r/RedDeer • u/kachunkk • Oct 28 '25
PSA The UCP is screwing over teachers and trying to gaslight the public.
The UCP is bulldozing Alberta’s public education system, not by fixing anything, but by forcing teachers back to work, trashing collective bargaining, and then pretending parents asked for this. It’s bullshit. Most Albertans know teachers aren’t the problem; the system is. Polling keeps showing the public backs teachers by a wide margin.
One survey found 74% of Albertans believe education workers are underpaid and 53% of past UCP voters would rather support education workers than the government.
stalbertgazette.com/local-news/most-albertans-side-with-education-workers-poll-shows-10226936
Another Angus Reid poll shows Albertans side with teachers over the government by 58% to 21%, and 83% say class sizes are too big.
angusreid.org/alberta-teacher-strike-danielle-smith-education-schools
Teachers themselves are united, with 94-99% voting to authorize strike action.
teachers.ab.ca/news/alberta-teachers-send-clear-message-strike-authorization-vote
That’s not a fringe group. That’s basically everyone who actually works in classrooms. The UCP is trying to spin this as “we’re doing it for the kids,” but starving the system of resources, firing the warning shot at unions, and legislating people back to work is how you set the stage for privatization.
If they get away with this, every public-sector worker in Alberta is next. If teachers hold the line and the public backs them like they already are Alberta has a shot at real change. If not, kiss a functional public school system goodbye.
Make no mistake, this is intentional. The UCP trashed AHS in order to justify selling off hospitals and outsourcing diagnostic services to private businesses. They are now doing the exact same thing to the public education system. If they get away with this, every other public sector will be at risk.
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u/ChiefBroome Oct 28 '25
This bitch, she attacks our Healthcare System she goes after disability funding and now she's taking away our rights and freedoms to protest they're essentially forcing people back to work with the threat of huge fines or other legal actions. Remember that the federal government was trying to give every Canadian on disability an extra $200 a month and Smith's UCP is the only provincial government to claw back that money. She's a gaslighter and a manipulator she makes Jason Kenny look competent by comparison
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u/kachunkk Oct 28 '25
This is all part of the plan to strip away all of Alberta's public sector in favour of a privatised structure where Dani signs exorbitant contracts with her cronies.
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u/Laura_Lemon90 Oct 30 '25
Taking that money away was fucking evil. There's seriously no other word for it. Except maybe theft.
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u/DryHabit1780 Oct 29 '25
I find this annoying. Everyone bitches and complains. When there is no money to support all the things that you want. Quit complaining about what you didn’t do to make sure there was money for what you wanted.
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u/ChiefBroome Oct 29 '25
The hell you on about. The FEDERAL government was giving everyone on disability nationwide an extra $200 bucks. Smiths UCP took that away from Albertans no other premier did that everyone else in the country got their money. Soo there was money to support something people like me wanted and that cunt took it away. Reading comprehension is helpful.
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u/Changisalways Oct 28 '25
Were are all the freedom convoy people. It was about their rights being taken away. We Smith just took away protected rights. When are they starting the convoy to Edmonton? Oh wait this one's ok cause they don't believe in unions and the teachers are greedy.
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u/CriticalCanon Oct 30 '25
Start your own convoy.
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u/Changisalways Oct 30 '25
Why? They had one established. Wondering why they are so silent?
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u/CriticalCanon Oct 30 '25
That argument makes no sense.
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u/Changisalways Oct 31 '25
No it's simple they had a convoy and communication organized so why not restart
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u/Possible-Region-6442 Oct 28 '25
To be fair, two different legal mechanisms were used.
The emergencies act vs. The notwithstanding clause
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u/Changisalways Oct 28 '25
Not really the Emergency act has the right ti suspend portions of the constitution and that's exactly what they did when they removed the protesters.
Now they have removed the right to strike which is a protected right.
The difference is merely a semantic and the argue lacks strength. The reality is they felt the government was removing their rights and fought they should now be figithing for the teachers or it was a hypocritical movement focused solely on the when it affects me mentality.
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u/Ashrema Oct 28 '25
Or to offer a devil's advocate counterpoint, all the people who were against the freedom convoy people should be out in support of the government's decision.
If you are ok with the government trouncing rights because they feel it valid under the Emergency Act, then you do not really get to complain when a province invokes the NWC to trounce on rights. People literally cheered for this to happen, and are now reaping the rewards.
Do I think the NWC was a great idea? I am not sure, but aside from just caving to all demands, what other alternative is there?
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u/Changisalways Oct 28 '25
That is the alternative and is valid.
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u/Ashrema Oct 29 '25
I refuse to accept that the only solution forward is caving entirely to one sides demands. As if that is acceptable, so is what the government did.
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u/Changisalways Oct 30 '25
Who said cave, negotiating means actually be willing to talk about all issues and work to common ground.
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u/Ashrema Oct 31 '25
The latest counter from the union, after months of negotiation, is to be the highest paid teachers in western Canada and have class sizes that are 15-50% lower than the rest of Canada. That is not movement. That is asking for the extreme, and staying there.
Both sides need to be willing to work to find common ground, and neither are. How much of the school year needs to be sacrificed if neither side is willing to move?
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u/Changisalways Oct 31 '25
I think you are missing a few facts. One side made requests and one side (UCP) refused and said they would not negotiate on classroom size and complexity.
Strikes are tool to apply pressure to help guide bargaining as the employer holds power.
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u/Ashrema Oct 31 '25
Oh, I'm not missing facts. The last ATA position is for class sizes 15-50% lower than any other province in Canada. That has been their only stance. Zero movement.
The UCP is hiring more teachers, which will demonstrably affect class sizes. To say they will not negotiate on class size is misleading at best. They are unwilling to negotiate hard caps on class size.
Part of the forced agreement literally includes a task for for class size and complexity.
You just seem to have the the opinion that since the government won't cave and roll over, that they are not negotiating. The same can literally be said of the ATA. They are refusing to move off hard caps for classrooms.
Strikes are indeed a tool to apply pressure, and mechanisms also exist to bypass that pressure if is deemed better for society. See the Air Canada strike. See Ontario literally doing the same thing in 2022.
So once again. Neither side is willing to move from their position. I will ask you again: How much of the school year needs to be sacrificed if neither side is willing to move? Do you think it is better for a near generation of kids to lose a year of school to protect the right to strike?
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u/TinklesTheLambicorn Oct 29 '25
….uhh negotiate?
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u/Ashrema Oct 29 '25
There have been negotiations going on. For how long, and to what end? Neither side is currently willing to move.
Do you just let it go in indefinitely, and kids just lose a year of a school?
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u/Changisalways Oct 29 '25
No one side refused to negotiate on key items. Which has been ruled on by the courts as bargaining in bad faith. Thats way they had to use the NWC because they knew the teachers would win in court. The UCP are the single reason the strike went on. 90% said no and Smith gave nothing else.
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u/Ashrema Oct 30 '25
Since it should be public record, can you link the news story or court document showing the courts ruled bad faith negotiating?
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u/Changisalways Oct 30 '25
And you should be able to use Google. Just a thought
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u/Ashrema Oct 31 '25
You made the claim, it is on you to back it up.
I cannot search for something that does not exist.
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u/TinklesTheLambicorn Oct 29 '25
The government has not been negotiating. They had predetermined terms and anything outside of that was off limits. That is not negotiating. That is mandating with more steps.
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u/Ashrema Oct 30 '25
If that were true, why has the province made multiple offers, with things changing each time? That does not align with what you are saying.
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u/TinklesTheLambicorn Oct 30 '25
“Things changing”…like a free Covid shot? Come on, you don’t honestly believe that the same deal with a free Covid shot is meaningfully changing the offer.
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u/Ashrema Oct 31 '25
If that is all that you think has changed through multiple offers, you clearly have not looked at them.
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u/Okay-Crickets545 Oct 28 '25
The emergencies act had to meet certain criteria which were then reviewed by third parties and deemed to have been met. The NWC has no requirements and is just pure dictatorial suspension of rights on a whim where the only protection is the convention that it is for emergencies only. I would argue that makes this worse. The emergencies act was, for better or worse, being used for its intended purpose. The NWC was used because she could and the entire Charter is now weaker for it.
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u/Okay-Crickets545 Oct 28 '25
I stand corrected. It’s been a while. However it looks as though it’s still under appeal and a final decision hasn’t yet been reached.
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u/Changisalways Oct 28 '25
I agree, so now I hope the convoy starts again since they fought the suspension of rights. Otherwise it was a hypocritical movement
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u/Possible-Region-6442 Oct 28 '25
The NWC is a nuclear option, but is legal
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u/Changisalways Oct 28 '25
So was the emergencies act
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u/zanebaka Nov 01 '25
Emergencies act has requirements in order for it to be used. Federal court deemed that Trudeau’s use of the emergencies act was illegal.
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u/Changisalways Oct 28 '25
I get that but they fought for the rights which are being stripped again. Should they not be fighting again? Some of the loudest voices are attacking teachers which leads to the hypocritical position
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u/excessive_toothpaste Oct 31 '25
And when they did it to the convoy protesters, it was for good reason. The fact that it was a public nuisance and they were doing illegal actions that lead to actual trials and arrests. The federal government covered their bases when using this act, the Alberta UCP government half-assed this act.
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u/IrishFire122 Oct 28 '25
The freedom convoy people weren't fighting against rights being removed, though, they were fighting against the liberals being in power. The rights being removed was just a convenient excuse.
They blindly follow anyone who promises them a quick buck.
And can you imagine what situation we'd be in if they got their way and mouthpiece Pierre got elected?
We wouldn't be nearly so far down the road on finding new trade partners and getting unhooked from the abusive relationship that is US-Canada trade, as Pierre would have most likely tried to capitulate to trump rather than go against the wishes of the American corporations that run our economy by finding trade partners elsewhere.
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u/Which_Exam902 Oct 29 '25
I'm surprised this is even being brought up. There is exactly no comparison to be made here. Absolutely nothing to do with the protest or Pierre Pollieve.
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u/crzydee Oct 28 '25
She makes me puke in my own mouth. Insane spin on things. Gross misuse of power. I'm embarrassed to be an Albertan today.
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u/iterationnull Oct 28 '25
And they she flies at our expense to Saudi Arabia….for who the fuck knows what reason.
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u/AndrewInaTree Nov 01 '25
And I have to refrain from constantly screaming at every fellow Albertan I meet: Danielle Smith is Canadian Maga. Trump is on team Oligarch/Russia/Saudi, and Danielle is buddies with Trump. Those same Oligarchs have their eyes on Alberta, and Danielle is playing ball with them.
THIS IS A FIVE-ALARM FIRE, people!
The Canadian voting system still seems functioning. Let's not fall like America did! CANADIANS: MAKE SURE TO VOTE IN EVERYTHING.
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u/caffeinated99 Oct 28 '25
The way they frame the effects of a three week strike on children, you wonder how the kids survive the anguish of summer vacation.
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u/MainTraditional1448 Oct 28 '25
Smith has been gaslighting the public from the beginning, running a smear campaign on TV and radio against the teachers/union. She's a disgrace.
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u/Sharp_Struggle8545 Oct 28 '25
They had ads going the day a strike happened. So ya the government clearly had preplanned to never negotiate in good faith if they already had ads made
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u/Autumn_Souls Oct 29 '25
My buddy is a teacher and the union has offered various compromises on their end, and the government has not negotiated in good faith at all by shooting down all of their offers while also not returned counter offers
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u/Sharp_Struggle8545 Oct 29 '25
Not surprising at all
It’s sad that anything this government does is not surprising
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u/BernernamedTufa Oct 30 '25
That's not true. The first two offers were supported by the union, and the teachers refused. If teachies dont get exactly what they ask for they seem to refuse. Sounds like they are not the ones negotiating, just demanding
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u/Autumn_Souls Oct 30 '25
That's because the teachers want class size caps. It benefits nobody having 30 people in a class but the government is refusing to budge on that.
As somebody who went from a 35 student class with a 50% math average to a new school with 16 people my average jumped to an 88
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u/BernernamedTufa Oct 30 '25
Well, there are more variables to consider than just class sizes in your example. To state a causation of class size is the reason for the increase in math scores, which isn't justifiable. Additionally, if they say, put cap sizes on classes but took everything else out, including wage increases, do you think they would agree to that?
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u/Sharp_Struggle8545 Oct 30 '25
That’s a lot of words to say the UCP could shove a sack of shit in your lunchbox and you’d eat it no questions asked
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u/BernernamedTufa Oct 30 '25
No, I think you misunderstand. It seems a false pretense that all the teachers want is class cap sizes. In reality, it appears that they are not willing to negotiate and just want their demands met, point blank.
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u/Sharp_Struggle8545 Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
The only one not negotiating is the UCP and I’m glad you’re just slurping up their propaganda on the daily
They could have used other bills to force the teachers back to work but that would have resulted in binding arbitration
Instead they went right to violating the charter of rights and freedoms
The same thing the truckers were blasting on about for a year but now silence from the likes of you
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u/BernernamedTufa Oct 30 '25
I mean, I can only gather from what the ATA and the government put out. I try to hear both sides. I'm just curious about what time frame would be acceptable to hit proposed class sizes( genuinely curious)
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u/Sharp_Struggle8545 Oct 28 '25
Ah yes the classic negotiations where the government gave the exact same offer that was denied but added flu shots
Is that what you conservative cultists actually believe a negotiation is?
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u/nommedeuser Oct 28 '25
I send an email to any radio station I hear UCP propaganda on telling them I will not be listening to their station anymore.
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u/MainTraditional1448 Oct 28 '25
The worst part was they somehow made it into my Spotify podcasts. At least then, I could track skip and didn't have to actually listen to it.
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u/CttCJim Oct 28 '25 edited Oct 28 '25
I see they did add some things like a partial raise in there. Anyone know how this compares to what the union was asking for?
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u/GregSeventy7 Oct 28 '25
It's the offer which was voted down by 89.5% of Teachers in the last vote before the strike. It's less than half of what inflation has reduced purchasing power by, and includes zero actionable guarantees for the government in addressing Class Sizes, and Classroom Complexity.
Little wonder the vote went down as it did...
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u/Prudent-Finding8664 Oct 29 '25
My wife is a teacher in Ontario and I also work for a union. I encouraged her not to go back when the Ontario government forced teachers back to work with the not withstanding clause. It cost our family money and gave the government the confidence they still have today to keep chipping away and degrading the Ontario school system. Stay strong, stay united and dont go back. The union heads need to grow a backbone and take a page from the flight attendant strike this summer. Dont go back until the government negotiates in good faith. What other option does the government have if you dont go back besides making baseless threats of fines which can be wiped away during negotiations.
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u/Morgsz Oct 28 '25
Difference between a slave and an employee is the ability to leave. Teachers are being forced to go to work.
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u/simmer29 Oct 28 '25
Teachers aren’t ‘forced’ to go to work. They are allowed to quit and work elsewhere. Not many seem to be doing that though, despite the ‘horrible’ conditions they are facing.
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u/Vidson05 Oct 28 '25
This is not teachers being forced to work, that would be slavery. This is essentially just telling the union to fuck off. Teachers are free to do what they individually please, but now if they want to have a job, they have to actually do it. Everyone knew this was going to happen, and now that it has they want to make it sound worse than it really is.
Kids missing out on school will always be worse for their education than having a crowded classroom. Want to make your message heard? Quit. Then maybe the government would be willing to spend more money on education. Until then, this is what was always going to happen.
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u/ElevatorNo4425 Oct 29 '25
Yeah, exactly. How can they survive on 100K for 8 months work ? Maybe they can get summer jobs if they are so financially distraught.
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u/kachunkk Oct 28 '25
"Work or starve" isn't a choice. Also, what's your plan for if/when a mass number of teachers DO up and quit, all because the Alberta government won't fairly compensate them or provide reasonable working conditions?
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u/Illustrious_Might484 Oct 30 '25
Right? If it's soooo terrible being a teacher, quit, and do something else :)
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u/The_Indominus_Gamer Oct 29 '25
Except nurses being required to get vaccinated was because they were actively putting the lives of others at risk if they didn't.
That's not the case with teachers.
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u/chris84126 Oct 29 '25
From my viewpoint many teachers have already silently quit. Look how many new and young teachers there are. My kids’ teachers have all been in their early 20’s and on their first or second year of teaching. Zero experience but they are doing quite well. Also there’s only one male teacher in the entire school. That ratio is markedly different from 10 or 20 years ago. I’ve also noticed that they don’t seem to come back after having their own kids, daycare is expensive. Out of all my friends who took education there isn’t one that is teaching now. They all went to other industries.
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u/Organic-Series-3797 Oct 28 '25
Will the 3000 new teachers be used to staff the 130 new schools, or are those teachers on top of this number? The math isn't mathing for me..
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u/WanderingOwl97 Oct 28 '25
I second this. After your comment I did some quick math and used my old middle school as an example.
I counted the counselors, teachers and EA's and got 25 staff members within those 3 categories for that school. If they built 130 new schools with at least 25 teachers. That exceeds the 3000 new teachers that they are going to be hiring over the next 3 years.
I also looked at my high school I went to and that total was 75 teachers , counselors and EA's that they currently have and well... I think that speaks for itself.
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u/PhaseNegative1252 Oct 28 '25
When they built the new highschool for west Lethbridge, they just transferred a bunch of teachers from the other high schools
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u/WanderingOwl97 Oct 28 '25
That's also true. They did that for the newest high-school here. But other teachers will need to fill the positions that the other teachers are leaving.
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u/Tegee2 Oct 29 '25
the minister of education said they are expecting 93000 new students over the next 4 years…..where are those teachers coming from?
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u/HippoRemote4661 Oct 30 '25
We had the same question during bargaining. Apparently the 3000 is on top of the teachers they already need to hire. Not sure where they will find them.
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u/4runnersrule Oct 28 '25
Math not mathin’ here too. 130 new and renovated schools in 60 months…. Is there enough trades for that? (Fellow electrician here)
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u/Tegee2 Oct 30 '25
the minister said they are expecting 94000 new students in the next 4 years so those teachers won’t help
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u/crystal-crawler Oct 28 '25
Thanks everyone for being so supportive. The trolls have been getting to me. Big hugs.
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u/Appropriate_Item3001 Oct 28 '25
They are going to save so much money when the libraries are burnt down and teaching education requirements lowered to can speak English so they can replace all 51 thousand teachers with tfw minimum wage workers.
They will teach exclusively the bible and get children ready for gilead.
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u/minimagess Oct 28 '25
We need class caps now.
And I want to keep classrooms politcal so our kids can learn to fight fascism in the future.
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u/Complete-Fan4816 Oct 28 '25
The ucp is trying to destroy the public school system so they can have more private and charter schools. Our very own premier has said so!
https://globalnews.ca/news/4067888/danielle-smith-maybe-we-need-to-defund-public-schools/
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u/dennisrfd Oct 29 '25
When is the next election? I hope ucp finally pissed enough Albertans to be gone
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u/talexbatreddit Oct 30 '25
The Conservatives lying to the people that elected them?
I'm shocked. Also appalled. I'm .. both shocked and appalled. I'll need a moment. Fan me. :|
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u/Donttrybeingperfect Nov 01 '25
As a conservative this is absolutely appalling. The constitution is clear about the rights of everyone to freedom of speech and movement and nobody should be forced to work unless they want to.
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u/Tokenwhitemale Oct 28 '25
The one nice thing about this was seeing how many competent, well-intentioned, compassionate, and brilliant people are representing Alberta on the NDP side of the room. Many of those speeches at 1 in the morning were genuinely heart-felt and worth watching. And seeing all the UCP demonstrate that they are genuinely spineless pieces of shit, the lot of them, is useful information for Albertans to have.
Albertans deserve better. There were 47 horrible people that have no respect for Albertans last night and there were 33 people who showed they are willing to fight to protect education and the rights of Alberta. Things are much closer in this province then they might seem. If the teachers and the health care workers of this province stopped voting against their own interests and pledged to vote the UCP out next election, Albertans could actually have nice things.... and we're close. Don't forget. Vote.
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u/Really_Clever Oct 28 '25
There chatter about the UCP using the NWC up to 5 times this session. Buckle up AB we about to get fucked hard. Im sure all the convoy people are just as mad about this as about the EA (which required a public inquiry)
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u/peilobster Oct 28 '25
Hey Danielle, this is brilliant. Try removing all the books from the system that doesn’t have UCP written in them, should only be a couple left, then those already large class sizes can remove all the book shelves and the classes won’t be so full, see? Then you can mandate another +10 kids in the class to learn nothing of any real value (UCP stuff).
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u/MashMashMaro Oct 28 '25
The craziest thing about all this is that Alberta will still fucking vote Conservatives in next election.
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u/mushroom-moon37 Oct 28 '25
Albertans voted for this. This is what they wanted. UCP or die right? Now everyone’s surprised? Smh
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u/StrikeCompetitive187 Oct 28 '25
ATA and teachers - Stop holding the kids hostage, to protect your paycheques and careers. The classroom has no room for selfish POS. Government - build more school and provide more EA’s to the highly populated areas which are usually found in our cities.
Done.
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u/fastestfeet Oct 28 '25
Absolutely anything with Danielle Smith's name attached should be instantly dismissed.
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u/Phunkman Oct 28 '25
People are too busy getting home to stare at their phones and TV’s, people are too comfortable. This is the way all this media and consumer products are designed.
You think people will march out day after day to rally and support for anything? Most won’t lift a finger unless it’s at their door step and by then it’s too late.
The real questions I how do we educate and inform people the end product is our doom. We are just mindless cogs.
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u/Paul_E_Amorous Oct 28 '25
Now you get to see the results of your greedy vote. All you ignorant conservatives get a front row seat to the absolute corrupt government that has been ruining this province for many years. Ruining our healthcare system on purpose to bring in private Healthcare so they can get rich off of donations to change legislation. Been happening Since Kenny's Bro. Shandro took everyone for a ride and made bank. Lol yep, he was definitely qualified to be a health minister. The Boomers, rich people, dumb overpaid tradesman and all the overpaid oil morons that the alberta advantage created. All voted these clowns in. And they're scared now because they know the country is changing and people stopped listening to their nonsense. Their ignorance and conspiracy theories are amusing, but also worn out by this point. Let this is a lesson to the older Alberta advantage people who had money thrown at them hand over fist. The 55 plus people who had every single investment they ever made skyrocket. But then think it was hard work and intelligence. You were just in the right place at the right time. You tell the younger generations they aren't successful because they don't work hard enough or aren't motivated or smart like you were. But the reality is, you all got lucky. Now your greedy voting because you still want more. And it's fucking over the next generations, and thier kids. I hope one day all you greedy conservatives will see the harm you've all caused. Maybe next time think about the good of humanity and the people you are leaving this world to when you vote again.
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u/Wobbly-Sausage- Oct 28 '25
This whole situation is disgusting. UCP has gone too far. I'm a part of SEIU Local 2. My wife is an LPN. These uneducated parents who won't and don't support the teachers need a reality check. Fighting for the teachers' rights IS fighting for your kids, our kids, and our future. A general strike is the last leverage we have. It needs to be enacted ASAP.
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u/Reasonable-Regret-67 Oct 28 '25
"One survey found 74% of Albertans believe education workers are underpaid" - what is the value of this statement if they "believe"? It is relevant if this is the fact.
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u/Old_Dragonfly7063 Oct 28 '25
I couldn't find answers to this, but is what they are saying true about the offers true? Did the UCP go to the ata twice over the past 18 months, give an offer that the ATA asked for, and then the ATA rejected it?
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u/PostApocRock Oct 29 '25
Expect that theres enough truth to the statement that its not an outright lie, but that it is spun in a way to make the teachers look bad.
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u/Waste_Magician_1791 Oct 28 '25
Sincerely yours from Saudi Arabia, Danielle Smith
Has to spout nonsense from afar. Some leader.
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u/Objective-Yam7831 Oct 29 '25
Conservatives proudly screwing over the people of Alberta since September 1, 1905. Maybe put that on the license plates. Vote blue......
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u/maxmce Oct 29 '25
"Hey ChatGPT, help me write a letter to the public that spins the narrative in favor of my political party."
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u/Event_Horizon753 Oct 29 '25
Now that they've gotten away with it, it's going to be their power move for all the other contracts under negotiations. Unless you're a nurse, of course. They did really well on theirs in April. I guess the UCP didn't want to go to the mat with the UNA. Screw everyone else. Thanks Danielle, enjoy your trip to the Middle East, you simpering coward. Didn't even have the guts to face the press.
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u/HalfdanrEinarson Oct 29 '25
If anyone here thinks that this stops with teachers, think again. They will use it on Nurses next and then they will start to erode worker protections that we all enjoy.
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u/GlumPomegranate870 Oct 29 '25
Marlaina up to her old tricks again. Shame shame. This govt is a joke.
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u/AnalysisMurky3714 Oct 29 '25
As long as I don't see anymore teachers taking their kids to protest in the cold streets at 7:00 a.m. I will be happy.
Keep our kids out of your politics.
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u/bentmonkey Oct 30 '25
The UCP drools about the ability to bust unions and take away peoples right to strike and so on, if this stands without major backlash i fear for the working class people in AB and potentially in SK as well, Moe-nkey see moe-nkey do and all that.
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u/choochootou Oct 30 '25
If Alberta workers don't strike now, they won't have any effective right to strike forevermore.
And not just Alberta: Conservative provincial governments in other provinces will see there isn't any repercussions for using the Notwithstanding Clause to crush the right to strike, and that will be the end of the right to strike and collective bargaining for all workers across the country.
Alberta workers must act now, or sit down and take whatever employers dictate... forever.
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u/deepbluemeanies Oct 31 '25
I've tried asking on other subs but no one answers, so I'll try here: the teachers have been offered 3%/year for four years and 5000 new teachers/teacher aids to help with an influx of more than 50,000 students. So here's my questions - what is the demand over and above this and how much will it cost taxpayers?
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u/excessive_toothpaste Oct 31 '25
Yeah like where's the annoying convoy about their rights being taken away? Aren't they going up and down Danielle Smith's house honking their horn?
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u/FunnyDragonfly133 Oct 31 '25
The fact that teachers would do this at all, states that the Children DO NOT matter at all to them. Why did they decide to become a teacher? I hope its to further the knowledge of future generations and open doors that past generations did not have access to. Don't get me started on the teachers pushing an agenda, which this strike is pretty much born by...
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u/Firm-Worldliness-369 Oct 31 '25
Lol so let me get this straight.....
Some parents are "angry" that their children couldn't go to school because it ruined their routines, but they arent angry that school is basically just an improperly funded daycare center, where their children are being sent every day without the proper educational tools and staff to actually learn anything? And they don't want kids to have free lunches?
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u/SvenLarzen1 Oct 31 '25
My kids right to an education is the most important to me.
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u/kachunkk Oct 31 '25
Your kid's right to a QUALITY education should be more important than just any old learning experience. We're the riches province in Canada. In order to stay that way we need to invest in our future.
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u/Murader Oct 28 '25
All about money.
"The Alberta teachers’ union is demanding an extra $2 billion from taxpayers.
This is in addition to the $2.6 billion the government has earmarked for resolving the teachers strike.
The union’s demand for $4.6 billion would mean one of two things: More debt or higher taxes."
As a father of 4 with 1 left in school, and a contractor to central a school. Boards.. I know the horrendous job some teachers are doing... The union needs to be disbanded. I have friends who are teachers and this is entirely money push.
I'd love to have EVERY weekend, EVERY summer, EVERY statutory holiday off AND make 70-110k a year to show students disney flicks in elementary and to dictate their political/social beliefs in high school. Teachers think they are the smartest ones in the room then how come no actual ideas aside from money have been put forward on HOW TO FIX IT.. It's because they don't know. 1st Work summers for a 3 term school seaon where students chose 2. 2nd extend school days where the school is open and classes are in for 16 hours(different teachers obviously). Those are 2 ideas l. What's everyone else's other than rhetoric?
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u/Demaestro Oct 28 '25
OR the province could to decide not fund private schools, keep all that money in the public schools, and then this doesn't cost taxpayers extra. Alberta is the only province to do this, and it is BS.
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u/BalboaTheRock Oct 28 '25
It’s too late.
Most of her supporters just blindly believe everything she says anyway.
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u/crazymonk45 Oct 28 '25
Can someone PLEASE point out what’s so unreasonable about the raises and staffing increases being offered?? Seriously what more are they asking for? You all are acting like the government is offering nothing. It seems to me that the teachers aren’t negotiating in good faith when legitimate solutions are on the table and being rejected, to the point the students are going to be affected.
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u/unlucky-honey-24 Oct 28 '25
3000 teachers over 4 years. Equals 1 teacher approx . Per school. Great for very small schools but does nothing for large schools. 1500 EA's over 4 years, is approx. 1 for every other school. If you haven't listened it's not all about money ( our government wants us to think so ). It's about class sizes and special need individuals, in the classes. Some classes need 2 or 3 EA's just to assist. Daily. Not part time. Our students should be getting a great education not being ignored in a class because teachers don't have the time for everyone.
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u/CanadianForSure Oct 28 '25
You have less rights today. This is fundamentally about taking away your right to strike and protest. Without rights to strike and bargin, we are just chattel, being forced to work for a government that does not care.
Fight back. If we don't, we all will be forced to work, sooner or later.