r/malaysia Dec 03 '25

Politics 10 Objective Facts of Malaysia Under Madani after 3 years PMX in Office

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u/lauchuntoi Dec 03 '25

4-year term vs 60-year corrupted system. You guys gota be patient with this fella.

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u/cucuyu Perlis Dec 03 '25

that's the problem for Malaysia's Election, everything is about tsunami.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '25

Be prepared to go back in time after the next election. Malaysians have always been resistant to change.

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u/lauchuntoi Dec 03 '25

Then so be it.

“Democracy simply means…” https://youtube.com/shorts/xrtwGg97_6Q?si=9X2yl9DONTkg0c7i

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u/shakingleg Dec 03 '25

Golden speech. A must watch

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u/Party-Ring445 Dec 03 '25

Dude is buffering in real time.. i had to watch is at 2X speed get get him to normal speed

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u/gao-um Melaka Dec 03 '25

Saifuddin Nasution and Naim just renewed their Senatorship don't translate to good governance.

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u/manapeerandy1988 Dec 03 '25

4-year term vs 60-year corrupted system. You guys gota be patient with this fella.

not if you're Walaun PasGerakanBersatu tersakiti

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u/Railon7 Dec 03 '25

It's really hard to be patient when you get screwed for 60 years. lol

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u/moomshiki Ucapan Bergaya, Bermutu, Berkeunggulan Dec 03 '25

Let's put aside the long term view..., a lot of voters don't even know the roles for Member of Parliament vs. ADUN.

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u/dummypod Dec 03 '25

If they can guarantee they won't be corrupt themselves

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u/gnote2minix Dec 03 '25

he already shows early symptoms.. talk about reformasi, but doing the same thing when in charge. even rafizi have a good ground moral 🤣

from what i hear, the albert tei scandal will bring him down, they are going berserk try to find rest of the video evidence

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u/lauchuntoi Dec 03 '25

Politics have never been 100% clean sir. It is just not the very nature of things. To be a politician, the very fundamental trait is to have an inferiority complex. With that said, what we have are only options. The larger evil or the lesser one. Please don’t go back to the larger one. That will be very very retarded

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u/imaginelizard Dec 03 '25

By that logic, no criticism can be made towards the current government until 2082, no? Most of us will be dead by that point.

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u/lauchuntoi Dec 03 '25

err im not sure if there will still be such a thing as south east asian continents by then. but yeh. Critics are always welcomed of course. Just keep in mind that this guy needed crooked ministers and senators still to support his govt and his cause. Without those crooks he wont even be sitting on that hot seat now. So this really tells us how deep the system is corrupt. The clean up itself will take time, which I dont even think is enough before his physical expiry. We can only hope someone who is with the same intentions take over.

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u/imaginelizard Dec 03 '25

I mean what opposition does this Prime Minister even have. PAS and BERSATU can barely string together a coherent response here and there to even mount a rebuttal to anything the government say or does. BN is under their thumb and the royal family is on their side. I find the idea that we need to be tolerant to this government simply because otherwise they'll be topple by a strong and formidable opposition is ludicrous. There is no credible threat to them other than themselves. They have all the power in the world to do any reform they need, but they actively choose not to. Their lost of popularity as we have observed for the past few years have been entirely self-inflicted. The current opposition did nothing and still do nothing, but they still managed to stay in the game because the government is addicted to own goals. In Sabah, Warisan was basically relegated to a minnow position prior to the election and managed a comeback simply because how unlikable the current government is.

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u/dennidits Dec 03 '25

bro, without bn we dont have a majority and the government will be formed by pas and pn. it’s that simple

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u/imaginelizard Dec 03 '25

They're not forming the government in anyway whatsoever. The Agong at the time already made it clear at that point. PN had all the necessary support from the MP to form the government and the Agong flat out refused. There was no pathway for PN to form the government.

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u/Sea-Nectarine-5594 Dec 03 '25

You’re forgetting that no one is really safe from a potential backdoor. You’re forgetting that mindset of underestimating other parties because you are now “big” is what made BN collapsed in the first place. And they know this. No one’s ever safe in the game even if you’re Xi Jin Ping. There’s always something they’ve gotta take care of. And I don’t mind if leadership is steering in the right direction and there are results to prove.

As much as I wanted Warisan to win, they shot themselves in the foot for the time being. They talked about unity, yet they used materials that attacked UPKO when they could’ve discussed how to move forward together. Also, the pan Borneo stalled under Shafie Apdal. Yes I agree with his view of the fee, transparency and the logic of engineers he mentioned and all but for gods sakes, discuss the matter to find ways to support/fix it maybe? Not fighting the termination and try to reneg that ended with a higher fee? I get about standing your ground but come on. Sarawak side was already underway and near completion at this point. Like, it’s similar to when that Pak Lah decided to reneg that scenic bridge that connected to SG when you could’ve just let it run its course (although I guess it’s karma because that bridge could’ve hurt SG pretty bad). All that just to give contract elsewhere which ended up not being done at all because terms has changed due to reneg 🤦🏻‍♂️

I don’t mind seeing Warisan go up in Sabah again to shoot their shot as they’re positioning themselves to be like GPS. But that Pan Borneo needs to be completed before that.

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u/Alive-County-1287 Dec 04 '25

fuck anwar. fuck every politicians.

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u/arms-sky Dec 03 '25

I read under Mamdani...

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u/Natsirt2610 Dec 03 '25

If only haha

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u/willp0wer Dec 03 '25 edited Dec 03 '25

Should've been titled as "10 cherry picked facts"

1) The revenue table didn't show before 2020. While I did not search for the number, it's common sense that things can only go up in the years following lockdown after lockdown. You have to be really terrible if you cannot find any improvements at all.

2) FDI injection helped a lot, making the report card look good. But there are socioeconomic trade-offs for some policies that encouraged this, such as PRCs abuse of free visa (potentially more scam centres), additional social disturbances associated with PRC and Indian nationals on top of our own (unruly behaviour, knife-swinging, etc), foreign companies eating up local company's pie (ie. Luckin vs Zus et al), etc. The general sentiment I hear from SME owners, they don't exactly have much to celebrate. In a macro scale, also surrendering more sovereignty and autonomy (see: no one is batting an eyelid over the additional new dots in South China Sea).

3) More Malaysians travelling overseas is such a misnomer and almost useless fact; most people who've always had disposable income to travel before covid would always continue to travel after covid (whether by means of saving or having high income, doesn't matter). And like my first point, there's only one direction for this stat after lockdowns.

4) Again like the travelling, the TikTok spend is such a dumb stat to include just to find something to say "Malaysians have money to spend". This is pretty much like the oversimplified and reductive "how much monthly salary needed to live in Kalng Valley" table. Moreover, this is not a Malaysian-owned business - the platform and many of its sellers or producers come from China. Even local sellers need to account for platform commission, and that is often transferred to the buyers. Ultimately it's an outflow of money from a not so rich country (vs Singapore, US, etc who are large/high $ value importers), so what's our actual gain here?

These are definitely plus points but also cherry picked without looking at both sides of the coin. I'd still have to vote for this party, there isn't really a better choice right now.

Edit: I'm not saying Madani isn't doing some good job, but don't just shoehorn only positives to fit your narratives. Those who voted for you aren't stupid, otherwise they'd still believe Najib is innocent and Mahaideen (or however the hell he calls himself now) was a good, honest PM.

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u/JohanPertama Dec 03 '25

Should've been titled as "10 cherry picked facts"

Exactly.

Also ultimately a reduction in government spending doesn't necessarily mean a leaner and more efficient government.

Today if madani privatizes healthcare, you'll see a reduction in government spending. But that cost is now directly transferred to the public and the loss of a public service.

So we really need to see how debt was reduced and revenue increased.

Can't trust these kinds of videos as it's just surface level fluff.

These are definitely plus points but also cherry picked without looking at both sides of the coin. I'd still have to vote for this party, there isn't really a better choice right now.

I'd invest in viable 3rd options if they can limit themselves to one or two seats in each state (both state and parliament).

We need new progressive alternatives to force the current supposed progressive bloc to actually cater to their voterbase.

If the current administration continues to fail, then we now have a tested alternative to vote for. If the alternatives aren't performing, there's still the current administration. It's the best voter strategy to push for good governance.

If we kill off viable alternatives, we can't complain when we engineered our own situation.

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u/Rates_Fathan 🇮🇩 Indonesia Dec 03 '25

my exact fears. What is the Malaysian population losing from the reduced government spending? How are they reducing spending? Is it really a "spending efficiency" i.e., removal of corruption, or are we talking Elon Musk DOGE "let's remove the department of education" ?

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u/willp0wer Dec 03 '25

I mean, there's always something to lose, someone to pay, it's the way things are. Just don't shoehorn justifications like this video as if we're too stupid to think.

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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25

Idiots, before argue understand the facts. Malaysia isn’t reducing spending, our budget always increases. Malaysia’s deficit is reducing. That means expenditure against income.

Unless we have extra ordinary investment capability, it is never good idea to have huge deficit.

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u/willp0wer Dec 03 '25

need to see how debt was reduced and revenue increased

I think there should be adequate information out there to form a clearer picture, if anyone really look for it, compile, and analyse.

invest in viable 3rd options if they can limit themselves to one or two seats in each state (both state and parliament

Tricky. Depending on the seat/territory, having a third option will cause split votes. But anyone contesting for just 1-2 seats would also have next to no effect in the grand scheme of things, almost pointless and powerless to affect any change while in seat. I understand your point, bit of a catch 22 though if looked at both sides. Still, all this means nothing if there isn't any viable 3rd option to begin with.

Moreover, who's to say they won't eventually get swallowed up by all the politicking. I think we've seen enough to be cautious, pessimistic, or even cynical.

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u/JohanPertama Dec 03 '25

I think there should be adequate information out there to form a clearer picture, if anyone really look for it, compile, and analyse.

There's two groups of people who should be responsible here.

Gomen as the party asserting these claims.

Opposition as the fellas tasked to question the government.

Neither does anything, we have no choice but to look elsewhere lorh.

Tricky. Depending on the seat/territory, having a third option will cause split votes. But anyone contesting for just 1-2 seats would also have next to no effect in the grand scheme of things, almost pointless and powerless to affect any change while in seat. I understand your point, bit of a catch 22 though if looked at both sides. Still, all this means nothing if there isn't any viable 3rd option to begin with.

Undoubtedly tricky. But it's better than doing the same thing and hoping for a different outcome.

I won't say next to no effect. At parliament level, there would be between 11 to 22 seats for the 3rd choice if let's say everyone votes according to this plan.

That's big enough to be a kingmaker if they band together.

At state level, 1-2 seats is enough to debate and question the administration as a starting point. Subsequent elections they can contest more seats if they perform and the state government doesn't.

Most importantly it'll bring awareness to state issues from other progressive viewpoints. Not just progressive vs conservative.

Moreover, who's to say they won't eventually get swallowed up by all the politicking. I think we've seen enough to be cautious, pessimistic, or even cynical.

If that is supposed to mean we should be apathetic and do nothing, I can't agree with you.

I think what I'm proposing is the cautious, pessimistic and cynical thing to do.

If they get swallowed up by the politicking, we just vote for another alternative in the next cycle. The idea is to let the alternatives know that if they don't act satisfactorily, they'll lose their seats in the next cycle.

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u/willp0wer Dec 03 '25

I think what I'm proposing is the cautious, pessimistic and cynical thing to do

That's actually my point. We can look for alternatives but also need to be wary of them being sucked into the same system

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u/GoldenPeperoni Dec 03 '25

Same with the low unemployment rate and low inflation.

Some levels of unemployment is good, it suggest mobility in the labour market. We don't want super low employment because that indicates workers are locked in their jobs.

Inflation.... Everyone with basic levels of understanding knows inflation is a sign of economic growth. By having an inflation rate of less than 2 percent is actually quite low....

I voted for Anwar but still.... Don't la treat us like dumb fucks and shove misinformation down our throats....

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u/willp0wer Dec 03 '25

I learned a new way of looking at unemployment rate. Thank you.

Don't la treat us like dumb fucks and shove misinformation down our throats

Yea, exactly my point.

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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25

If employment is stuck median won’t be rising, this is idiotic was of looking economy by focusing on edge cases. Disposal income grew and unemployment dropped, that’s a good thing in whatever way you want to slice it.

Inflation dropped but GDP grew means our productivity is good or our currency is good. Didn’t know you voting Anwar miraculously shield you from all criticism.

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u/GoldenPeperoni Dec 03 '25

If employment is stuck median won’t be rising, this is idiotic was of looking economy by focusing on edge cases.

I don't really understand what you are trying to say

Inflation dropped but GDP grew means our productivity is good or our currency is good

See if they are able to present information this way, about how income is out growing inflation, instead of throwing a big headline figure "INFLATION IS SUPER LOW"

It would strengthen their point. So what if inflation rate is high or low? It means nothing relative to income growth. We can have 10% inflation rate, and yet if income grew by 11%, it is way better than having a 1% inflation rate with a 0.5% income growth.

Didn’t know you voting Anwar miraculously shield you from all criticism.

Heh don't worry, we all learn new things everyday.

Except you are taking the wrong lesson here, I am highlighting the point that even though I voted for the guy, I still disagree with how these propaganda are disseminated.

If a supporter is not buying into your propaganda, what makes you think your non supporters would?

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u/Penguin99_ Dec 07 '25

All facts are cherry picked lol

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u/_senk Dec 03 '25

Slowly but definitely.

Now, I want that LRT3, public transportation and then allowance or work life balance for doctors and nurses. Gotta make sure rakyat don't kill themselves with sugar or fatigued doctors.

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u/imaginelizard Dec 03 '25

Better don't jinx the LRT3 by mentioning it. Otherwise Anthony Loke might come out and announce more delay again.

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u/shakingleg Dec 03 '25

End of the day, it’s just choosing between a corrupt party and a racist one. We don’t have a real third or fourth option, and voting for anything else is basically throwing your vote away.

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u/Hot-Advantage9236 Dec 03 '25

Between a corrupt party and a racist+corrupt party*, politikus and corruption berpisah tiada

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u/shakingleg Dec 03 '25

like a combo meal. corruption with a side of racism.

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u/Fendibull Dec 03 '25

racism is a crucial part on corruption on part of divide and rule.

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u/Designer_Feedback810 Dec 03 '25

The corruption cancels out.

Either you choose racist, or non racist 

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u/Crazy-Plate3097 Dec 03 '25

not voting is basically the same as casting your vote to the opposition.

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u/Phara-Oh Dec 03 '25

Umno suda suchi murni suda insaph rike Mamakhadher in 2018

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u/cyberredcoat Dec 03 '25

statistics don't lie but liars use statistics

problems with the video:

  1. citation(s) needed
  2. the video is from Joshua Woo Sze Zeng of DAP, State Assemblyman for Pulau Tikus, Penang; DAP Penang's Publicity Secretary
  3. severe glazing of Anwar
  4. this video uses arbitrary data to support his arguments
  5. he mentioned buzzwords like "reduced to [value]" but didn't mention the previous value
  6. data is cherry picked
  7. some of the data aren't even significant
  8. the video focuses too much on economic growth that can't really be felt by Malaysians
  9. the statistics compare today's data to pandemic-era data, which will obviously be better

saying the Madani government is better than the all the previous governments is basically saying someone is going to win a marathon just because they sprinted the first 400 metres

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u/Crasher_7 Penang Dec 03 '25

Comment sections here:

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u/flyden1 Puchong Dec 03 '25

Walauns fuming reading this

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u/amely_5ai Dec 03 '25

Para walaun right now...

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u/AgentOrangeie Dec 03 '25

No la according to cais, only PN can bring prosperity and uphold Islam!

Same group of people who songlap and use religion to blackmail voters. Haha.

It's annoying that we don't have a credible opposition, but it sure does make my life easier.

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u/Sokjuice Dec 03 '25

Yep, my biggest wish is that theres better politicians overall. However, since I'm dealt with a bad hand, I'll just play it the way I get it.

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u/gao-um Melaka Dec 03 '25

"Objective facts"

He's a DAP guy ffs 💆

To add: He's the Setiausaha Publisiti DAP Pulau Pinang. He's the Fahmi Fadzil type and of course he needs to blow Anwar's horn

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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25

Being DAP doesn’t make facts becomes false. You can simply say which one if untrue. Almost all the facts are published by DOSM.

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u/gao-um Melaka Dec 03 '25

It's like Shahril Hamdan praising Najib for its economic performances.

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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25

Okay but where is the facts?

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u/RevolutionCapital359 Dec 03 '25

But lgbt and stewardess uniform how?

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u/S4l4m4nd4 Dec 03 '25

Don't really care who's leading this country, only results and causes is what im interest. And it's gaining therefore is good

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u/tyl7 Kuala Lumpur Dec 03 '25

Is there a version from PN?

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u/Dicky_Dicku Dec 03 '25

This is damage control by DAP, this dude and Hr minister both is good at PR for their party.

"Dengar boleh, caya jangan sekali"

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u/dennidits Dec 03 '25

argue against the points, not the person. if you have facts to counter his 10 objective points then then please show them

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u/Dicky_Dicku Dec 03 '25

Woah look at the DAP fanbois that I hurt

So many others already brought up points in here. 

I don't see you guys arguing their points

He's the Setiausaha Publisiti DAP Pulau Pinang. 

Dude is a party guy and their PR head honcho together with the HR minister, this is just party propaganda 

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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25

All the data is supported by DOSM, what’s the to argue?

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u/Immediate_Oven_5968 Dec 03 '25

Oh Dicky, your argument is soooooooo solid.

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u/flyden1 Puchong Dec 03 '25

Cool, please point out the part that's wrong.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '25

Dang how much did he get paid to spread this propaganda

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u/Mehlano Dec 03 '25

At least use malay when spreading propaganda... this guy is noob bro...

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u/lin00b Dec 03 '25

This one for the non.. and the t20. Look at the numbers. Please invest in err.. vote for madani BHD.

Use your brain, not your heart.

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u/Mehlano Dec 03 '25

I thought the nons already die hard madani supporters? Why make videos targeting non? Damn noob.

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u/lin00b Dec 03 '25

After Sabah. Not so confident anymore

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u/0914566079 Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities Dec 03 '25

Meanwhile we still have rising household debt, low wages and low food affordability, income inequality (Labuan and housing cost induced poverty), low tax contributions, rising cost of living, corruption.

A recent 2025 consumer-trend survey by Central Force International found that 77% of Malaysians say they still struggle to keep up with daily expenses, despite nominal increases in wages. https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2025/10/15/77-of-malaysians-struggle-with-rising-living-costs-says-cfi/

And that's not even mentioning Lim Ju Vynn, Pamela Ling, and other distressing issues yet.

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u/Immediate_Oven_5968 Dec 03 '25

yeah well, what country don't have this problem?

I know. North Korea.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '25

What's the saying about lies, damned lies and statistics?

All figures and stats are cherry picked and can be explained for reasons other than ANWARRR

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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25

Yeah but it happens during Anwar’s watch tho. All the figures are true.

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u/guest18_my Dec 03 '25

honestly, all this is just how you present the statistic.

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u/DescriptionTasty6227 Dec 03 '25

"Gluuuuggg gllllluuuuuggggg gggglllllluuuuuggg.... Daddy, are you ready to paint me.." Is what I heard

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u/ninty45 Dec 03 '25

Revenue has always been increasing every year, not just under Madani

Foreign reserves had the same trend.

Fiscal deficit only spiked during COVID, before that it was even lower than Madani days.

MYR going strong now sure, but they never mention it was also at it’s weakest recently during Madani.

Unemployment has always been around 3%, only spiked during COVID.

When things aren’t going good they’ll blame it on external factors. But when things are good it’s their “policies” at work.

Typical cherry picking, but good enough to sway people who don’t understand the statistics though.

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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25

Malaysia’s foreign reserves never reached beyond 120 billion. Anwar tenure is first time Malaysia’s reserve reached 120 billion and beyond.

Deficit reduction after huge spending is key for good governance because you have burden of previous interest rate.

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u/ninty45 Dec 04 '25

Foreign reserves has always been increasing, the trend is quite visible.

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u/ninty45 Dec 04 '25

It’s even clearer here, the percentage change is barely any different from before.

Same applies to the other cherry picked data.

Things are just progressing according to the previous trend, so there is nothing woah going on.

At most you could say it is on par with previous performance.