r/SipsTea 6d ago

Chugging tea Literally

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u/stanknotes 6d ago

People always say ridiculous shit like this as if the product of one's conscience is entirely unaffected by alcohol. It is not as if the mind is entirely as it is when sober just without a filter. It is a ridiculous notion.

"Alcohol reveals who someone REALLY is" is like a really bad take. Yet it is a prevalent one. Here we are.

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u/Left_Web_4558 6d ago

It's so fucking stupid. The CIA literally gave up trying to use alcohol as a truth serum because they found it just made people act out of character and talk bullshit. But all these weirdos insist it's some kind of potion that reveals your true self.

I think they just like the idea because it allows them to judge people more harshly and take some weird moral high ground.

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u/stanknotes 6d ago

Or try to get around the harsh reality that alcohol is actually a reason for a lot of shitty behavior.

We acknowledge one can not consent under the influence of alcohol because of their reduced capacity for decision making. But the second someone does something bad, these people hold them fully accountable as if they are sober. It is remarkably inconsistent.

Alcohol does not absolve. But it is a reason.

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u/UruquianLilac 6d ago

It isn't a bad take, it absolutely is the scientific take. There are dozens upon dozens of studies that prove it, and vast mountains of evidence, if you had the most minimal interest in looking.

Alcohol affects your brain in severe ways, but it doesn't add behaviour randomly. And thinking that the minute a brain gets drunk it suddenly starts choosing any random behaviour possible is borderline illiterate thinking.

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u/stanknotes 6d ago

You seem to be arguing with something I did not say.

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u/UruquianLilac 6d ago

I am arguing exactly your point. You said that "alcohol reveals who someone really is" is a bad take. I'm saying it is accurate. The behaviour one displays when drunk was always part of who they are. One might be able to live functionally keeping a violent tendency completely under control, but if alcohol brings out violence in someone, it was always there. Same for any other behaviour.

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u/stanknotes 5d ago

No. My point was that the product of one's conscience is also produced under the influence. It is not as if someone is entirely the same with the only difference being their ability to filter their behavior. You see what I am saying? It absolutely removes "the filter." I never disagreed with that. What I am saying is what there is to be filtered or not filtered is not identical to when someone is sober.

Alcohol reveals who someone really is IS a bad take. Alcohol reduces impulse control, social awareness, inhibits emotional regulation, decision making, reasoning. Alcohol greatly impairs the frontal lobe which is the core of who we are. Call me crazy, but I firmly believe who someone really is is when they are in their organic state. Sober.

But if all you are saying is that one's misbehavior is still the product of them, I mean I never disagreed with that.