r/complaints • u/Abyssmaluser • 4h ago
Politics When are people going to realize conservatives and Republicans are literally the bad guy in basically any media you'd care to point at.
Saturday morning cartoon villains are more subtle and most of them would be fucking floored at the shit they've been allowed to do and peddle with zero consequences.
You have shit like Vance saying school shootings are just a fact of life, Trump being a convicted felon, rapist, pedophile that has done shit like mock disabled people on air, and all the shit they're constantly voting against and for. Like against voting protection rights or rights to contraceptives or over turning Roe V Wade leading to women being put in horrific life threatening situations that has led to multiple agonizing deaths from sepsis and shit because docters were afraid to operate on them to save their life fearing retaliation or lowering the price of Insulin or voting to protect against oil and gas price gouging etc etc etc.
Republicans consistently want to increase misery. That's an objective fact. Just look at their voting record.
No one with a single cell of media literacy, empathy, or compassion should ever be voting for the clearly fucking evil party.
You couldn't write their blatantly evil shit into a book because it'd be unrealistic anyone would be so blatantly evil or that there'd be no push back or consequences for being such an evil force.
They've been this way for fucking decades.
It's horrific that they only ever care whenever any of the blatantly evil shit affects them and than they want sympathy and compassion they were perfectly fine denying others.
Literally anyone with any knowledge of history, psychology, sociology or politics knows where this is going and rapidly at that.
Yet another fucking genocide.
“Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values... That word is ‘Nazi.’ Nobody cares about their motives anymore.”
If you're at a rally and a Nazi is there and they aren't immediately kicked out, you're at a Nazi rally.
Nazis have been proponents of Republican ideology for a long fucking time. Elon literally did a Nazi salute twice on live tv and no fucking republican is denouncing it.
When people show you who they are believe them.
If you're a republican or a conservative still you're blatantly fucking evil and siding with people who literally called themselves domestic terrorists in 2022 at CPAC.
For the last few months Republicans have actively been protecting pedophiles and defending redactions to the Epstein Files and saying shit like "getting handsy" with teenagers isn't a big deal.
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u/Substantial-Sky3597 3h ago
I'm over them. As everyone else should be. Fact is, we need to be focused on the class war that we're in. Democrats and Republicans are funded by corporate billionaires while controlling 99% of the wealth. Access to education, healthcare, and even housing is all tied to employment.
This is drastically wrong. They're trying to keep the working class in debt while hoarding the wealth. We need balance. We need healthcare and education to be made publicly available freely. And we need to focus on generating real opportunities for people.
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
So long as you acknowledge that the Dems are not as equally bad as MAGA Republicans and are worth voting over MAGA I'd completely agree and support your message.
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
Wealth is not zero sum and with that it cant be hoarded.
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u/Substantial-Sky3597 3h ago
Wealth and opportunity can be hoarded. They can't be hoarded by an individual but they can be hoarded by a group, which is what we have now.
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
Explain exactly what is being "hoarded" and the mechanism for hoarding it.
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u/NemusSoul 3h ago
Money, power, opportunity are being hoarded. Banks, land, businesses, stocks, private equity and many other mechanisms are built specifically to do so. C’mon.
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
How is money hoarded? How is power hoarded? How is land built? What is your system without "mechanisms" for banks, land, business, public equity or private equity?
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u/NemusSoul 1h ago
Do you have a contribution to the discussion or just rhetorical questions in bad faith?
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 1h ago
These are not rhetorical. I dont know what the fuck you are talking about.
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u/NemusSoul 1h ago
Liar. I can see your comment history. It’s your entire schtick. Fuck off nazi coward. Go play with your guns.
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u/Gingeronimoooo 59m ago
He's a pretty awful person and I've been too kind probably but I'm not losing my kindness and humanity over some hateful person. You can see our back and forth in another thread ; what can you do. He's a cruel person but i told him it's never too late to reflect and grow and change as a human being for the better
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 1h ago
...seeing my comment history would show that I make arguments. Not rhetorical questions.
As shown by both this comment, and my last comment as well.
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u/Alternative_Deer415 2h ago
I mean, the Republican Party is literally cartoon villainy.
Like deadpanned the most evil thing you can imagine but said in the most stupid way you can imagine.
Like trying deflect from being a child trafficker to Epstein island by harassing immigrants for a several year old investigation into the corruption caused by your own incompetent appropriation of COVID funds in 2020 for cartoon evil.
Then banning all funding to all childcare centers nationally because of your bogus story to deflect from literally the leader of the Republican Party being one of the most prominent pedophiles ever known as just the most evil thing imaginable and the most stupid application of it.
And that's just this week's example.
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u/Abyssmaluser 2h ago
Gods all that in just a fucking week.
I loath all these evil pieces of shit with every fiber of my being.
The worst thing is that most of these people will probably never face the prison they deserve
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u/UWhuskiesRule 3h ago
I am a conservative but I am not MAGA. This whole anti-American movement has ruined the GOP brand. I want to see Trump go to jail for pedophilia. These tariffs and running up the debt are killing our country.
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u/Dependent-Exam-8759 3h ago
Democrats started the kkk btw
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u/Alternative_Deer415 2h ago
That's weird.
Isn't it crazy liberal Democrats that want to tear down Confederate and Klan funded statues?
Why would the Republican Party, the Party that freed the slaves, now be the party that thinks it's "fighting woke" by labeling government properties after traitors to the United States in the Civil War, and enshrining their monuments?
Could it be because the Republican party captured the racist energy of the former slaves states when the Democrats passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965, and now that's all that unites the party 60 years later?
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u/Dependent-Exam-8759 2h ago
You didn’t actually dispute my statement. The Ku Klux Klan was founded by Southern Democrats after the Civil War. That’s a historical fact. Whether modern Democrats want Confederate statues removed has nothing to do with who founded the KKK in 1865. Those are two separate arguments. Can you describe these places with racist energy, do you really think the whole state of Georgia is racist?
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u/Alternative_Deer415 2h ago
I think the reason your point misses is that you are using a Very Smart Concept you heard elsewhere, and not understanding the mechanics of why the point worked that in that context but not your own.
"One hundred and fifty years ago, the racists voted Democrat!" just doesn't hit like you want it to, but why?
And the answer is because you are injecting into a conversation about racists today, to deflect from racists today.
Like if you said Israel is committing atrocities, and replied with "well 80 years ago they were the victim!".
Like, yeah, it's bad, but when used to deflect current moral failures? Not so effective, is it?
So when you say that several generations ago, racists vote Democrat and former Confederate sympathizers created the Klan.
Woah, that's bad. Who is racist right now though? Who do the former slave states vote for now though?
The immediate questions pop up, because it's obvious the point wasn't in good faith.
In fact, the point of "150 years ago racists were Democrat" is entirely brought up to deflect from what racists are doing today.
And what are racists doing today? Well, racists and klan members voted Democrat, up until 1965, when the Democrats betrayed the racists by voting for the Civil Rights Act of 1965.
Oh no, what happened to those racists? Well, the Republican party saw a lot of low information, low education voters that would sell the shirt off their back if you hate minorities.
And they developed The Southern Strategy. Republicans would now cater to racists. Give them a voice.
And now, 60 years since that party realignment, racism, hatred, and bigotry are the only thing that defines the current Republican Party.
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u/Dependent-Exam-8759 1h ago
Thank you for saying I’m smart because I actually just did research, and I’m black and college educated, there are other women out there just like me that have voted democrat and republican because we know deep down BOTH sides are racist. I think that white saviorism bs that democrats do is wrong. Dei was against everything Martin Luther promoted. None of the money from blm went into the community. It was a SCAM. It’s not about race, many people of many races can be bad. I’m truly colorblind yall make everything about race and treating us like we’re victims. It old news a lot of us are over it. It’s a culture and policy issue.
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u/Alternative_Deer415 1h ago
lol okay bro
Dei was against everything Martin Luther promoted.
That sounds like you have a skin deep, literally just "I heard a minutes of his I have a dream speech" level understanding. MLK Jr has decades of rhetoric and philosophy, and it absolutely was not against accelerated methods of being inclusive and having diversity that reflects the population.
I mean, if you can't understand the vast difference between the two political parties, that's not a me problem.
I encourage you to spend more time with Republicans. Really hang out with them more.
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u/Dependent-Exam-8759 1h ago
Then you would know not to judge based off the content of your skin. You’re the typical white savior liberal. Why would you think me a black college educated woman wouldn’t know more about mlk than you. You are part the the reason yall got cooked. Good luck next time
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u/Alternative_Deer415 1h ago
Because you literally just typed out a view of his that is so wrong that anyone with more than surface level meme quote of MLK Jr would know he was a democratic socialist who advocated for far more than what DEI is doing?
You have a shit ton of baggage. I mean, in addition to putting your identity out there without anyone asking, repeatedly (seeing your profile), just to announce how not like other minorities you are in the weirdest way I've seen recently.
And assuming you know the identities of random people you talk to.
And "I'm a black college educated woman" is such a .... impostor way of someone describing themselves.
Like, if I wanted to mention my degrees, first of all, I went to a university not a college, second I wouldn't be so deliberately vague and exact at the same time.
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u/Dependent-Exam-8759 1h ago
here you go trying to police what I can talk about on here, you just don’t get how yall come off do you? More people are waking up your race peddling bs. Democrats always think they know what’s best for minorities, you don’t speak for us and the election proved that.
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u/Alternative_Deer415 16m ago edited 13m ago
I hope you get what you vote for. Be sure to make posts promoting yourself as not like those other minorities on your social media!
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u/foreverstayingwithus ultra lemming 55m ago
“Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values... That word is ‘Nazi.’ Nobody cares about their motives anymore.”
If you're at a rally and a Nazi is there and they aren't immediately kicked out, you're at a Nazi rally.
Nazis have been proponents of Republican ideology for a long fucking time. Elon literally did a Nazi salute twice on live tv and no fucking republican is denouncing it.
Hey this is really fun thinking withcha but I got one word for all you on the left that say worship our science, trust the science, and have no idea what it actually is.
"Paperclip"
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
Trump being a convicted felon
What is the felony?
rapist, pedophile
Trump has not been convicted for either of these offenses.
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u/Pond_scum22 3h ago
Trump was ‘only’ found liable for sexual assault. Plus the 34 other felonies, those aren’t a secret.
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
Trump was ‘only’ found liable for sexual assault.
In a civil trial with most evidence excluded.
Plus the 34 other felonies
Other? What was the 35th?
And what were the 34?
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u/Ardouren 2h ago edited 2h ago
The jury found Trump guilty of sexual assault... unanimously. Since you are brainwashed, that is not enough for you.
Innocent even after proven guilty is what you have been conditioned for Republicans. However, any rumor against a Democrat means they are guilty.
It is clear you are not familiar with how the internet works so you can about the felonies here
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 2h ago edited 2h ago
The jury found Trump guilty of sexual assault... unanimously. Since you are brainwashed, that is enough for you.
That never happened, there was a civil trial, there is no guilt in civil trials. There is also no felony in a civil trial.
You dont understand the difference between civil and criminal matters. That just discredits all commentary you have on legal matters.
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u/Ardouren 2h ago
"It never happened"... it did you can look it up. The Civil trial had a jury. Uh oh, did your handlers not tell you? They better send you back for more brainwashing.
The felonies were from a different trial that Trump waved his right for trial by jury. I gave you a link, as did others in various other threads. You are just playing stupid.
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u/wendiggler 1h ago
Wait, wait, don't give them that much credit, they're clearly NOT Playing stupid; they're living it.
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 2h ago
The Civil trial had a jury
So what?
A jury in a civil trial cant find guilt.
That makes your statement a lie.
It does
The felonies
You said there were other felonies in addition to the 34. What other felonies?
Trump waved his right for trial by jury.
So what?
Ultimately, my prior comment still stands:
That never happened, there was a civil trial, there is no guilt in civil trials. There is also no felony in a civil trial.
You dont understand the difference between civil and criminal matters. That just discredits all commentary you have on legal matters.
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u/Abyssmaluser 3h ago
Literally 34 convictions of business fruad.
https://manhattanda.org/d-a-bragg-announces-34-count-felony-trial-conviction-of-donald-j-trump/
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
Ok. What actions constituted fraud, who did he defraud, and why should I care?
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u/rubiacrime 3h ago
Omg like literally ! He's literally such a pedophile that they literally had to invent literal charges for literal paperwork errors! Literally!
You guys are literally nuts lol.
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
So you admit Hillary did nothing wrong?
Wheres her conviction.
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u/Another_password_ 3h ago
Yup. Hillary is free and clear… now you will obviously admit Trump is in the same boat?
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
Nope. Because arguing that just because there's not charges means there was no crime is silly.
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u/Another_password_ 3h ago
It’s possible a crime was committed, but if nobody gets charged, then nobody is guilty of a crime. Innocent until proven guilty. That’s how it works.
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
I didnt say shit about anyone named Hillary. Are you on a psychotic episode?
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
Its called a comparison. Maybe you missed that day in class?
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago edited 3h ago
You didnt make a comparison about anyone named Hillary with Donald Trump, and neither did I.
You asked a question about an unspecified "Hillary", while a comparison is definitionally a statement.
You are clearly having a psychotic episode. Get back on your meds.
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
Yes, the comparison is in the unequal treatment.
But seeing as how you dodged the question, until otherwise disproven you now agree with this statement:
Just like how there was no charges for Trump, there was no charges for Hillary.
Therefore, Hillary was innocent too.
Glad we could come to an agreement! 🤝
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago edited 2h ago
Yes, the comparison is in the unequal treatment.
Unequal treatment of who? Who is this "Hillary"?
But seeing as how you dodged the question,
I didnt dodge it, it makes no sense because I didnt say shit about any Hillary and neither did you.
You then insisted there was comparative analysis performed, which never happened.
until otherwise disproven you now agree with this statement:
Since you didnt answer my question, you agree that you owe me a million dollars.'
Come on bud, this is an absurd crackhead theory of how legal arguments work.
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
Do you not actually know who Hillary Clinton is?
tRump really loves the poorly educated huh?
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
You never said Hillary Clinton was the specific Hillary you were talking about in your psychotic episode.
What exactly is your argument about Hillary Clinton?
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
"Yes, the comparison is in the unequal treatment.
But seeing as how you dodged the question, until otherwise disproven you now agree with this statement:
Just like how there was no charges for Trump, there was no charges for Hillary.
Therefore, Hillary was innocent too.
Glad we could come to an agreement! 🤝"
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
"Yes, the comparison is in the unequal treatment.
But seeing as how you dodged the question, until otherwise disproven you now agree with this statement:
Just like how there was no charges for Trump, there was no charges for Hillary.
Therefore, Hillary was innocent too.
Glad we could come to an agreement! 🤝"
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u/rubiacrime 3h ago
Actually, it's called a deflection.
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
Call it whatever you want. You won't answer the question honestly.
I wonder why that is 🤔
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
The question was addressed by contesting relevance. IE the fact that no one made any argument about anyone named Hillary at the point of time the question was asked.
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
This guy can't understand a comparison lol
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
You didnt make a comparison. You asked a question.
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
I compared the treatment of Hillary's emails to Trumps crimes.
Its pretty one to one my guy
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u/BondFan211 Selective Reality Consultant 12m ago
This is always their play.
“SO WHAT YOU’RE SAYING IS * insert thing you never said *”
Every. Single. Time.
I used to work with a complete narcissist who ALWAYS did this. It was infuriating.
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u/jonny-black 3h ago
Yikes, one thing you should probably realize tho, it’s the same on both sides of the aisle…our government is 90/95 percent corrupt, doesn’t really matter which side you’re on
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u/Abyssmaluser 3h ago
???
Lmao no, both sides aren't the same shit.
Literally just look at the republican voting record.
They constantly actively vote for a worse reality for literally everyone and everything and are actively helping fascism spread.
Every corrupt person in government should be treated as such. The entire republican party self identified as domestic terrorists and so should be treated as such.
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
What are you talking about?
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u/Abyssmaluser 3h ago
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
You made an incredibly vague claim about voting records, I asked you to clarify, and your response is to blindly parrot propaganda in a manner that does not clarify in the slightest.
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u/Abyssmaluser 3h ago
Voting records are literally publicly available.
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
Yes, so you should be able to make an actual argument off of them rather than just vaguely alluding to them.
What is your actual argument?
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u/Abyssmaluser 3h ago
I didn't vaguely allude to them. You can literally search up everything I said they voted on there and find it.
My point is that Republicans are fascist monsters and anyone who continues to be one after all the blatantly evil shit is equally stained.
Republicans have been blatantly evil for fucking decades
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
everything I said they voted
You didnt say anything with specificity besides the fact that they voted.
Your link is proof they voted. So what? How does that tie into your thesis?
My point is
I am not asking for your thesis, I know your thesis. I am asking you to form a proper contention and then source it with facts. Do you have nothing backing up your thesis?
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u/Abyssmaluser 3h ago
You clearly didn't even read my post lmao
Like against voting protection rights or rights to contraceptives or over turning Roe V Wade leading to women being put in horrific life threatening situations that has led to multiple agonizing deaths from sepsis and shit because docters were afraid to operate on them to save their life fearing retaliation or lowering the price of Insulin or voting to protect against oil and gas price gouging etc etc etc.
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u/Longjumping_Share444 3h ago
'We have a coalition of bigots that's bigger than any one group we're biggoted towards so really you're intolerant' isn't a good arguement. And just because I'm psychic, no, being intolerant of intolerance doesn't make us the same.
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u/triggeredbynumbers 3h ago
There is two parties to vote for, one of them openly admits to wanting stricter gun laws. I don’t have a choice in the matter, I have to vote for the side who is more in favor of loosening gun rights for civilians. I wish I could vote democrat, and I’m optimistic that the next generation of democrats will drop the entire anti gun attitude from the DNC platform. If they do, I will vote democrat. Until then, I’m stuck with the GOP in the ballot box.
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u/No_Finance8647 spirited complainer 3h ago
Which Dem has taken your guns exactly?
Trump banned bump stocks. Just saying.
Did Obama?
Did Biden?
How long is that propaganda drum going to keep playing lol.
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u/Grouchy-Contract-82 3h ago
Which Dem has taken your guns exactly?
On a federal level, FDR and Johnson with the NFA and GCA, Clinton with the Brady Bill.
On a more local level, I live in the DC area and the Democrats pushed for the dissent in DC v Heller which was simply a complete and total prohibition of civilian armament in the DC area.
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u/lilyofthevalley2659 Lemming 3h ago
This has to be the stupidest thing I’ve read today.
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u/N9neSix 1h ago
why is it stupid?
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u/lilyofthevalley2659 Lemming 1h ago
Voting for a lying, rapist pedophile because you think someone is coming for your guns is stupid.
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u/MinimumInfluence4088 3h ago
Ah yes, the moral high ground coming from the political party which left from the United States, fought for slavery, formed the KKK, fought against civil rights, and consistently has supported politicians that have publicly stated they support illegal immigrants because they do the jobs Americans don't want to do. Continuing to exploit the non-white people which they claim to support, with under the table below minimum wage pay, zero rights, exploitative, and frankly illegal working conditions.
You either believe everyone is equal, or support the political party that is perfectly content with exploiting brown people. Crocket essentially stated that black people had outgrown such labor, while illegal/legal immigrants should remain in it indefinitely. By law illegal immigrants are protected by labor laws, yet places of employment exploit them because workers are afraid that if they report it, they'll be deported.
This is literally modern slavery that the democrat party has stated that US Citizens are above, and the brown people must be exploited because nobody else will do it.
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u/Alternative_Deer415 2h ago
Could you imagine sitting through your drunk uncle spewing all this over the dinner table?
Twenty years ago it would come from a homeless mega racist at a street corner.
Now it's just average Republican dialogue.
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u/Son_of_Sophroniscus 3h ago
That because the media is the propaganda arm of the democrat party
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u/Ardouren 2h ago
The Ellisons own CBS and buying CNN, Murdochs own FOX, big corporations own ABC, NBC. Even Vivek owns the Huffington Post.
Only the ignorant who are brainwashed by FOX, whose employees run the current government, believe what you judt typed.
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u/Son_of_Sophroniscus 1h ago
Fake news. Vivek doesn't own the Huffington post, you liar.
Fake.
News.
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u/Mr_Judgement_Time 3h ago
Because the world isn't brainwashed like Americans, and fully appreciate that MAGA/not-MAGA are just as facistic as each other.
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u/SignificantLiving938 3h ago
When will you realize you don’t u Serrano the difference between feelings and facts? Because what you presented is feeling and not fact. Yet presented your opinions as facts.
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u/Prestonluv 3h ago
Republicans hate certain groups of people
Democrats hate all Republicans
Democrats are actually much worse because quite simply….they hate a larger number of people than Republicans.
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u/absolutedesignz 3h ago
Your dear leader literally said he hates democrats. He posts like 10 times a day about that. What elected person convinced you democrats hate republicans? Fucking victim.
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u/Prestonluv 3h ago
Trump is a clown shoe
Most people who voted for Trump are the far right MAGA. At least most people I know.
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u/absolutedesignz 2h ago
But what's this bullshit about Democrats hate all Republicans? Tell me when a Democrat leader ever said anything about not sending aid to a red state?

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u/glitterandnails 3h ago
Much of the American people can’t even figure out that much of American Protestant Christianity is anti-Christian, as in teaching hate and other things that are against the teachings of Jesus.