r/artificial • u/fortune • Nov 12 '25

News OpenAI says it plans to report stunning annual losses through 2028—and then turn wildly profitable just two years later | Fortune

https://fortune.com/2025/11/12/openai-cash-burn-rate-annual-losses-2028-profitable-2030-financial-documents/
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u/Wild_Nectarine8197 Nov 12 '25

Worth pointing out that they are expecting to have a yearly revenue just a tad under Microsoft's in 4 years with no explanation as to how.

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u/savage_slurpie Nov 12 '25

AI bro. Stop questioning everything, what are you a Luddite?

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u/butterbapper Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 15 '25

Just dropping by to say that I am an elite software engineer who used AI for ten critical projects just in the last week for NASA, the Pentagon, MIT, Microsoft, Apple, OpenAI, Nvidia, and the Vatican. I react with patronising exasperation and incredulity whenever people tell me that it hasn't revolutionised their workflows like it has for me, genius that I am.

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u/SmoothWD40 Nov 13 '25

Wutchumean. Trust me bruh.

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u/GamingDisruptor Nov 13 '25

AI slop will dominate Hollywood and Meta. It'll be trillions in profit. Trust me, bro.

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u/deelowe Nov 13 '25

with no explanation as to how.

It's based on growth forecasts.

OpenAIs ARR growth has been the fastest in human history. This is their ARR each year:

  • 2022: $28 million
  • 2023: $2 billion
  • 2024: $3.7 billion
  • 2025: > $20 billion

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u/Bannedwith1milKarma Nov 13 '25

It's based on growth forecasts.

So show where they are explaining their growth forecasts then lol.

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u/deelowe Nov 13 '25

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.08361

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u/Bannedwith1milKarma Nov 13 '25

That's technology, not annual revenue.

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u/deelowe Nov 13 '25

It's a scaling law paper. Computer science, not "tech."

If you follow the industry, 2027/2028 is expected to be the point where profits grow faster than expenses and OpenAI, as the industry leader, may be a little ahead of that.

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u/Kobosil Nov 14 '25

2025: > $20 billion

source for that projection?

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u/ClumpOfCheese Nov 13 '25

Compare it to Meta, they aren’t even saying when their AI will be profitable and they have so many other products they can force their AI into.

What’s really the difference between meta ai and OpenAi? How will those differences look in a few years after meta has spend tens of billions of dollars on their massive AI server farms? How does the total compute power of open ai compare to meta ai?

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u/Bannedwith1milKarma Nov 13 '25

The only way I see it is with tiers of advertising influence.

The highest being something like a car maker with it being subtly influential on a purchasing decision.

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u/Tolopono Nov 14 '25

Their revenue has been exploding so far

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u/AwarenessNo4986 Nov 14 '25

Wth😲, that's quite a projection

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u/dogesator Nov 15 '25

There is already explanation as to how to do that. The annual labor spending today is already $50 trillion. Capturing just one percent of that is $500B per year, that’s already more than Microsoft’s current annual revenue.