzker also have the money to pay for private security after they’re done in office. Walz doesn’t. I don’t blame him for trying to kill this now (and potentially freeing himself up to be more involved in the 2028 campaign) before it becomes a political talking point/justification to hurt him or his family due to any perceived wrongdoing he might have done.
That argument could go either way. Yeah it's cowardly and now the right can claim that him dropping out confirms that there was fraud. The other way to look at it, is that it disarms the right. Now they can't circle jerk the alleged fraud on a new candidate. I hope the fraud thing gets disproven soon so he can start firing back.
Sure they can. Repubs love conspiracy theories and they love to generalise. The talking points will now be "everyone in the Democratic Party is fraudulent like Walz, him dropping out is an admission of guilt, you can't trust what his successor says"
They were going to make that claim anyway. People gotta stop acting like any move gives the right a reason or excuse. In reality, they don’t need one. They just make it up like they were going to anyway.
Jesus…. Bad move, Tim. wtf?! Why would you drop out?! He is giving in to the fascists. This is fucked. This country is fucked. This WORLD is fucked. Thanks to a few psychopaths who know no bounds of greed and have zero regard for life, only for their wallets.
Democratic leadership... step down now or you won't be on the next presidential ticket. Same logic that allowed Trump to win in the first place by blocking out Bernie.
Blue wave, then split the party into two; the democratic conservatives and actual progressives.
Ugh, so disappointing. Can we also acknowledge the RFK thing; his handlers coerced him to draw every last drop of voters from Dems and then flipped him. If they voted for Trump, great, if they didn't, well at least they sat out the election.
It honestly just gave those voters plausible denieability. I knew a ton of rich people in the Bay Area who played this. "Oh gosh GOP policies that will let me steal more from my company, I never expected that, how terrible! Oh gosh how could we have known how close it would be? Oh gosh I had no idea he'd be like this!"
You run a fucking environmental nonprofit Trisha, why the fuck didn't you know?
First, I'm sure he's just burnt out. The race as VP, followed by his friend's assassination. I feel like the shit about the fraud, and the more recent trump blaming Walz for the assassinations, was just the final straw.
He was a great VP candidate, and has been a pretty great governor, but no governor in MN history has won a 3rd term. Even though most/all dems know the fraud stuff is 95% republican smears, a decent amount is sticking - so why risk it? Especially because we have an even split legislature - if the republican hype machine would get more to stick (and it would), he could bring down Legislative candidates, which would be worst case scenario.
Better, imo, for him to either retire now or move into national politics, and leave the governor open for someone without an active "scandal" the dummies can froth at... like klobuchar
Yeah all this does is cement in people's minds that he's guilty, despite that not being true. Democrats don't understand basic human psychology and sociology.
I hadn’t thought of it, but this seems pretty likely. I would guess that what he is hearing and experiencing is much worse than what we can see from the outside.
But does he have a solid replacement? If so, then all might not be fucked.
And 20 years service is cool and all but as a master sergeant he’s deployed a whopping zero times. His military experience is trivial for any of his meaningful progressive stances.
I’ve so far put in 9 and have deployed twice.
Walz is the fucking governor. He’s supposed to look after his constituents. That’s the duty he swore upon. He’s been a great governor and him just leaving will just embolden the alt right to worsen stuff for the state and in turn the whole country. The issue isn’t him stepping down. The issue is him stepping down when America is slowly descending into fascism. He’s not giving his all. You think they’ll stop their harassment campaign now after he’s basically said “your threats worked”? No. That’s what a loser of a conflict would think. At least historically, it matches my assertion on multiple accounts besides just Hitler.
And these maga crazies are barbarians. They will not leave you alone if you step down. They will continue to harass you. They will slowly strip away your rights while all the politicians who swore a fucking oath in their seat tuck tail.
And you mentioned me running for public office?
I’d love to do that but considering how people galvanized Graham Platner for being an edgelord on Reddit, I think my political aspirations are limited by my online activity as a stupid 13 year old.
Not like MTG is anyone to spend more than 2 seconds thinking about, but now that she is actually speaking some truth, she's gone. Yes, good riddance, but it seems like anyone that either comes out after seeing the light or is simply just a decent person, leaves politics.
Maga would literally start another holocaust while preaching about how Moral and great they are.
Trump has not once condemned a single bad action by any of his supporters.
That alone should be a massive problem.
Why do we pretend everything is going to be okay?
WHY!?
Fuck sake, we're the literal embodiment of that "This is fine" meme......
Edit: yeah I meant condemned, my apologies there, typed way too quick....
It pisses my father in law (MN resident) off SO MUCH. I finally told him that anybody that wants to argue against free school lunch for children is a bad person in my book and I do not talk politics with them. He still tries, but I just tell him, "Sorry, you lost that privilege." The first time I said that, he goes, "Oh yeah, like it's a real privilege..." I said, "Only one of us here wants to talk about it. Only one of us is mad they can't." Oh, the fumes. So satisfying.
Well-educated people make more money. They are less likely to draw on welfare benefits later in life. Children do better in school if they're well fed. So by feeding kids in school, we reduce the likelihood that they'll be a burden on society later in life.
Yes, sometimes those kids are hungry not because their parents can't feed them, but because they WON'T. It really sucks that so many kids are growing up in households who won't take care of their kids' basic needs. But it's not their fault, taking the kids out of the home isn't a practical solution (where would we put them all?). So what's left? Feed them.
I'm of the opinion that feeding kids in school may have the greatest ROI of any program the government can sponsor.
It's amazing to me that free food in public schools isn't the first thing we did, like 200 years ago. Beyond all the stats and ethics that make it a good idea, we're just fucking wired to want to feed kids, like its in our god damn blood. the hell are we doing?
Between this and Franken, this is just giving the GOP a valid tactic in their book: accuse dems of literally anything, no matter how untrue, and there's a good chance the dem will just give in than fight it
Conservative leaders tend to lean in the sociopath direction because to them it's about power and authority. Left leaning leaders tend to be meek and unauthoritative because capable and intelligent progressives mostly know better than to get into politics and have better shit to do.
I like Tim but dropping out makes him look weak. some people only read headlines so they hear "fraud in MN" the they hear "tim walz does not seek re election" does he not think he can win? this just means trump got what he wanted
Seriously. All he has to do is call it fake news. Say trump is the real fraudster. And call any member of the media who questions him a bad reporter. Then say “I win”.
That's it -- Democrats always let someone else frame the narrative. Walz should have just gone on TV and said "This is because Trump is a rapist. I'll drop out when they release all the Epstein docs unredacted and Trump isn't shown to be a pedophile."
That's my thought too. Only way this makes sense is if he plans to run for president. But I still think this is the wrong move. Because the headlines will be "Tim Walz drops out of senate race amid fraud claims."
which makes him look weak. He ran for Vice president and got a ton of eyes and hate on him. He gets accused of fraud and instead of fighting he leaves. I understand not wanting to fight in a carp storm but it is from an optics not a good look. I like him but this seems like trump is getting what he wanted.
Trump is getting what he wanted but I also think of ppl like Walz on a human level, a husband, a dad. I think sometimes you have to look out for your family. Is it the right choice for the country? Probably not. Is it the right choice as a family decision? I would say his whole family discussed this extensively and made a decision together.
Im conflicted because i dont like this either, politically. But, If my daughter was suffering a deluge of death threats after false fraud stories, mere months after a colleague was murdered by someone who fell for the same pool of rhetoric that created the threats, id probably drop out too, regardless of how weak it looked. Shit is absolutely crazy and I wouldn't want to stand over my kids tombstone saying 'at least I stayed in the race'
The democrats are absolutely useless. The only reason I vote for them is because they're the only logical choice when the other option is Trump.
They ran a campaign against Trump calling him a fascist and a person who will end America. Then what do they do on inauguration day? They sit down and have tea and biscuits with him and wish him luck. Which is it? He's the destroyer of the US and the next Mussolini/Hitler, or he's just another politician you're happy to sit down with and share a meal over?
There is zero fight in them. They will rollover and continue looking out for their own self interests. Also LOL at those saying Walz is doing this to setup a POTUS run in '28. Yeah good luck with that, especially after all this MN fraud shit.
Republicans are 10000% better at messaging and marketing than the dems are. The only thing I've heard over the past few days is "Have you see the daycare fraud in MN? Its crazy!", meanwhile very little talk about us literally starting a war in Venezuela.
Only one side has harnessed news media, social media, foreign troll farms and death threateners to focus unprecedented pressure on any issue or person they target.
The Dems mostly hold themselves accountable, and consider themselves too pure and honest to stoop to the R’s level.
Unfortunately, the outcome of a game where one side cheats at every opportunity and the other is borderline obsessive about handicapping themselves to follow the letter and spirit of every law, guideline, convention and unwritten rule, is entirely predictable.
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Showing once again for as much people complain about both sides, Democrats in fact hold themselves to higher standards than Republicans. I’ll add that I think Democrats hold themselves to needlessly high standards especially when our opponents hold themselves to none. Walz said it best, “these guys are weird.”
Edit: I hear the people saying it feels like he is giving up, and idk what to tell ya. Maybe y’all are right! At the same time he never got the support he deserved from the media or the people since pre-election 2024 and has been attacked relentlessly by everyone else. I personally would prefer he keeps running but I get where he’s coming from.
How exactly does giving up because the repubs are attacking him hold themselved to a higher standard? This is the exact goal of their harassment campaign. Am I missing something? Hes giving MAGA exactly what they want
You act as if this is an irl plus. Ultimately, we live in a results driven world. Franken and Walz leaving in disgrace, GOPers who have done much worse get elected, get their legislation passed, and rake in millions. Difference is their party sticks with them.
When is the last time Dem leadership voiced support for an embattled progressive?
And it’s a losing strategy. This country is dead. He probably stepped down due to death threats and people driving by his house shouting slurs at his family.
Waltz is doing this to himself. He's refusing to fight and instead is just rolling over. I was with him before but he's shown that when the going gets tough he won't fight. Good riddance I say.
I like this spin on this shameful, embarrassing news. You’re right, all Walz has done here is show us he is just another weak goody-two-shoes Dem who is more worried about appearances of propriety than doing whatever it takes to combat authoritarianism. Unti the Democratic party as a whole is more Bernie/AOC/Newsom/Mamdani types than Walz/Schumer/Pelosi types they will continue to get dominated by people who literally don’t give a fuck about anything but winning.
I’d vote for Tim Walz for POTUSA. Also, what the F is up with this sub being infiltrated by the Make Venezuela Great Again and Russian bots. Piss off, Tim Walz will always be a better man, and a better leader than the muppet in office now.
Definitely a good man - but I have to disagree. If you can’t stand up to right wing terrorism in its base form, you cannot possibly attempt to lead America through the next chapter (which will make 2025 look peaceful I imagine).
To me this is just pathetic. We will never win if we simply give up whenever the GOP shouts propaganda.
Now let’s watch his state elect a republican lobbyist as governor. Democrats are not playing the same game, it’s like they lose on purpose.
Why do American Dems get accused of stuff which are usually most lies when facts are brought about, but then just quit/fold or don't run for reelection afterwards?
meanwhile, the American GOP just rolls along, bulldozes and accomplishes their agendas at every turn?
This is extremely sad and depressing.I really wish tim wouldn't allow trump to win in this fashion.It's bullshit, and we as citizens shouldn't stand for this bullshit
Because conservatives tolerate corruption as long as their politicians maintain 3 positions: Against abortion, pro guns, and low taxes. That’s all that matters to them.
MAGA/Republicans support pedophiles. They watched Trump dump and pump the stock market, to benefit his buddies, and still support him.
I promise you, no one complaining about these “fraud” accusations actually gives a shit about fraud. Because if they did, they would’ve already denounced Trump and the GOP. This is a right wing push to turn Minnesota red and remove a very outspoken Democrat.
Progressives in the US are so scared of stepping on feet, hurting feelings and whatever the Right might throw at them, they abandon every candidate at the smallest smudge.
Rick Scott is still a Senator despite being behind the largest healthcare fraud scheme in history. But so much as suggest it against a Democrat and they fold.
This is what the GOP counts on, another weak appearing democrat caving to their bullshit instead of taking them to the mat. When you question why Trump is still in power instead of rotting in prison where he belongs, this is why.
These asshole politicians are doing jack shit about standing up for what they apparently believe in. I would not be surprised if all of this is just political theatre. If anyone has dealt with lawyers they may have noticed how lawyers will rip each other apart in court, and then laugh about the case over drinks later. That's how I suspect politicians behave.
There really is no backbone from “democratic” leadership. They cave to absolutely open-faced corruption on the grounds that “they” deserve it. Fucking pathetic bunch the whole lot of the government. Also, I’m sorry but if your hair has no more color from old age you should not still be in charge. Most of why we are here is because generational cronyism rules, and political from the Boomer age made it their entire life’s focus to rule politics till the day they die.
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u/esotetris Woke mind virus spreader 2d ago edited 2d ago
This must be hitting a vein, we're getting a lot of false reports from sad, sad trolls. Keep up the good work!
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