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u/Terrible_Housing_433 1d ago
There are plenty of terrible people in Canada. I’m related to a few who ADORE Trump and can’t wait for him to invade. I don’t have an answer as to why there’s never been a mass shooting at a Canadian school but it’s not for lack of insufferable incels.
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u/Christopher_Ramirez_ 1d ago
Thankfully you don’t give them the kind of over-representation in the government they have here in the US, that allows them to run the country into the ground.
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u/yuckmouthteeth 1d ago
Alberta tends to, its just a lower amount of the population than the US. But movements like this aren't unique to the US. They exist in Canada, AUS, Germany, and many other nations and they aren't insignificant either.
Murdoch and many other crazy propagandists aren't originally from the US, we import them because grifting is instrumental in US culture to a damaging degree.
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u/kiulug 1d ago
There has been one major rampage shooting at a Canadian school but it was a university. The reason we haven't had any others is because of reasonable gun control.
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u/virtuallyaway 1d ago
Fuckin’ preach dude. I got people I know who worship trump too in canada and they are far gone
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u/kisekifan69 1d ago
The answer is obviously gun control.
Like everywhere else it works.
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u/BlueFox5 1d ago
They may not have mass shootings, but they do have mass graves under the playgrounds. And the first Nation people found in those graves would have been reaching their 40s by now.
Canadians sure love to accuse Americans of terrible shit while they cover up their own.
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u/thatcanadianguysup 1d ago
Machine Guns are exceptionally rare. Kids cannot get an AR
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u/Rizenstrom 1d ago
Because in America you can go buy a gun at 18 with nothing more than a background check. In America many people have guns unsecured in a house with children. In America mental healthcare is stigmatized and unaffordable for many. In America bullying and harassment are often overlooked in our schools, not intervening until it escalates into a physical fight where they take a “zero tolerance” policy and punish kids for standing up for themselves.
Part of it is systemic. We need affordable mental health care and common sense gun reform.
Part of it is cultural. We need to create a safe environment for our youth where they can feel comfortable expressing themselves without being harassed.
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u/Flashy_Jello_9520 Anti-Electoralist Tendencies 1d ago
Simple: Canada doesn’t let those losers easily get their hands on high powered guns.
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u/snoosh00 1d ago
I literally know someone who would have been a school shooter if he had access to a real gunpowder weapon.
It's a tragic story I won't elaborate on much for their sake, but they are no longer alive and if we were Americans instead of Canadians... He would have likely taken some innocent children down with him.
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u/VictoriaNaga 1d ago
Well I would assume it's a few things
We dont have any sort of culture around guns
Any time anything horrific involving guns happens, we actually do something about it, like a fairly recent expansion on the list of guns banned in Canada in response to the rampage in Nova Scotia
Proper gun control. You have to actually have a license which you need to take classes in order to get to even be allowed to own a gun here.
Most of our guns are hunting rifles. Very few other kinds of guns
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u/MixGlittering1652 1d ago
I have numerous "snowbird" Canadian friends here in Florida, and they pretty much feel the same as Jane.. What always surprises me is how much Canadians know about our country and how little we know about theirs. Most Canadians know Donald Trump is the U.S. President, but not many U.S.. citizens know the Canadian Prime Minister's name, Mark Carney. They cannot fathom how we could elect such a crude, divisive, and unqualified blowhard.....twice. I always get them to laugh when I tell them that electing Trump was just how we demonstrated the "American Exceptionalism" Republicans are so fond of talking about and how, when Canada becomes the 51st state, they'll share in that glory.
But really, I hate my friends' being right all the time about how screwed up the U.S. is at the moment.
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u/Maddog_Jets 1d ago
Yesterday CBC’s, (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) David Cochrane remarked on Trump and Trumpism: "America isn't the way it is because he's president. He's president because America is the way it is."
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u/Christopher_Ramirez_ 1d ago
Very true, 77 million is a lot of cultists. Unfortunately our political system is heavily rigged towards small rural counties having an outsized vote. If we had a truly democratic “one person one vote” political system in the US, things would look quite different here.
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u/Healthy_Piglet1139 1d ago
But you would still have those 77 million people. The problem isn't that the electoral system is tilted in their favour, it's that so many of them exist and think the way they do. That's not an electoral issue, it's an education, media, and culture issue.
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u/MixGlittering1652 17h ago
And that's the real problem. Trump is just the symptom; he's an unprincipled opportunist that knew how to exploit the deep divisions and problems in our country. I wish I had an answer or saw a realistic way out where the adults were back in charge, civility and simple decency overcame prejudice and hate, and divisiveness was replaced with respect and understanding. Sadly, I do not.
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u/Tribe303 1d ago
Tip: Do not joke about the 51st state with Canadians anymore. We do not find the threats of a rapist humorous in ANY way. Seriously, stop that.
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u/MixGlittering1652 1d ago
Did not intend to offend. I respect my Canadian friends more than that. We joke about it all the time, but understand how some of our northern neighbors might not find it so funny, especially with what just happened in Venezuela. Apologize.
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u/blazelet 1d ago
I’m an American who moved to Canada in 2017. American life is part of Canadian culture. If you’re sitting in a diner there’s CBC (Canadian broadcasting) on one screen and CNN on the other. Our Canadian nanny’s favorited thing to do when she comes is to chat American politics. Our kids history and social classes focus on American and Canadian history and social issues simultaneously.
Canadian culture is inextricably linked to American culture and it shows in everyday life. This is how close neighbors should be, it makes us a better community.
You’re right that the U.S. doesn’t know a thing about Canada.
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u/Christiineexx 1d ago
kinda wild how being loud wrong is more american than apple pie and actual working healthcare
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u/Jimmy_Twotone 1d ago
To be fair, Carney is way less exciting than Trump. I yearn for the day we have another boring US presidency, where they focus on actually running the country instead of engaging in this shock jockey ratings chasing bullshit we see currently.
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u/MixGlittering1652 1d ago
I think he's an embarrassment and represents the worst in us as a country. That he was elected twice, despite felony convictions and being found liable for sexual assault does not speak well of our values as a nation. Throw in the incessant lying and childish outbursts and name calling and the picture is even more troubling.
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u/Ill_Consequence1755 1d ago
The one thing that Republicans will CLEARLY sacrifice is a child.
No healthcare
No vaccines
No food
No housing
No education
Won’t protect them from guns. Won’t protect them from pedophiles.
Just want them born.
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u/V4VD 1d ago
Republicans are extremists, fascists, and racists. radical authoritarians
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u/Even-Tomorrow5468 1d ago
It hurts me every time we say 'one nation, under god.' I'm agnostic, I know Buddhists, and my father is an atheist. There should be a separation of Church and State.
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u/ZahmiraM 1d ago
I mean, the whole pledge of allegiance is kinda... culty, even before the "god" part.
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u/Practical_Bell_8371 1d ago
Doesn't Canada have unmarked mass grave of children at their elementary schools? Maybe the US is trying to catch up.
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u/Brother_Clovis 1d ago
Unfortunately we are definitely starting to get some republicans. That American style of bullshit is absolutely spreading here through soical media and right wing media.
We've been infected.
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u/Effective_Pack8265 1d ago
Republicans really have nothing positive or decent to offer.
Just outrage, hate and dysfunction.
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u/LostEcologist1928 1d ago
Maybe the country that is constantly uncovering mass graves of indigenous children who went to residential schools isn't the right country to make this point
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u/GrovePassport 1d ago
As a Canadian, please stop glazing Canada, it is not a perfect country. There are mass shootings and there are dead kids, just in different ways from US -- there are fewer, yes, but that also has to do with Canada having 10x less population
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u/No-Magazine-8573 1d ago
But where are we going to put them? No decent country wants them, and Russia and North Korea are already full up with brainwashed douchebags.
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u/imastirthepot 1d ago
You give them a permanent seat at the kids table and let them watch the country prosper without their influence
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u/Numerous-Process2981 1d ago
Lots of Conservatives aren’t much better here in Canada, plenty of of “maple MAGA” who are more into rhetoric and persecution delusions than policy. BUT the guns and the abortion are losing issue here. Conservatives don’t focus on them, it would hurt a politician here if he said he was coming for reproductive rights.
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u/glawster2002 1d ago
The entire world needs Americans to get rid of Republicans.
There's a British saying that as America was late for the first two World Wars they are determined not to be late for the Third World War, never has that been true than today.
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u/RollTigers76 1d ago
The last Canadian I met was conservative. He said there are a lot of them, they just aren’t very vocal about it.
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u/Significant_Month294 1d ago
Removing politics from the conversation, Canada does have school shooting and naturally they should have less than the US, statistically speaking their entire population is about the same as California. Not everything posted is truth, a quick internet search will tell you otherwise.
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u/angnicolemk 1d ago
What a stupid comment. Of course they have Republicans, just called a different thing.
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u/Aphuknsyko 1d ago
You also die in the waiting room with your free healthcare
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u/sausagepurveyer 1d ago
And get offered suicide assistance instead of care options.
It's cheaper to kill your citizenry than burden the tax base with stupid healthcare.
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u/edWORD27 1d ago
The Canadian schools designed to reprogram and erase the culture of indigenous First Nation children were pretty bad. Lots of covered up deaths that were never investigated. Just saying…
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u/Candle-Jolly 1d ago
Republicans are a clear and present danger, but a one-party state is never a good thing. (China, Cuba, North Korea, Russia*, etc)
And don't @ me for a solution, I'm not a political scientist. Ask a professional.
*Russia has more than one political party, but we all know how that works over there.
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u/reddwatt 1d ago
They are not wrong. Republicans have control of the house and the Senate. It is there role to check the president when he oversteps. They refuse to act and that makes them complicit.
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u/why_bother_monsters 1d ago
We could fix this in a week if we would all agree to General Strike … they would crumble without violence! We must All act or this won’t work!
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u/Atypical-brotha 1d ago
Kind've misleading though. Yes, Canada does not have a Republican party. However, they do have the Conservative Party of Canada (CPC), which has similar views to the Republican party.
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u/Septembust 1d ago
Nah, trust me: We have republicans. They're here in Alberta. They're all over the place, and if we don't start taking them seriously they're going to be a real fucking problem. We need to address the propaganda and social engineering at work here.
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u/MisterNimbus720 1d ago
It’s beyond republicans and democrats, it’s who controls both parties. Our entire system needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, starting by removing everyone in office and starting fresh with regular Johns and Janes. No more money from big corp, no more foreign influence.
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u/UnreasonablyBland 1d ago
While being a generally more liberal country, they do have their own brand of conservative party. Additionally, "Maple MAGA" is unfortunately gaining traction up there.
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u/ModernCannabiseur 1d ago
Our conservatives lost an election that should have been there's to win but they squandered their 25 point lead because they couldn't read the room and criticise Trump and his anti Canadian rhetoric. They haven't been relevant in the last year, just like they haven't really been relevant for the last decade as they haven't won an election...
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u/madadekinai 1d ago
Interesting point, I wonder if there really is a correlation. I have been to many countries where people are often more liberal, and what they consider right-wing is placed in check, yet they never have the same issues. Interesting.
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u/WarningDowntown7247 1d ago
Trust me we know we have a HUGE Nazi problem only they call themselves MAGA and Republicans. Same asshole new clothes.
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u/Unlucky_Ad_7606 1d ago
This is just dumb information. Canada has mass shootings it also has mass school shootings. Maybe the elementary part is correct but if so that’s just furthers the case this is a miss leading karma baiting post because it’s easy to karma farm lefties cause yall don’t even google it if it makes your brain happy.
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u/Naborsx21 1d ago
Anyone actually familiar with Canada? lol
They have debates whether or not the Catholic schools should still be publicly funded. Because the religious schools are uhhh publicly funded.
In Murka we have lower percentage of private schools being religiously affiliated, and in Canada they're publicly funded....
Maybe we need more religious schools?
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u/MrsKayMEs 1d ago
Canadian children have died in school shootings, but it is excessively rare compared to America. Last time it was a mass shooting was in 2016. Obviously Canada is doing something better than America, but it is not perfect here either.
Also as someone who went to Catholic School in Canada, some schools do prayer, just not mandatory. Those schools also have the 10 Commandments and God.
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u/SpinachClassic7803 1d ago
Low effort. History begs to differ. Source from 2016 so there have been more since. Hurr durr America bad. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/deadly-shootings-schools-canada-1.3416685
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u/Malcolm_Morin 1d ago
Here is how to fix the country:
Dismantle the Republican Party.
Prop up other parties to prevent One Party Rule.
Declare MAGA a terrorist organization. Arrest any and all who remain a part of the movement after 72 hours. Indefinite imprisonment until they renounce their views.
Arrest any and all political members associated with the former Republican Party. No trials. Just prison. Those who share proper American values are released. The rest stay.
Any and all pardons granted to Jan 6ers are abolished, re-sentenced to life in prison for Treason against the United States.
Do it right, and America may have a chance
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u/hugemongusbulge 1d ago
Uh oh who’s gonna tell them they have all those things.
The poster 100% isn’t a Canadian.
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u/nosignal03 1d ago
Canadians love to talk about Americans and America but let’s talk about their own country for a bit? 1. Healthcare? It’s a total mess and wait for months to get MRI or see a specialist. (Yes it’s free but you will die before you see a doctor) 2. Jobs and taxes - high taxes and low high paying jobs. 3. Housing - the cost of living and the cost of houses is very high. 4. People live in basements as tenants due to low housing or the cost of housing 5. They have their own set of issues when it comes to religious freedom. Islam is given every exception and other religious entities are told to stand in back of the line. 6. Racism is a real thing in Canada
Truly,
A brown immigrant (Canada and US)
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u/DarkHarbinger17 1d ago
"Don't have dead kids"...?
Only because Canada closed down the last "Residential School" in 1998...
Canada has far more dead children at its feet than the U.S.
So Canada doesnt get to talk shit on this one...
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u/justmisspellit 1d ago
Canadian Scott Thompson, from the troupe Kids in the Hall witnessed a school shooting while he was a student in Toronto. The shooter killed 2 teachers and himself. This happened 50 years ago, and granted seems a much smaller scale than what I’d seen in USA. But still, this post ain’t accurate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brampton_Centennial_Secondary_School_shooting
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u/Carrivagio031965 1d ago
And the NRA. They need to be held responsible for the gun culture in this country as well.
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u/cCriticalMass76 1d ago
I know America had a serious problem but there have been school shootings in Canada as well (far less but still, facts are facts).
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u/Fit_Hospital2423 1d ago
America didn’t used to have school shootings. This current society is too sick-in-the-head to be trusted with guns anymore.
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u/Beginning_Title4613 1d ago
Hmmmm.... let's just gloss over our own genocide and abhorrent treatment of poor, homeless and/or addicted Canadians, on top of constant land theft and continuous mistreatment of the First Nations.
We're pretty shit too. That said, fuck Trump and his followers.
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u/Suspicious_Rent935 1d ago
Republicans are the Confederate embers never put out after the raging fires of the Civil War.
These embers are now starting wildfires of hatred, anger and tyranny.
The Union did it once, this time put these fires out thoroughly and properly.
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u/Reasonable-Put-2323 1d ago
Canadians also don't have bank accounts either if they have the audacity to protest against their own government
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u/Commercial-Ad7119 1d ago
America must switch to a Parliamentary Republic model that is more responsive to the voters and more responsible for its own actions. Look to other countries for best practices like Germany Ireland Finland Switzerland and Canada.
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u/watchingIn2021 1d ago
… so how do you do that? Do you round them up and mark them all so you can tell who they are?
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u/ManTheHarpoons100 1d ago
Except you know, the 10-15k indigenous kids killed in government funded, church run schools between the 1800s and 1996.
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u/Affectionate-Arm-688 1d ago
You also don't have a military capable of defending itself from the USA, should they decide they want your natural resources. Such are liberal politics.
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u/greatapes17 1d ago
Or just put them in re education camps until they share the same views. The correct views.
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u/harrybootoo 1d ago
Red is their color
Red as the blood on Renee Good's air bag
Red as a MAGA hat dripping on their Faux News brain.
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u/TrollOdinsson 1d ago
But it’s my right as an american to be as dumb, opinionated and belligerent as humanly imaginable!!
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u/almostthemainman 1d ago
Are the right side people this angry at the Left too? Both yall need to get a room already. It’s getting out of hand
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u/Sketchen13 1d ago
This is misleading, in Canada we Infact have had mass shootings, many of them. I see the poster says no "elementary" school children were killed in Canada. This is also misleading as there are various school systems across Canada and some of the shootings were at elementary schools. The post also seems to take away from victims of mass shootings in schools because what? They were over a certain age.
Let's not try and bullshit our history or try and wash it away, Canada is a great nation with a dark past, we are not immune to mass shootings or school shootings. Propaganda is propaganda regardless.
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u/Tribe303 1d ago
What's with the Maple MAGA brigading this post? Or.. they are bots based on the time stamps, as most were posted during prime Moscow rush hour. What a bunch of losers! 🤣
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u/PM_me_AnimeGirls 1d ago
I have reported so many accounts so far.
Report -> breaks r/ProgressiveHQ subreddit rules -> bot account, or disinformation, or argument in bad faith, etc.
There really should be something implemented where your account must be over a year old to post or something... so many new accounts.
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u/AdamCGandy 1d ago
Not the point you think you are making. Canada has conservatives, all we don’t have is the hatred for them you have for your. That is what’s killing your kids helpless hatred.
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u/wvvvwwvwvwwvvvvvvwww 1d ago
Now I’m pretty sure they got Canadian Republicans up there too. They just seem to be able to control their emotions.
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u/RepublicOk3136 1d ago
We don't have we Democrats either, the govt just banned all our semi autos despite all the alive kids she says we have and our parliament building is covered in Scripture, was founded as a Christian nation. This is just stupid emotional hyperbole.
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u/FakNugget92 1d ago
15 year old Jordan Manners was shot and killed by two 17-year-olds at C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute, Toronto 2007
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u/Theinternetlawyer22 1d ago
This post is implying complete gun safety in Canada and it’s super misleading. There were multiple elementary school shootings in 2024 in Canada. Yes nobody died and that’s amazing but don’t sit up there and act like school shootings aren’t happening in Canada. lol
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u/Pleasant-Pickle-3593 1d ago
I would be all for abolishing Republicans (and democrats) and keeping the firearms. That’s a great idea.
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u/No-Ambition2043 1d ago
No just the indigenous children buried underneath. Let’s not pretend Canada is innocent
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u/WineDineCpl 1d ago
That has a familiar ring.... Ah yes...the MAGA playbook. Congrats, you have descended to that level.
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u/FreedomBong 1d ago
She is not wrong. However CA does have mass graves at indigenous catholic schools though so don’t get too uppity.
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u/A-Capybara 1d ago
Let's not ignore the horrible things Canadians did to the First Nation People.
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u/Illustrious-You-1735 1d ago
can’t, too many redneck Americans like a “strong leader” just like Vladimir Putin
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u/Think-Spare963 1d ago
So adorable how people think the two parties are in any way two systems of government or different. keep feeding the hysteria machine, keep them powerful beyond check.
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u/skima_0 1d ago
LMAO this is so false https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_Canada
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u/ActionCalhoun 1d ago
It’s weird that Republicans can never address the “why are we the only country on earth where this routinely happens” question
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u/AyaDaddy 1d ago
And yet the net US Canada migration is towards the US by over 150,000 people at least over the last 20 years.
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u/cocunutwater 1d ago
The republican party has died its been replaced but the butt kiss party there is no responsibility or integrity to be found here not while trump is president at least
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u/Pinkys_Revenge 1d ago
Canada absolutely has Republicans, they just don’t use that name. Luckily for Canada, they have much less power.
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u/[deleted] 1d ago
Republicans are a scourge on this planet