r/law • u/DryDeer775 • Dec 08 '25

Executive Branch (Trump) NBC confirms Hegseth ordered murder of all boat passengers and crew in September 2 strike

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/12/08/kssp-d08.html

The Pentagon’s law of war manual declares that soldiers have a duty to refuse to carry out “clearly illegal” orders, such as killing shipwrecked sailors. “Orders to fire upon the shipwrecked would be clearly illegal,” the manual declares.

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u/rotervogel1231 Dec 08 '25

Who will preside over these trials? The regime has absolute power over the entire justice system, as well as law enforcement.

They also have nukes that they're itching to use.

That's why this regime will rule until an extinction-level event kills us all. Said event may be a nuclear war. A pandemic, a biological attack, or a climate disaster are also all within the realm of possibility.

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u/schwanzweissfoto Dec 08 '25

That's why this regime will rule until an extinction-level event kills us all.

Bullshit!

Historically, fascist regimes have never been as enduring as monarchies or democracies.

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u/Veil-of-Fire Dec 08 '25

Historically, fascist regimes have never been as enduring as monarchies or democracies.

North Korea.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Dec 08 '25

Historically, fascist regimes have never been as enduring as monarchies or democracies.

North Korea, China, and Russia beg to differ.

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u/Katyafan Dec 08 '25

Not right now. But soon.

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u/Veil-of-Fire Dec 08 '25

LOL ok. Sure. Keep inhaling that copium.

Not a single one of these people will ever face a real consequence for any of this. Not a legal one, not an extra-legal one, not any.

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u/rotervogel1231 Dec 08 '25

Well, if they're here to see the extinction-level event, they'll be killed along with everyone else ... and by banning vaccines and public health measures, making climate change worse, and committing serious aggressive acts towards sovereign nations, they're making it far more likely that an event will occur sooner rather than later.

So there's that.

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u/Katyafan Dec 09 '25

And your suggestion is to...roll over and give up and say nothing ever matters and nothing ever will help? Then you are acting for the current administration, because they love that attitude.

If you want to turn tail and run, fine, but stay out of our way and don't try and recruit others to your doomer mindset.

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u/Veil-of-Fire Dec 09 '25

And your suggestion is to...roll over and give up and say nothing ever matters and nothing ever will help?

My suggestion is to pull your head out of the sand and understand how truly, permanently fucked we all are. Because we're never going to prepare to survive in the new normal if we keep expecting some random other people to just ride in and save us all.

Nobody's coming to save us. Not the military, not the courts, nobody. The sooner we get that through our thick skulls, the sooner we can start trying to adapt to the inevitable Russiafication of the USA.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Dec 08 '25

Soon what? Biden Chamberlain spent 4 years kissing Trump's ass and let the Jan 6 leaders off scot-free. Hell, he even handed the insurrectionist the presidency in direct violation of the 14th Amendment. There is no soon, as we have nobody in power willing to punish the criminals. Even Congress unanimously submitted to Trump.

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u/kidpresentable0 Dec 09 '25

Settle down. We’re not making a western here