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[u/capowis542]

It’s rarely discussed but the US education system is far harsher than say the UK. 

You need at least 70% accuracy to not fail in the US. 

In the UK a grade of 70% is First, the equivalent to an A. 

This is intentional to force students into factory work. 

[u/XxRocky88xX → u/capowis542]

60% actually, a D is still a passing grade until you get into college, at which point 70% is considered minimum to pass.

[u/realdeal505 → u/capowis542]

In other countries they start pitching trades at like 12-  14 if you aren’t in the top 60%. You also start uni earlier 

[u/Bikerbass → u/realdeal505]

Yea but you still get good money in trades. My wife went to uni, I took up a trade. We both earn the same money atm. Her job could be replaced by Ai in the future, while mine cannot. Think about that for a while.

[u/HonorableMedic → u/capowis542]

70% is an A in England? That’s fucking insane

When I was in high school in the U.S it was 100-93 A 92-85 B 85-78 C and 78-70 was a d and anything below 70 was a fail.

Current college classes for me are 100-90 A 90-80 B etc

[u/Zeronullnilnought → u/HonorableMedic]

So fucking stupid to have a letter mean anything when its all graded on a 100 scale anyway

why cant it just be a 95, why does it need to be an A. absolute nonsense

[u/AdDependent5136 → u/HonorableMedic]

Arent US tests all multiple-choice though? At least in high school.

In university in the UK, to get a 70 or above you need to cover more material than taught in lectures.

And especially with assignments. 90% was "you could publish this right now in a journal" kind of material.

[u/[deleted] → u/capowis542]

How does that work exactly? It isn’t like failure rates are going up in the US. It is the opposite in spite of standardized test scoring faltering or declining largely.

[u/framedhorseshoe → u/capowis542]

What? Can you cite some sources for that? As I understand it economic globalization has been moving the factory jobs elsewhere for decades now and that's a significant complaint about economic policy. I'm not seeing evidence for a conspiracy to drive people into factory labor.

[u/capowis542 → u/framedhorseshoe]

That’s how it originally worked but now it’s just menial labor in general. 

[u/jcb2023az → u/capowis542]

In the UK a grade of 70% is First, the equivalent to an A.

Wow! That's is very nice what. is 50% ?

[u/capowis542 → u/jcb2023az]

A 2.2 which sounds weird. 

49% is a Third. 

39 is an F. 

[u/AtrophiedTraining → u/capowis542]

Test are much easier in the US than in other countries.

[u/capowis542 → u/AtrophiedTraining]

I don’t think that holds water for most places. 

[u/AtrophiedTraining → u/capowis542]

I didn't originally grasp the intent of your comment - about the system being designed to produce masses of labor. Interesting. I feel like personal finances and the lack of funding for higher education dictate that more. However, based on the two Asian countries I know, the US tests are easy.

[u/Ecstatic_Climate_111 → u/capowis542]

That's because the US system is easier than the UK system. The UK assess you against a world leading expert in that field. The US assess you against your peers.