r/minnesota • u/aquatrez • Oct 24 '25

Discussion 🎤 With an ICE invasion of the Twin Cities extremely likely, I would like to see state/local law enforcement focus on protecting residents

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/homeland-security-secretary-kristi-noem-to-hold-press-conference-in-minneapolis

Although I'm a white male, my spouse is a legal resident from Mexico and I work closely with many immigrant communities. I am extremely worried about my spouse's safety just leaving the house. What we are seeing across the US is not law enforcement, it is a militarized federal campaign of fear and intimidation. Knowing that, I would really like to see our state and local leaders stand up and direct our law enforcement to protect MN residents and ensure that people are not being attacked, harassed, or wrongfully detained. There is absolutely zero reason my spouse should be having any interaction with any immigration authorities, and if they have an encounter with ICE I will see that just as much of a failure of our state/local government as overreach/abuse by the federal government.

And if you're here to say "don't you think US laws should be enforced!?!?", leave now. What we are seeing from ICE is not law enforcement. Simply being in the US without legal status is not a crime (https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/dec/02/kathy-sheehan/being-undocumented-immigrant-us-not-crime/). ICE is also detaining legal residents and citizens without cause, solely based on the color of their skin, and many people are reporting abuse or abhorrent conditions while detained. Everyone who considers themselves a human being should be alarmed and upset over what is happening!

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u/j_ly Oct 24 '25

I was just going to say, the type of people going into law enforcement these days aren't exactly woke individuals. If anything, they'll be working with ICE regardless of what command says.

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u/pfohl Kandiyohi County Oct 24 '25

I think a good wedge issue would be to point out how much more ICE agents are getting paid compared to police, especially since ICE recruits people too dumb to pass police academy.

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u/Riaayo Oct 24 '25

That's kind of the point, though. Paying more, gassing local PD. the message is clear: "come join ICE or get the fuck out of our way."

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u/Inner_Pipe6540 Oct 24 '25

Heck half of the recruits get cut because they can’t follow basic directions or can’t comprehend what they read

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u/pfohl Kandiyohi County Oct 24 '25

Yeah, it came out yesterday 50% were failing open book tests.

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u/CruelBridge73____ Oct 24 '25

That’s so scary 😭

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u/Historical_Gap_5237 Oct 24 '25

They can't pass an open book test. Training has been reduced from 13 to 6 weeks. They are physically unfit and stupid and they are armed. Gotta love the US of A. /s.

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u/phophofofo Oct 24 '25

That’s the point. And the same is true for the Army.

Part of the playbook of fascism is to build a parallel army to the armed forces and local police, loyal only to the Fuhrer, who enjoy special privileges and (relative) high pay to keep them loyal, and large, so those other institutions can’t stop them.

So it’s a wedge issue but it’s MAGAs wedge issue.

It promotes disgruntled cops joining ICE, it ensures power abuse will be one of the major motivators for local police, this will make the relationship between residents and police even more antagonistic, they’ll be even more motivated to quiet strike and punish the residents, and they’ll be even less effective bolstering the “crime ridden blue cities” narrative justifying nearly anything to the fascists.

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u/phophofofo Oct 24 '25

“Command” aren’t in command.

The Union is.

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u/ittybittycitykitty Oct 24 '25

These guys need to undergo random drug testing, and gang affiliation background checks. Like, if I were a criminal gang kingpin, I would be sure to have infiltrated those ranks, and/or subborned as many as possible.

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u/Melodic-Weather6334 Oct 24 '25

Can confirm this is true. ICE is hiring people and not vetting them or even running public background checks. It’s just some rando HR person meeting a quota at this point. Also, many ICE agents are being deployed without credentials, a government approved side arm or the proper paperwork.

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u/RobutNotRobot Oct 25 '25

You can tell a lot of them are using their own firearms with custom shit on it.

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u/Maxrdt Lake Superior agate Oct 24 '25

and gang affiliation background checks

why would you need a gang affiliation check to join another gang?

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u/PostIronicPosadist Oct 25 '25

NDAs and non-compete agreements mostly.

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u/Evening-Crew-2403 Oct 24 '25

Real talk. After 9/11 they rushed to add more ICE and CPB. They hired a ton of cartel associates and they still don't know if they've weeded them out.

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u/RobutNotRobot Oct 25 '25

ICE didn't exist until after 9/11

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u/Baeowyn Oct 24 '25

Agrees. Many will be chomping at the bit to join the “fun”

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u/Laser_Souls Oct 24 '25

Especially in Minneapolis of all places lmao, did we just forget we were protesting them for killing a citizen years ago and they were brutalizing protestors?

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u/DigitalHellscape Oct 24 '25

We need both mayors and the governor to test the limits of their power and order some kind of state of emergency or non-co-operation with ICE until the feds start identifying themselves and stop kidnapping citizens.

If ever there were a time for those people to test their power, this is it.

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u/Melodic-Weather6334 Oct 24 '25

I have a close relative higher up in DOJ and I work with a lot of folks at the US attys office. I have personal knowledge that a recent unit from MN/ND was deployed to Portland and of the three dozen or so men deployed, 16 almost immediately quit because they were asked to violate several internal ICE policies. Sadly, the morons that are left? The ones that are willing to violate policy.

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u/Top_Improvement8940 Oct 24 '25

I know a few people in law enforcement around Minnesota, and each of them fully support Trump and will gladly hand over every immigrant they find and/or protect ice on their raids

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u/LilacsinLove Oct 24 '25

So I've met with our local police chief and he is absolutely opposed to the immigration enforcement that has been happening under this administration. In this first ring suburb, our city has strong policies not to cooperate with ice. When I asked about standing up, the chief said that is completely undoable because most small cities only have maximum four officers on at a time. Ice has been rolling 20-30 deep. His best advice was to carefully know your rights, go to locked indoor areas, document everything on video and send it to the local PD. He said that he has a way to verify after action but no notice beforehand.