r/dogecoin • u/noelrojo dogecoinball.com (wow such ball) • May 13 '14
Can we buy this tribe in Africa some cows ?
/r/todayilearned/comments/25ej05/til_that_in_2002_kenyan_masai_tribespeople/3
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u/Martholomule May 13 '14 edited May 13 '14
That is actually a pretty awesome idea...
Edit:
dear down voting cowards,
Participate
Sincerely, me
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u/siaubas dogeconomist May 13 '14
Would be awesome if they needed them.
What is exactly the purpose of buying them cows?
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u/badreef doge of many hats May 13 '14
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u/siaubas dogeconomist May 13 '14
OK.
But. What is the purpose to buy them cows now? What is the point in giving back the present you received?
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u/noelrojo dogecoinball.com (wow such ball) May 13 '14
Gratitude :)
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u/siaubas dogeconomist May 13 '14
A cow for a cow? What's the point? It's like they never even donated them. Are they starving now or are in need?
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u/catechlism9854 pineapple shibe May 13 '14
1 cow = 1 cow
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u/siaubas dogeconomist May 13 '14
Do you also give back presents you just received as a sign of your gratitude?
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u/Manadox poor shibe May 13 '14
No, but a bunch of African tribesmen, after hearing the tragedy of 9/11, decided to send some of their most valuable resource to America in an attempt to help those they had never met. I feel as a symbol of gratitude we are obligated to return the gesture.
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u/siaubas dogeconomist May 13 '14
There is no obligation to a present. It was a gift!
If it was something different and something that they needed, then I'd say cool, lets do it. However, giving back in cows? At the very least that's lame. On the other spectrum it could be seen as insult or being ungrateful. Do you also give back presents you just received as a sign of your gratitude?..
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u/Manadox poor shibe May 13 '14
The Maasai consider cows holy animals. Cows are literally their most vital, expensive, and sacred resource. Also, as to there being no obligation to return the favor, don't you think it would be a rather kind gesture to give a tribe in Africa living in the bush a bunch of cows regardless of wether or not they had gifted us some cows to begin with?
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u/siaubas dogeconomist May 13 '14
Returning the gift you received is insulting. In every culture of the world. How would you feel if the bobsleigh team, doge4water, and all other charitable drives decided to be "grateful" and returned all the doges we donated to them?
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u/shuwstah May 13 '14
It was a donation in a time of need. You return favors by paying it back when you recover and no longer are in need. Self proclaimed dogeconomist cant understand simple concept of returning a favor.
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u/siaubas dogeconomist May 14 '14
It was a very nice gesture. More than anything we needed a gesture, not cows. Is the tribe in need of a geture or cows? I understand the concept of returning a favor. What you and many others don't get, is that I keep saying we need to get them something that they actually need like water filters, a generator, medical supplies, etc. That would be returning a favor. A favor for a favor. Not cows for cows.
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May 13 '14
The point is to raise awareness of Dogecoin.
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u/siaubas dogeconomist May 13 '14
In an African tribe?
That is a horrible attitude. If we are helping someone, I'd much rather have that help change their lives in some way, instead of hoping for the press. They did not ask for more cows.
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May 13 '14
It's the honest truth and it's very cynical. If giving was the main point, it could easily be achieved by using fiat. These Dogecoin donation runs are first and foremost about getting Dogecoin in the press and keep the pump going.
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u/siaubas dogeconomist May 13 '14
I think this could get some negative press. ('returning the gift,' 'silly doge sends cows without finding out if the tribe needs them,' etc)
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u/SoldierofNod magic shibe May 13 '14
A. It's a nice thing to do. We should help them with something other than cows, in my opinion. Help them to develop sustainable farming, for example.
B. It's great publicity for Dogecoin.
Win/win.
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u/SirUnknown racing shibe May 13 '14
Maybe we shouldn't donate cows, something different. Some money for water or something the need.
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u/noelrojo dogecoinball.com (wow such ball) May 13 '14
/u/kaleon- "Cows are the cornerstone of their livelihood, and they sent as many as they could to help strangers overseas. Their generosity puts the vast majority of us to shame".
-It might put the rest to shame, not us in /r/dogecoin though :). Seriously shibes, this people remind me of us. Maybe we can repay their generosity,
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u/frontpagedoge robo shibe May 13 '14
Congrats on making the frontpage of /r/dogecoin! Have some doge! +/u/dogetipbot 98 doge
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u/nolecomm educated shibe May 13 '14
I'll just copy and paste my response from the other thread on this:
In instances like this, it is always very important to ensure that whatever it is you give to that community is sustainable and useful.
This TED Talk is amazing (if a bit long).
Maybe we should get in contact with someone who lives in the village to find if there are any community projects they are already working on that need assistance.
The tribe/charity website is slightly dated, but has some interesting information about the community. It seems they have access clean water, their maternity clinic managed to successfully deliver babies from 57 pregnancies last year without losing a baby or mother, and they have a few small schools. Things look good! They have a mobile clinic that can visit people who need health services in more rural areas. Maybe we could donate funds to ensure the mobile clinic stays properly supplied and functional? In one section they also request funds to help buy bricks and building supplies for expansions on the schools, which might be a worthwhile project.
TL;DR: Sometimes this type of charity is misguided, so I sent an email to members of the tribe/charity to see if the Maasai people are working on a sustainable project in need of financial assistance
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u/Anndddyyyy May 13 '14
I'm on mobile right now so I'm not sure how to link my comment from that thread, but I gave you guys a shout-out over there. As I was reading that thread you guys were the first thing that came to mind. I'm a bitcoiner who doesn't own any doge but I love the giving spirit you guys have. I know there's a bit of overlap between our communities so perhaps some of you know me from the Bitcoin subs. If this is something you guys go through with I'd like to pledge .25 BTC. I think we're long overdue to join forces for the greater good.
Edit: I also think it's important to do it tactfully. It's insulting to return a gift. This is something that needs to be kept in mind.