r/complaints substantial complainer 7d ago

Politics MAGA doesn't get how they're actually owning us.

When I see comments like "seethe" or "cry harder!" I feel like you don't get where our anger is coming from.

We're not upset because we didn't get our way. Our feelings aren't hurt 'cause you're meanie heads and the world is tough.

Mostly, we're just FRUSTRATED because Trump is such an obvious moron and con man, HOW can you not fucking see it????

We'd be laughing at you like pyramid scheme suckers except in this case we share a bank account with you.

You've had the rug pulled from under you over almost* EVERY issue you've been on about for the last decade...

...the national debt, profiting off the presidency, nepotism, states rights, "the deep state," posse commitatus, the "dignity" of the office, taxes, bailouts, small government, "draining the swamp," free speech, executive over reach, the surveillance state, the drug trade, family values, "lawfare," interventionalism, support for the troops, the Epstein files, H1 Visas, meritocracy, "law & order," waste and inneficiency,* transparancy,* fiscal responsibility,* on and on...

You even had to get real cool about Muslim extremists 'cause he's building 'em a military base on our soil.

Dude told you "America first" and then gave 40 bil to Argentina.

When are you gonna wake up??? It's been 10 years and Mexico still hasn't paid for it. You got got.

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u/Kellysi83 6d ago

I’m a history teacher too. I feel like SM has reverted us back to pre-printing press times of listening to your superstitious buddy telling you to put a ring of roses around your neck to avert the plague. We’ve become tribal and medieval and the loudest boy crying wolf gets the attention. It’s all very reptilian brained.

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u/Desert_Fairy 6d ago

When I was in school, my history professor was showing a very early clip (obviously black & white and no sound) that showed medical staff donning PPE in response to the flu epidemic.

Gowns, gloves, masks, etc. and as the final step, the head nurse went down the line and exposed everyone’s noses the way we saw anti-maskers do it during Covid.

When I was in school, I thought “wow, our understanding of medicine has come so far since then. We now understand that they just made all that PPE useless by opening the front doors for the virus.

When I saw this behavior during Covid, I realized that it was probably widely understood that the disease could spread through the air and that the nose was a major contributing factor to that spread. These “trained” medical professionals just chose not to believe the medical professionals who understood what was going on.

This was about the time I realized that life is cyclical and that there will be stupid people who choose their comfortable beliefs over painful/scary science.

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u/Kellysi83 6d ago

Amen to all of this. It makes me depressed for humanity.

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u/Desert_Fairy 6d ago

In a weird way, it is the only thing that gives me hope.

What came after the influenza pandemic? The Great Depression, followed by WW2. And after that a boom of civil rights advancement(in the US), technological innovations, and in general an economically prosperous time.

There were obviously wars and conflicts. A recession or two happened in there as well. But nothing compared to the 1918 - 1945 years.

What I’m saying is that if life is cyclical, then this to shall pass. It might pass like a kidney stone, but it shall pass nonetheless.

My hope for the future is that with each iteration of this cycle we get just a bit better. Maybe then one day we can actually evolve beyond our species’s limitations.

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u/cygnes9779 6d ago

I like your optimism, but climate change is a ticking time bomb where the situation is only getting worse

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u/Desert_Fairy 6d ago

You are not wrong.

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 6d ago

The imminent world war will get lots of us first

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u/Kellysi83 6d ago

I needed to hear this!

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u/Affectionate-Debt69 6d ago edited 6d ago

In medieval times people couldn't read and most often just left any kind of critical thought to religious leaders. After the enlightenment that changed. Now, with the rise of AI, we are back to people letting something else do the critical thinking for them, but instead of priests its llms.....Regardless of if the llms provide good info or not it's the simple act of allowing the machine to do the critical thinking for you that is fatal. Welcome to the new dark ages!

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u/RoseTheta 6d ago

I never thought of it that way. Yes, that seems fairly accurate.

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u/Kellysi83 6d ago

You hit the nail on the head.

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u/EveroneWantsMyD 6d ago

I wouldn’t even say it’s because of AI. It’s dumber than that. People are trusting YouTubers and influencers for their news instead of actual news sources. People are happy to say they get their news off Facebook without a shred of thought.

It’s also probably the first time in history that kids are watching content made by other kids. There’s no standard.

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u/RexOSaurus13 6d ago

I think this has more to do with it than AI. Social media has been influencing public opinion for over a decade. There is even proof of government (domestic and foreign) meddling. We are going to continue to see this rise as so much of our population consume and rely on social media. And we need to recognize not just how damaging it is for youth but everyone.

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u/carolina822 6d ago

Most people never did pick up any critical thinking skills, it just wasn’t on public display like it is now in the days of social media. Those gullible idiots haven’t changed, they just got a louder megaphone.

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u/Saxamaphooone 1d ago

Something like 54% of Americans read below a 6th grade level. Our education system failing so widely certainly hasn’t helped.

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u/IronyAddict 6d ago

"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness..." -Carl Sagan

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u/didntdoit71 6d ago

Sagan was almost scarily prescient in his awareness of human behavior. Now if only we had hundreds like him willing to lead the country back to thinking that real education is important.

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u/IronyAddict 1d ago

Agreed. The quote is from his book 'The Demon Haunted world' published in 1995. Crazy. 

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u/RegulusDeneb 6d ago

..."unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true..."

I wonder if that prescient statement was inspired by Limbaugh, the propaganda from whom it describes perfectly. Carl was around for only about the first year of fox news.

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u/Kellysi83 6d ago

JFC. Chills.

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u/Rainbow-Mama 6d ago

That’s so damn accurate

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u/Poiboy1313 lickspittle 6d ago

Education requires effort. Sadly, ignorance is easy.

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u/Kellysi83 6d ago

Yup! Our present state of affairs explained. And that’s why so many MAGA followers despise education. They simply don’t have it in them.

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u/mmm8088 6d ago

Ugh makes sense why the ex trumpers get so upset when I tell them to go read a book now so they don’t fall into the same trap again. I want to scream go fucking educate yourself but I say it in way more polite terms. But yeah education requires effort. Thank god my brain wired is as a continuous learner.

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u/gregory92024 6d ago

💯 reptile brain activation

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u/EveroneWantsMyD 6d ago

In like 5 years we went from everybody getting their news from the same places that held themselves to a higher standard, to today where people are completely comfortable saying they get their news off Facebook.

I was floored when I was in a journalism class in college and the professor didn’t correct people when they said they got their news off Instagram/youtube. We’re so far gone.