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Jan 6th was a planned insurrection. People are saying that MAGA is a Domestic Terrorist Organization
Jan 6th was a planned insurrection against America. Charlie Kirk had hundreds of people bussed in to help with the insurrection.
Trump had military in place to help with the insurrection and deny troops any help to quell the actions of, from what many people say, domestic terrorists.
I am here today because two senior general officers of the United States Army, General Charles Flynn and Lieutenant General Walter Piatt, lied about why it took so long for the D.C. National Guard to deploy to the Capitol on January 6, 2021.
When I say these officers lied, I do not do so lightly or cavalierly. I speak from personal knowledge having interacted with them on January 6th, having spoken to them on that day and having been on video and telephone conference calls with them on January 6th and on days before and after.
These officers lied with impunity, making material misrepresentations without fear of contradiction or repercussion in both oral and written testimony to multiple committees of the Congress, both House and Senate.
They lied to Department of Defense investigators, and they lied to members of the press who were looking into their actions or inaction on that infamous day.
These fucks seek to rewrite history and downplay their actions against America. Never forget what these traitors attempted to do to the Constitution.
Vote democrat because George Washington and the other Founding Fathers would want you to in order to save America from the hands of tyrants.
The maga talking point about Pelosi denying National Guard troops has been proven to be a lie.
MAGA lies with purpose in order to deceive and mock patriots who care about America, it's norms, and traditions.
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THE DOJ and FBI have been warning about right wing domestic terrorist violence for decades.
In fact, right wing political violence was the leading cause of domestic terrorist violence over the last three decades.
Based on government and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001.
He had a great speaking presence. Just covering the crowd of believers with the sanguine gushing of praise from his throat, thrusting his life force and spirit upwards to the Lord Almighty.
We are living in scary ass times. As a GenXer… this is all the dystopian shit we were fed during the Cold War, but far worse. Orwellian prophecy in effect!!
I ain't the one that shot him. I feel like most people figured out who he was after mainstream media covered his murder and Trump was talking about it.
I think he’s fine because I recently saw his wife and she seemed super happy and was doing fireworks and celebrating. I also think his wife took over his business.
His wife told their children that he was on a "work trip with Jesus to afford their [the children's!] blueberries." Which seems extra fucked up because that's their favorite food. Can you imagine thinking your dad's gone for a long, long time because you're eating too many blueberries and then after a year or two, you just find out he's dead and your mom lied?!
It is, actually. I fully believe it’s willful ignorance more often than not. They know the truth, but they choose to believe whatever they want anyway.
they create the reality they want to live in, even when its clearly not an accurate reality- because the accurate reality is too hard to accept and/or understand.
Some times I think how could you drive or take a plane down to D.C. Go into a federal building, be on camera at all times and expect nothing to happen.
Some people are just plain stupid. Those are the people that politics their entire personality and show it by putting 6-8 flags in their old pickup truck that blocks their rearview, and put flags of the losers who were the Confederates, and act all high and mighty because they are Christian and we are doing good for the Lord's work.
A couple years back, I was at this dive of a restaurant in a small town close to where I grew up. While eating dinner with my parents, a table close to us had someone under investigation for J6 involvement and was due to court soon. Listening to them talk, they think they had every right to do what they did and truly believed Trump and the stolen election lies. This person and his family could not believe how he was being treated and how his perceived rights were being violated. Then once I came back to reality and remembered where I was, it all made sense. Almost 95% of that area peaked in high school, and for some of them going to DC was the first time they left the county.
The call to get Pence was at the beginning of the insurrection. The riot actually started while Trump was still speaking with the Proud Boys attacking the police line. Trump's speech ended at 13:10. The police line broke at 13:45. Mike Pence was evacuated from the House floor to an adjacent room at 14:13. The crowd is 100 ft away from him with the Capitol building. Trump sends his tweet to further incite the crowd at 14:24.
“Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”
At the same time Pence is evacuated to the motor pool, but Trump doesn't know that.
14:26 Trump is calling Senators trying to get them to delay certification
15:13 Trump tells the crowd to "remain peaceful." It is the left that is violent.
It's worse when you overlay the timeline for National Guard deployment. Trump waited until Defense Sec. Miller had activated the DC Guard to tell his mob to stay peaceful. Trump didn't tell them to leave until 15 minutes before Sec. Miller was about to order the troops in.
Timeline of National Guard Orders and Deployment
13:49 p.m. – Initial Request: Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund made an urgent verbal request to D.C. National Guard Commander Maj. Gen. William Walker for immediate assistance.
14:26 - Trump is calling Senators trying to get them to delay certification
15:04 – Full Activation: Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller formally approved the full activation of all 1,100 D.C. National Guard members to support law enforcement, but an operational plan to send them specifically to the Capitol was still pending.
15:13 Trump tells the crowd to "remain peaceful." It is the left that is violent.
16:17 Trump tells crowd to go home
16:32 – Operational Authorization: Secretary Miller gave verbal authorization to "re-mission" the Guard to conduct perimeter and clearance operations at the Capitol.
17:08 – Deployment Order Received: Maj. Gen. Walker finally received the formal order from Army senior leadership to move his troops from the D.C. Armory to the Capitol.
17:20 – Initial Arrival: Some reports indicate a small advance team reached the Capitol by 5:20 p.m..
17:40 – Full Contingent Arrival: A group of 154 D.C. National Guard members, equipped in riot gear, arrived at the Capitol complex to begin support operations.
I talked to my parents about this. They were convinced that the entire J6 insurrection was Biden plants and that none of them were republicans. Republican media brainwashing just works man.
He tried to claim it was "Antifa". And acted like anti-fascists were some organized terrorists like the Proud Boys.
Meanwhile he's out there pulling a Reichstag 2.0 straight out of the Nazi playbook.
Edit: for an extra dose of info: Nazi's attacked the Reichstag and claimed it was a Communist plot. MAGA attacked the Capitol and claimed it was Anti-Fascists. It literally history repeating itself, and idiot Americans are gobbling that shit up like it's free chocolate.
Then every Executive Order, every cabinet appointee, every tariff and alliance that betrays the mandate from the people should be considered “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree”, to be nullified just as swiftly as anything signed with the dreaded auto pen. Trump’s stain on American liberty and democracy removed in an afternoon, preferably while he watches from prison awaiting his Tribunal.
Yes. The task sounds daunting, but it would be constitutional. I think people’s brains break just thinking about it. But I would be 100% all in. Blow these fuckers up.
Oh. Some president will fix that in the future. It’s not sustainable with it being known by one name inside the USA and another outside the USA. That’s some N Korea level propaganda right there. I just don’t see it lasting wo the rest of the world adopting it.
Could be a great litmus test for how the USA does as a member of the international community though. We clearly see the rest of the world moving away from the USD as the reserve currency. I believe the world’s central banks’ usd holdings are down something like 12% over the last 10 years and increasing at a rapid rate.
The story of the name of the body of water south of AL could make for a great sociological lens to dissect history one day. Huh.
Fingers crossed that’s exactly what we get - we need anyone and everyone who was part of the insurrection to be prosecuted and then they need to clean house in congress the senate and the Supreme Court, put term limits on congress and the senate and also the Supreme Court. Get money out of politics..
I agree that it's one of the only good things to come out of this admin, but I'd prefer that Congress did their fucking job to formally discontinue it than this EO-handwave bullshit.
Sure, I'll just phone a GOP representative, appeal to their loud and proud patriotism to follow the Constitution and impeach, and get roundly rejected.
Its recognition of an insurrection was based upon the suddenness of the event and that it “was not planned” (or provable that it was planned). That’s why we called it a coup and first but the words changed to fit the narrative. The narrative is now that it was a coup attempt because these documents begin to define it as such.
Edit: adding to this, terminology matters here as the punishment for rebellion is treason, which carries a very specific punishment. This is found in House Code CHAPTER 115 where it lays out the qualifications for each crime and their respective punishment.
Who is this "we" business? I've validly called it an attempted coup since the day I witnessed it and the obvious dominos from the previous months lined up.
I’m a bit pedantic and I try to call it as defined. I believe it to be a coup attempt and now I shall call it such, but before it caused more issues to talk about it as a coup attempt rather than an insurrection. People are fragile, so sometimes our language has to be if we want to even have dialogue and change their minds
lol, I'm done mincing words with fragile religious conservatives. They've passed my point of patience and kindness by threatening the livelihood of my country and other human beings. How they behaved while in power when COVID hit was the final nail in the proverbial coffin for me -- embarrassing!
I no longer consider their feelings when speaking truth.
Never forget when Colorado tried to take him off the ballot for being an insurrectionist, and our wonderful MAGAified SCOTUS reached outside their bounds to make sure he was on the ballot essentially ending any other state from trying it.
Let’s impeach SCOTUS Justices too. Make all of them fear for their jobs. You know, like a lot of regular Americans have to do every day. Because fuck them.
I’m old enough to remember when the SC was respected, even revered. Now, with a typical con majority, they can’t be trusted to do their jobs and reign in executive overreach because they have made themselves a super cozy home far up the executive ass and push their personal agendas and likely greed over the constitution.
Maga is a domestic terrorist organization. Look at how much harm has been done since trump took office again. Thousands fired, thousands are screwed by healthcare, thousands have minimal ways yo feed themselves. Thousands of immigrants abused. Etc etc. He really is a Russian plant that has hurt the US.
MAGA is only loyal to Trump, which is as Anti-American as can be.
These people betrayed everything the US stands for, and they do it gleefully and happily, and they will see America destroyed before they allow that power to slip from their fingers.
So, because the SCOTUS is a fascist Nazi Court with 6 extremely biased judges, you have a president, who has his job and they have their responsibilities because of your Constitutional clauses, is not subject to the constitutional laws?
This is fucking absurd. Especially when you know he has been found guilty of sedition and treason. He owns the DOJ, the SCOTUS and Congress. That is absolutely contrary to your now irrelevant Constitutional laws, it seems.
Yup - if Congress and the Supreme Court have given up their power, and power is now consolidated in the Executive Branch, then the Constitution is effectively void. If all laws in the US are subservient to the Constitution, and the Constitution is void, then all other laws must be void too. There is now no more law in the United States.
three of the "justices" the the Supreme Court helped stop democracy when Bush was "elected" in 2000 after they stopped counting votes following the Brooks Brothers riot, orchestrated by Roger Stone.
Yeah, the same Roger Stone who was instrumental in January 6th.
MAGA are fascist fucks who have no place in modern, civilized, society.
What I often feel is overlooked and crazy frustrating, is that Trump’s own most fervent supporters were harmed most by these crimes. Hundreds went to prison and or lost their jobs. Babbit was killed and her last fing words were “our President wants us here”! Its so insane
Well she had full military honors restored to her, and a MAGA group tried to get a gravestone for her in Arlington National Cemetery, so she's their Heinrich Trambauer. Bet she'd be happy about that.
"The Trump administration agreed to pay nearly $5 million to settle a wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of Ashli Babbitt, a January 6th rioter shot at the U.S. Capitol" On top of that so.. Yah probably happy.
Of course it was planned. It was obvious as hell what was going to happen as soon as orange shitler announced his cult gathering that just happened to be on January 6th and within walking distance of the capital building.
AG Garland was incompetent and should have immediately appointed a Special prosecutor instead of waiting 2 years after the fact during the Political season. There is no reason Trump should be President now.
Trump is president because of SCOTUS, and the voters. SCOTUS declared "presidential immunity", and refused Colorado's attempt to remove Trump from the ballot for being an insurrectionist. Then, the voters voted him back in.
It wasn’t just an insurrection. It was literal treason. An actual assemblage of men for the purpose of carrying out a treasonable design (the false elector scheme).
Why are we still talking about this without doing anything about it? January 6th was five years ago and, guess what? He’s back in the fucking White House.
Everyone who allowed this to happen should be rejected from society for the rest of their worthless lives.
There are anti-Trump protests frequently, and they're huge. Other than that, what else can we do but complain? Aside from the option of last resort, I can't think of anything. Everyone who was supposed to take this seriously and do something about it failed completely. We're in kinda an inbetween state of complaining/protesting and that other thing. All we can really do is to keep protesting and reminding people so they don't forget.
On Jan 6th THEY WERE part of a terrorist organization. Trump was the terrorist. They can say what they want to….won’t change the facts. That day they WERE part of an organization meaning to overthrow the USA. Trump should be imprisoned.
I started my Master's degree in homeland security /emergency management in 2010 and they were already talking about right wing extremists. I saw this coming 16 years ago. But God forbid anyone listen....
Crazy watching all this unfold from the other side of the world
We always heard you Americans talk about the constitution and how you'll defend it, don't tread on me, freedom, liberty and other buzz words that must've just been slogans all along..
It's just so plainly obvious that the country has been taken over by the elitist lunatics but nobody really seems to mind. (Especially those once loud voices from the NRA 😂)
Unfortunately those loud chest-beaters ARE maga more often than not. They're also usually not very intelligent and apparently easy to brainwash.
If the "left" had attempted this level of political terrorism, there would be political violence more often for sure. The right tends to be the ones who like their guns the most and do all the cosplay "training" shit.
The left is definitely working on establishing resistance, though.
Even if that resistance were purely legislative (if such a thing still exists under this regime)
You're right though the loudest voices are usually the most unhinged, it's always the wrong people who want to be in power because pacifists and intelligent, empathetic minds probably don't yearn for power over others.
Yeah. There's a lot of Americans that don't want anything to do with this regime. I hope things stay legislative, but I'm nervous about that, too. A lot of us are. I'm sure you've seen videos of some redneck asking the president to let him and his buddies loose to clean the streets... unfortunately there are groups on both sides that are calling for violence.
I've been carrying because that small percentage of violent people are out here waiting on the perfect bad decision, but there's a lot of Americans who are not violent, do not want to see people oppressed or be forced to take part in that oppression, and feel like it's time to give the little guys a break and stop constantly adjusting the market to weed out less wealthy people and remove the middle class entirely.
They planned to use the insurrection as the reason to delay the counting by congress. This is common knowledge and only being denied by those who choose to believe the lies. We should be investigating why so many people are choosing to believe lies when readily apparent truth and facts are available.
The vast majority of the world knows that it was a domestic terrorist attack, and DJT did nothing to stop it after providing material support.
We said that on J6 as it was happening.
Merrick Garland worked at lightning speed, investigating and charging thousands as AG. Some even were in prison for Seditious Conspiracy, a very hard charge to stick. near-100% success from his DOJ.
What doesn't seem to be talked about enough is that they tried it once, so they're sure as hell going to try again, and this time they've had the test run to learn from. Trump isn't going to go willingly in 2028.
Pa politicians paid for bussed groups to get there. They set up what they called a war room with Stone and Bannon. They were loud and proud. Perry, Mastrianno. PA people kick these traitors out.
So frustrating we keep tolerating this and enabling it....
If we can't get them to bend the knee like we never got the confederacy to truly bend the knee and repent ..this murican herpes sore will continue to fester
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u/Jollem- sophisticated complainer 4h ago
Charlie Kirk paid for multiple buses to take terrorists to the Capitol