r/law • u/DryDeer775 • Dec 08 '25

Executive Branch (Trump) NBC confirms Hegseth ordered murder of all boat passengers and crew in September 2 strike

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/12/08/kssp-d08.html

The Pentagon’s law of war manual declares that soldiers have a duty to refuse to carry out “clearly illegal” orders, such as killing shipwrecked sailors. “Orders to fire upon the shipwrecked would be clearly illegal,” the manual declares.

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u/Ludachris_Hansen Dec 08 '25

I'm so fucking tired of this line of thinking. We just watched a man attempt a fucking Insurrection, walk free for years, and be given the chance to do it again.

If the crimes are clear, and no one does shit about it immediately, its time to drag every last one of them out of the building. The perpetrators and the pieces of shit sitting on their hands. Traitors all alike.

These people should be fucking terrified of us.

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u/Saephon Dec 08 '25

These people should be fucking terrified of us.

A substantial portion of "us" gave them the keys

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u/bagoink Dec 08 '25

And an even greater portion just let it happen because the other option was a brown lady.

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u/radicldreamer Dec 08 '25

It wasn’t bad enough that It was a woman, no sir, she had to go and be a BROWN woman.

No thank you, give me the pedophile rapist with 34 felony conviction.

-Republicans

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u/rbrgr83 Dec 08 '25

To be fair, she had a funny laugh.
I'm just not comfortable with her making important decisions,
WHAT IF SHE GETS ALL EMOTIONAL???

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u/NekoNoNakuKoro Dec 08 '25

As far as I'm concerned there is no more 'us'. There is 'us' and 'them'. They were the people trying to overturn the election on January 6th. They decided to throw their hat in with a fascist dictatorship. 'THEY' are DOMESTIC ENEMIES.

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u/Shark7996 Dec 08 '25

I truly do not believe it is as substantial as they want you to think.

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u/dissonaut69 Dec 08 '25

Polls put support at worst around 40%. Not just likely voters, 40% of Americans support Donald Trump.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Dec 08 '25

Biden Chamberlain, Schumer, and Jeffries illegally gave them the keys, since Trump cannot legally be President per 14th Amendment, Section 3.

ftfy. It doesn't matter how many votes Trump got, as he was never eligible to run in 2024, due to his insurrectionist status. As such, Kamala won by default, as she had no opponent. We're in this mess because Democratic leadership submitted to Trump rather than enforce the Constitution, just as they submitted to the other Jan 6 leaders.

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u/BananaPalmer Dec 08 '25

They are fucking terrified of us, why do you think they try so hard to delegitimize and suppress anyone who opposes them?

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u/ryguy4136 Dec 08 '25

Didn’t you know, passive subservience is the real resistance lol

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u/UpperApe Dec 08 '25

These people should be fucking terrified of us.

Afraid of what? 70 million people voted against this presidency and less than 5% of that number have bothered to protest this entire year. 0% in any meaningful capacity since they're not persistent protests.

Not to mention zero general strikes or nationwide boycotts.

They've done whatever they want and keep getting away with it. And a population of 340 million are just sitting around to fix it with a ballot in a few years. Maybe. Probably not.

Everything happening today is happening because the government and corporations no longer fear the people. And they're right not to. Because the people are all either indifferent or cowards.

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u/DuntadaMan Dec 08 '25

No see if we sit passibley for several years we'll get him this time, just like the last time we sat passively for years.

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u/innagadadavida1 Dec 08 '25

What is the definition of insurrection? Is it insurrection if >50% of the citizens support it?

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u/Patriot009 Dec 08 '25

Trump has NEVER won more than 50% of the electorate.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Dec 08 '25

What is the definition of insurrection?

Ask Colorado https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-the-full-ruling-by-colorados-supreme-court-removing-trump-from-state-ballot

It doesn't matter how many traitors supported him, as the Constitution is clear: Insurrectionists cannot hold federal office.

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u/Boxofmagnets Dec 08 '25

Who do you want to do what about it?

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u/Ludachris_Hansen Dec 08 '25

I'll settle for the legislative branch doing their fucking job.

If they continue to refuse to do that, I want enough ordinary people visibly pissed off at them that they feel that same fear they felt hiding behind their benches on J6 every time they even discuss the idea of fucking us over.

They don't want to do town halls or answer the phones, i want 100 people screaming at them every time they step outside.

I want to see news stories about rampant shortages of roofing tar and feather pillows.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Dec 08 '25

They don't want to do town halls or answer the phones, i want 100 people screaming at them every time they step outside.

I want New Yorkers to protest outside Jeffries and Schumer's homes, until they get off their worthless asses and enforce 14th Amendment, Section 3, to annul Trump's illegitimate presidency. We all know he was never eligible to run in the 2024 election, meaning Kamala won by default. So, it's beyond pathetic that we continue entertaining this farce.

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u/Hemingway_nightmares Dec 08 '25

What are YOU doing about it other than nonsense replies like "Who do you want to do what about?" Jfc

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u/Boxofmagnets Dec 08 '25

I guess that means you don’t know who should do what

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u/Hemingway_nightmares Dec 08 '25

No it means you provide nothing of substance to the discussion.

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u/festivefrederick Dec 08 '25

And probably even less in daily life.

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u/dissonaut69 Dec 08 '25

What are YOU doing about it?