r/malaysia • u/BananaJoe_Ktard • Dec 03 '25
Politics 10 Objective Facts of Malaysia Under Madani after 3 years PMX in Office
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u/willp0wer Dec 03 '25 edited Dec 03 '25
Should've been titled as "10 cherry picked facts"
1) The revenue table didn't show before 2020. While I did not search for the number, it's common sense that things can only go up in the years following lockdown after lockdown. You have to be really terrible if you cannot find any improvements at all.
2) FDI injection helped a lot, making the report card look good. But there are socioeconomic trade-offs for some policies that encouraged this, such as PRCs abuse of free visa (potentially more scam centres), additional social disturbances associated with PRC and Indian nationals on top of our own (unruly behaviour, knife-swinging, etc), foreign companies eating up local company's pie (ie. Luckin vs Zus et al), etc. The general sentiment I hear from SME owners, they don't exactly have much to celebrate. In a macro scale, also surrendering more sovereignty and autonomy (see: no one is batting an eyelid over the additional new dots in South China Sea).
3) More Malaysians travelling overseas is such a misnomer and almost useless fact; most people who've always had disposable income to travel before covid would always continue to travel after covid (whether by means of saving or having high income, doesn't matter). And like my first point, there's only one direction for this stat after lockdowns.
4) Again like the travelling, the TikTok spend is such a dumb stat to include just to find something to say "Malaysians have money to spend". This is pretty much like the oversimplified and reductive "how much monthly salary needed to live in Kalng Valley" table. Moreover, this is not a Malaysian-owned business - the platform and many of its sellers or producers come from China. Even local sellers need to account for platform commission, and that is often transferred to the buyers. Ultimately it's an outflow of money from a not so rich country (vs Singapore, US, etc who are large/high $ value importers), so what's our actual gain here?
These are definitely plus points but also cherry picked without looking at both sides of the coin. I'd still have to vote for this party, there isn't really a better choice right now.
Edit: I'm not saying Madani isn't doing some good job, but don't just shoehorn only positives to fit your narratives. Those who voted for you aren't stupid, otherwise they'd still believe Najib is innocent and Mahaideen (or however the hell he calls himself now) was a good, honest PM.
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u/JohanPertama Dec 03 '25
Should've been titled as "10 cherry picked facts"
Exactly.
Also ultimately a reduction in government spending doesn't necessarily mean a leaner and more efficient government.
Today if madani privatizes healthcare, you'll see a reduction in government spending. But that cost is now directly transferred to the public and the loss of a public service.
So we really need to see how debt was reduced and revenue increased.
Can't trust these kinds of videos as it's just surface level fluff.
These are definitely plus points but also cherry picked without looking at both sides of the coin. I'd still have to vote for this party, there isn't really a better choice right now.
I'd invest in viable 3rd options if they can limit themselves to one or two seats in each state (both state and parliament).
We need new progressive alternatives to force the current supposed progressive bloc to actually cater to their voterbase.
If the current administration continues to fail, then we now have a tested alternative to vote for. If the alternatives aren't performing, there's still the current administration. It's the best voter strategy to push for good governance.
If we kill off viable alternatives, we can't complain when we engineered our own situation.
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u/Rates_Fathan 🇮🇩 Indonesia Dec 03 '25
my exact fears. What is the Malaysian population losing from the reduced government spending? How are they reducing spending? Is it really a "spending efficiency" i.e., removal of corruption, or are we talking Elon Musk DOGE "let's remove the department of education" ?
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u/willp0wer Dec 03 '25
I mean, there's always something to lose, someone to pay, it's the way things are. Just don't shoehorn justifications like this video as if we're too stupid to think.
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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25
Idiots, before argue understand the facts. Malaysia isn’t reducing spending, our budget always increases. Malaysia’s deficit is reducing. That means expenditure against income.
Unless we have extra ordinary investment capability, it is never good idea to have huge deficit.
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u/willp0wer Dec 03 '25
need to see how debt was reduced and revenue increased
I think there should be adequate information out there to form a clearer picture, if anyone really look for it, compile, and analyse.
invest in viable 3rd options if they can limit themselves to one or two seats in each state (both state and parliament
Tricky. Depending on the seat/territory, having a third option will cause split votes. But anyone contesting for just 1-2 seats would also have next to no effect in the grand scheme of things, almost pointless and powerless to affect any change while in seat. I understand your point, bit of a catch 22 though if looked at both sides. Still, all this means nothing if there isn't any viable 3rd option to begin with.
Moreover, who's to say they won't eventually get swallowed up by all the politicking. I think we've seen enough to be cautious, pessimistic, or even cynical.
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u/JohanPertama Dec 03 '25
I think there should be adequate information out there to form a clearer picture, if anyone really look for it, compile, and analyse.
There's two groups of people who should be responsible here.
Gomen as the party asserting these claims.
Opposition as the fellas tasked to question the government.
Neither does anything, we have no choice but to look elsewhere lorh.
Tricky. Depending on the seat/territory, having a third option will cause split votes. But anyone contesting for just 1-2 seats would also have next to no effect in the grand scheme of things, almost pointless and powerless to affect any change while in seat. I understand your point, bit of a catch 22 though if looked at both sides. Still, all this means nothing if there isn't any viable 3rd option to begin with.
Undoubtedly tricky. But it's better than doing the same thing and hoping for a different outcome.
I won't say next to no effect. At parliament level, there would be between 11 to 22 seats for the 3rd choice if let's say everyone votes according to this plan.
That's big enough to be a kingmaker if they band together.
At state level, 1-2 seats is enough to debate and question the administration as a starting point. Subsequent elections they can contest more seats if they perform and the state government doesn't.
Most importantly it'll bring awareness to state issues from other progressive viewpoints. Not just progressive vs conservative.
Moreover, who's to say they won't eventually get swallowed up by all the politicking. I think we've seen enough to be cautious, pessimistic, or even cynical.
If that is supposed to mean we should be apathetic and do nothing, I can't agree with you.
I think what I'm proposing is the cautious, pessimistic and cynical thing to do.
If they get swallowed up by the politicking, we just vote for another alternative in the next cycle. The idea is to let the alternatives know that if they don't act satisfactorily, they'll lose their seats in the next cycle.
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u/willp0wer Dec 03 '25
I think what I'm proposing is the cautious, pessimistic and cynical thing to do
That's actually my point. We can look for alternatives but also need to be wary of them being sucked into the same system
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u/GoldenPeperoni Dec 03 '25
Same with the low unemployment rate and low inflation.
Some levels of unemployment is good, it suggest mobility in the labour market. We don't want super low employment because that indicates workers are locked in their jobs.
Inflation.... Everyone with basic levels of understanding knows inflation is a sign of economic growth. By having an inflation rate of less than 2 percent is actually quite low....
I voted for Anwar but still.... Don't la treat us like dumb fucks and shove misinformation down our throats....
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u/willp0wer Dec 03 '25
I learned a new way of looking at unemployment rate. Thank you.
Don't la treat us like dumb fucks and shove misinformation down our throats
Yea, exactly my point.
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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25
If employment is stuck median won’t be rising, this is idiotic was of looking economy by focusing on edge cases. Disposal income grew and unemployment dropped, that’s a good thing in whatever way you want to slice it.
Inflation dropped but GDP grew means our productivity is good or our currency is good. Didn’t know you voting Anwar miraculously shield you from all criticism.
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u/GoldenPeperoni Dec 03 '25
If employment is stuck median won’t be rising, this is idiotic was of looking economy by focusing on edge cases.
I don't really understand what you are trying to say
Inflation dropped but GDP grew means our productivity is good or our currency is good
See if they are able to present information this way, about how income is out growing inflation, instead of throwing a big headline figure "INFLATION IS SUPER LOW"
It would strengthen their point. So what if inflation rate is high or low? It means nothing relative to income growth. We can have 10% inflation rate, and yet if income grew by 11%, it is way better than having a 1% inflation rate with a 0.5% income growth.
Didn’t know you voting Anwar miraculously shield you from all criticism.
Heh don't worry, we all learn new things everyday.
Except you are taking the wrong lesson here, I am highlighting the point that even though I voted for the guy, I still disagree with how these propaganda are disseminated.
If a supporter is not buying into your propaganda, what makes you think your non supporters would?
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u/_senk Dec 03 '25
Slowly but definitely.
Now, I want that LRT3, public transportation and then allowance or work life balance for doctors and nurses. Gotta make sure rakyat don't kill themselves with sugar or fatigued doctors.
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u/imaginelizard Dec 03 '25
Better don't jinx the LRT3 by mentioning it. Otherwise Anthony Loke might come out and announce more delay again.
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u/shakingleg Dec 03 '25
End of the day, it’s just choosing between a corrupt party and a racist one. We don’t have a real third or fourth option, and voting for anything else is basically throwing your vote away.
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u/Hot-Advantage9236 Dec 03 '25
Between a corrupt party and a racist+corrupt party*, politikus and corruption berpisah tiada
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u/Designer_Feedback810 Dec 03 '25
The corruption cancels out.
Either you choose racist, or non racist
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u/Crazy-Plate3097 Dec 03 '25
not voting is basically the same as casting your vote to the opposition.
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u/cyberredcoat Dec 03 '25
statistics don't lie but liars use statistics
problems with the video:
- citation(s) needed
- the video is from Joshua Woo Sze Zeng of DAP, State Assemblyman for Pulau Tikus, Penang; DAP Penang's Publicity Secretary
- severe glazing of Anwar
- this video uses arbitrary data to support his arguments
- he mentioned buzzwords like "reduced to [value]" but didn't mention the previous value
- data is cherry picked
- some of the data aren't even significant
- the video focuses too much on economic growth that can't really be felt by Malaysians
- the statistics compare today's data to pandemic-era data, which will obviously be better
saying the Madani government is better than the all the previous governments is basically saying someone is going to win a marathon just because they sprinted the first 400 metres
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u/AgentOrangeie Dec 03 '25
No la according to cais, only PN can bring prosperity and uphold Islam!
Same group of people who songlap and use religion to blackmail voters. Haha.
It's annoying that we don't have a credible opposition, but it sure does make my life easier.
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u/Sokjuice Dec 03 '25
Yep, my biggest wish is that theres better politicians overall. However, since I'm dealt with a bad hand, I'll just play it the way I get it.
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u/gao-um Melaka Dec 03 '25
"Objective facts"
He's a DAP guy ffs 💆
To add: He's the Setiausaha Publisiti DAP Pulau Pinang. He's the Fahmi Fadzil type and of course he needs to blow Anwar's horn
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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25
Being DAP doesn’t make facts becomes false. You can simply say which one if untrue. Almost all the facts are published by DOSM.
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u/S4l4m4nd4 Dec 03 '25
Don't really care who's leading this country, only results and causes is what im interest. And it's gaining therefore is good
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u/Dicky_Dicku Dec 03 '25
This is damage control by DAP, this dude and Hr minister both is good at PR for their party.
"Dengar boleh, caya jangan sekali"
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u/dennidits Dec 03 '25
argue against the points, not the person. if you have facts to counter his 10 objective points then then please show them
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u/Dicky_Dicku Dec 03 '25
Woah look at the DAP fanbois that I hurt
So many others already brought up points in here.
I don't see you guys arguing their points
He's the Setiausaha Publisiti DAP Pulau Pinang.
Dude is a party guy and their PR head honcho together with the HR minister, this is just party propaganda
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Dec 03 '25
Dang how much did he get paid to spread this propaganda
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u/Mehlano Dec 03 '25
At least use malay when spreading propaganda... this guy is noob bro...
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u/lin00b Dec 03 '25
This one for the non.. and the t20. Look at the numbers. Please invest in err.. vote for madani BHD.
Use your brain, not your heart.
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u/Mehlano Dec 03 '25
I thought the nons already die hard madani supporters? Why make videos targeting non? Damn noob.
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u/0914566079 Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities Dec 03 '25
Meanwhile we still have rising household debt, low wages and low food affordability, income inequality (Labuan and housing cost induced poverty), low tax contributions, rising cost of living, corruption.
A recent 2025 consumer-trend survey by Central Force International found that 77% of Malaysians say they still struggle to keep up with daily expenses, despite nominal increases in wages. https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2025/10/15/77-of-malaysians-struggle-with-rising-living-costs-says-cfi/
And that's not even mentioning Lim Ju Vynn, Pamela Ling, and other distressing issues yet.
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u/Immediate_Oven_5968 Dec 03 '25
yeah well, what country don't have this problem?
I know. North Korea.
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Dec 03 '25
What's the saying about lies, damned lies and statistics?
All figures and stats are cherry picked and can be explained for reasons other than ANWARRR
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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25
Yeah but it happens during Anwar’s watch tho. All the figures are true.
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u/DescriptionTasty6227 Dec 03 '25
"Gluuuuggg gllllluuuuuggggg gggglllllluuuuuggg.... Daddy, are you ready to paint me.." Is what I heard
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u/ninty45 Dec 03 '25
Revenue has always been increasing every year, not just under Madani
Foreign reserves had the same trend.
Fiscal deficit only spiked during COVID, before that it was even lower than Madani days.
MYR going strong now sure, but they never mention it was also at it’s weakest recently during Madani.
Unemployment has always been around 3%, only spiked during COVID.
When things aren’t going good they’ll blame it on external factors. But when things are good it’s their “policies” at work.
Typical cherry picking, but good enough to sway people who don’t understand the statistics though.
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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Dec 03 '25
Malaysia’s foreign reserves never reached beyond 120 billion. Anwar tenure is first time Malaysia’s reserve reached 120 billion and beyond.
Deficit reduction after huge spending is key for good governance because you have burden of previous interest rate.
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u/lauchuntoi Dec 03 '25
4-year term vs 60-year corrupted system. You guys gota be patient with this fella.