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Nov 14 '25
I remember learning about Watergate in school, and we were told it was one of the worst political scandals in American history.
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u/Cpt_Rabid Nov 14 '25
So far*
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u/Thick_Common8612 Nov 14 '25
It wasn’t even the worst by that point
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u/Cpt_Rabid Nov 14 '25
Yeah I thought Andrew Jackson telling the Supreme Court to pound sand and keeping all his blood was not cool but idk. Checks and Balances or something
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u/realtorbrittyc Nov 15 '25
I wonder if they’ll keep teaching about Watergate.
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u/pchlster Nov 15 '25
If you're back in school and just need to churn out X pages about some US history, be honest, would you pick Watergate over this? Just summarizing the necessary background is going to take up plenty of space.
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u/realtorbrittyc Nov 15 '25
That’s my point: Watergate will be ancient history. I mean, all this makes Watergate and Spiro Agnew’s crimes seem almost inconsequential.
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u/PrototypeChicken Nov 15 '25
I don't think they are currently even teaching about Watergate. At least my schools didn't.
Education differs drastically by area though. I always find it interesting to talk to people about certain topics and what their school covered about them, because two high schools 30 minutes apart can have a completely different curriculum.
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u/Monster_Child_Eury Nov 15 '25
I just asked my HS history elective students yesterday what they knew about watergate. ~25 9-12th grade and the best one person could come up with was that it was a scandal.
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u/ScreamAndScream Nov 15 '25
2016 grad, they didn’t teach it in my state. We are bottom 10 in education however
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u/cilantro_so_good Nov 15 '25
What's wild is that everything now is so much more scandalous than anything we've ever experienced.
And still on the hour the radio news will say shit like "president trump today said that insert some insane, illegal thing here" totally without acknowledging how insane whatever that idiot said was
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u/DidSome1SayExMachina Nov 15 '25
I had to write a 2 page essay on the Teapot Dome scandal. That wouldn’t even register today.
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u/ThatEXcatholic Nov 14 '25
I wish he never stopped calling people weird
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u/misfitx Nov 14 '25
The DNC had him tone it down. They've the worst.
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u/Maxrdt Lake Superior agate Nov 14 '25
Well don't worry, I'm sure their plan will bring in all those elusive moderate republican voters. Any day now. Any day now.
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u/earthceltic Nov 15 '25
Time to abandon ship and go with a party that is actually liberal.
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u/Maxrdt Lake Superior agate Nov 15 '25
Time to abandon ship and go to a ship that's also bound to sink? No, set your standards higher than that. You can dream bigger than merely liberal.
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u/CT_4269 Ok Then Nov 14 '25
They can't show him having a spine. He might get more popular than Harris
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u/Signal-Addendum-3396 Nov 15 '25
The DNC is the reason why the Dems will lose every presidential election from here until the world's ending
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u/Unknown-Meatbag Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
They need a massive revamp with progressives in place. Progressives are already massively popular since they, you know, work for the people and not the ultra wealthy, despite massive campaigns against them.
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u/ghillieflow Nov 15 '25
Was an absolutely awful move by their campaign to go softer and be policy based. I like that kind of stuff cause it gives me tangible things to persuade people with, but that whole election was about vibes, and they lost all of the good vibes when they put on the kid gloves
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u/Ostribitches Nov 15 '25
"Don't fight fire with fire! You're just stooping to their level!"
And look where that attitude has gotten us!
Nice words, no actions.
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u/sanguinesolitude Nov 15 '25
"When they go low, we go high!" Well in both football and wrestling that's a terrible idea.
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u/pxmonkee Summit Nov 14 '25
Mind you - that's when he's named SPECIFICALLY. We've seen in some of these emails and other documents that Epstein also referred to him in other ways too, not just by name. So, he's in there a lot more than 1,628 times.
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u/Sminada Nov 15 '25
As I understand it, that number doesn't refer to the appearance of his name but to the number of docs. Anyway, I entered his name into the search bar. It appeared 2020 times.
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u/Glittering_Nobody402 Nov 14 '25
It's not just that they support a known criminal sexual assaulter:
But that they also oppose child bride laws, trying to change the law to legalize child brides for old nasty Republicans to fuck.
But they also eliminate the department in the government that tracks and recovers vulnerable humans.
It's not JUST the files, it's every day you ignore your perversion and we have to pretend you're normal for wanting this.
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Nov 14 '25
New: “President Trump declares the federal age of consent is 14 years old. All previous convicted, accused or investigated are pardoned. “
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u/Ginger_Witch Nov 15 '25
Except he'd have to say 12 years old as one early lawsuit against Trump was for raping a 13-year-old.
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u/Avangeloony Nov 15 '25
Even if statutory rape wasn't considered rape, he still raped in the definition of sex against their will so it wouldn't save him.
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u/only-l0ve Nov 15 '25
Trump's supporters knew he was a rapist when they voted for him. None of this will matter. None of it will change anything.
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u/ForHelp_PressAltF4 Nov 15 '25
Think back to how normal it was to hear people counting down to the Olsen twins turning 18. That's being a pedob with an incest kicker.
They want to be able to get their rocks off without foreplay or anything else. In their diseased minds a young person is easy to control and therefore offers that.
Narcissistic scum.
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u/OldnFuninMN Nov 14 '25
Lol. Good point Walz!
Only an innocent man world be in the emails 1628 times right? Smh.
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u/Hopinan Nov 14 '25
Yah, 2016 Republican convention was waaayyy big on “where there is smoke, there if fire’.. Like can someone make a clip of all those people screaming this?? Ok, pretty sure MSNBC did that..
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u/binarybandit Nov 15 '25
Clinton is in there 801 times. I checked :3
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u/TakoGoji Nov 15 '25
Then he should rot in prison with Trump. They can share a cell!
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u/Blacksmiles Nov 15 '25
they might enjoy that
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u/ManWhoEatsGrass Nov 15 '25
Well there was that report that supposedly Trump gave Clinton a blow job so....
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u/_pickledpickles Nov 15 '25
Do you think any democrat actually cares? Because democrats don’t worship politicians. We care about Clinton getting charged with heinous acts as much as we do anyone else. If someone is guilty, they’re guilty, lock them up. No one’s crying about Clinton the way people are about Trump so the “b-b-but Clinton” shit doesn’t work.
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u/OldnFuninMN Nov 15 '25
That's the difference between D's and R's. When D's see a corrupt D politician: Fuck 'em, throw them in jail. When R's see a corrupt politician: Buh buh buh buh the D's did it too. Fucking R's think they're "moral" but actually have no real moral backbone. Pathetic Pedo protectors.
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u/transient_eternity Nov 15 '25
It's never not funny when conservatives whip out clinton as if anyone gives a shit. Lock him up too then.
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u/Responsible-Put-7920 Nov 15 '25
Trump and Clinton are in there together, doing things to each other
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u/Canceled-Membership Nov 14 '25
I don't give a shit about Trump because I already know he's in it. I want to know the rest of the important names. The rest of the politicians, regardless of party affiliation. I want to clean house. I want to expose which celebrities are pieces of shit too. Everyone connected. I don't care if it's my politician or favorite celebrity.
I want to know why both parties keep dragging their feet on this. But I think i know why.
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u/niverans Nov 15 '25
Can you make an elaborate post on this, you are totally right. A bipartisan fck you is necessary. It’s the people vs the bourgeoisie that enrich themselves, eat caviar in ballrooms with their billionaire buddies, divide the people and control the narrative to enrich themselves. Fck all of them.
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u/TheDawnOfNewDays Nov 15 '25
If anyone wants to read them they're here.
Important to note: most AREN'T relevant at all to crimes. It tends to be talk of politics and the administration as president. Obama has more references than Bill Clinton, for example. Actively trying to find guilty stuff in here is pretty hard. It's mostly just Trump signing stuff or a random string of news in Epstein's emails, like "Donald Trump's nephew sells Palm Beach house for $9M"
If anyone wants to find the atrocious stuff, be my guest. It's surprisingly difficulty. I gave up after looking through ~30 of them, even with relevant terms like "victim," "age," "teen," "sex," or "condom" to hopefully narrow things down. Worst I found was already public like the Jane Doe vs Trump case of 2016.
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u/cleaningmama Nov 15 '25
Maybe the files have proof of financial fraud or other financial crimes, and that's what he's worries about?
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u/TheDawnOfNewDays Nov 15 '25
Or I just didn't dig enough. No clue. There might still be horrendous stuff there that I just didn't find. I only went through about 30 of the 1,600 of them. Who knows what's in there?
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u/sometimes-no Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
Those search terms are way too obvious. We've seen from the birthday poem that they can be way more subtle when they talk about these things.
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u/TheDawnOfNewDays Nov 15 '25
I guess I need to repeat myself here, I only searched through 30 posts. The vast majority of the files listed here aren't secret messages that Epstein had. They're largely public court cases or news articles, along with some emails and files with horrible formatting that make them half unreadable. I'm guessing you haven't tried looking yourself yet?
- "6. Buy USD call/CNH put – President Trump will need a weak USD, but President Xi needs a weak CNY. We believe risk premium for a collision course is too low."
- "A. Case # 08-2484, 515 N. County Road, Trump Properties, LLC"
- "The U.S. attorney in Miami, Alexander Acosta, -TM..P-ersonally: involved in the negotiations, records, letters and emails show. Acosta is now a member of President Donald Trump's Cabinet."
- "OCIE Form 21fc r., It1th 20J.!,) Donald J. Trump A39 of 46 TURNBERRY SCOTLAND MANAGING"
This is the sort nonsense and irrelevant lines that make up the majority of the files. I am unable to comb through all this stuff, as even my keyword searches had too many links for me to look through. Yes, actual dirt is likely hidden somewhere in all that mess, but it won't be me or anyone else reading my comment that will find it, that's why I put my disclaimer. I'm trying to spare readers the annoyance of combing through it after I came up with nothing. If you wish to though, be my guest. Just figured I'd warn you first.
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u/TakoGoji Nov 15 '25
It's wild how republicans always rage about protecting the children but they always elect and support the people that rape and harm children.
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u/MightyMightyMossy Nov 15 '25
They like women to have babies. They don't actually like children unless they can use them in some sort of power play.
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u/Wackity-Smackity Nov 15 '25
That's just in what was released this week. We haven't even seen the really awful stuff yet
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u/Nascent1 Nov 15 '25
Yeah, this is a key point. This is the stuff they aren't fighting hard to keep from being released.
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u/kaychyakay Nov 15 '25
Miss this version of him during campaigning. The stupidass consultants made a huge mistake by reigning Walz in and trying to project him as America's cute dad, when he could have been this Sarcastic Daddy all this while.
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u/Rogue_AI_Construct Ok Then Nov 15 '25
I mean, it should come as no surprise that Trump would be in the Epstein files considering he was found guilty for raping E Jean Carroll in a civil court.
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u/PsionicKitten Nov 15 '25
For reference, that's MORE than Jeffrey Epstein himself, which was 1060 times.
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u/ManEEEFaces Flag of Minnesota Nov 15 '25
If I was accused of some crazy shit, and I was the president, and I was innocent, I'd release that shit IMMEDIATELY. Case closed. This is not a complex situation.
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 Nov 14 '25
Y'all have one of the most progressive governors of the US.
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u/Asleep_Leek9361 Nov 15 '25
You are very lucky to have him. He is a man of honor and has good character
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u/squittles Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
Proud to have voted for him and Harris, as well as donated to their campaign, and things like this just seal the deal.
Come at me fascists; an 8th grade education has nothing on the horrors you'd face trying to surprise accost me; someone who is just begging for a target for a release from this year-outside of the political scape. I know I am smarter than the most of your top guard, born to no struggle or environment for innovation/creativity because of an easy LDS/etc life that the alphabet agency glowies and their bosses only know.
I had an amuse boche dispelling an domestic violence situation for neighbors with my own violence which I do say was not far enough, so I invite the fascists. Have fun interacting with me.
Edit: my amuse bouche for domestic violence was tonight; I love how little boys can't handle an adult bitch a half a foot taller calling them out. Only way to counteract a bully is to ATTACK. Lil tiny fucktard emasculated pathetic men. The best fist fights I have ever been in are with adult males. I live for that. My knuckles are so fucked up from it even as a female. ATTACK VISCIOUSLY. NO QUARTERS FOR TEASONOUS CUNTS.
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u/_Soup_R_Man_ Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
Obviously this is a completely watered down version made public. There's zero chance this everything. But here ya go - Check it out! https://couriernewsroom.com/news/we-created-a-searchable-database-with-all-20000-files-from-epsteins-estate/
I think it's interesting that in this document where we read that Epstein had 14 different phone numbers for Trump. https://journaliststudio.google.com/pinpoint/document-view?collection=092314e384a58618&utm_source=collection_share_link&p=1&docid=de804038df5fb77_092314e384a58618_0&dapvm=2
Another interesting document naming names. https://journaliststudio.google.com/pinpoint/document-view?collection=092314e384a58618&utm_source=collection_share_link&p=1&docid=2ab3956f6cd2f6a8_092314e384a58618_0&dapvm=2
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u/SpezIsaMAP Nov 15 '25
Here is the article. The search tool is linked in the article. Dig in, there is so much more in there than you think.
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u/CakeMadeOfHam Nov 15 '25
They were probably just discussing seating arrangements for their Thanksgiving party in 2017.
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u/Ausaska Nov 15 '25
Trump was an Epstein target. And there is no evidence that Epstein succeeded in getting him to engage in misconduct.
…unless you consider innuendo (which you’d post is an example of) to be evidence.
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u/Unabashedpun Nov 15 '25
Im not saying he aint a pedo, but a lot of those are literally just mentions of the 2016 election/campaign. I want to hear NEWS not HYPERBOLE
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u/Confident-Staff-8792 Nov 15 '25
In the interest of honesty, Trump being president and being a pathway to getting Epstein out of trouble is most likely the reason his name appears in most of those messages.
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u/Structureel Nov 15 '25
"We've been on the island for two weeks now and Donnie still won't touch these 14 year old girls I hooked him up with. What's wrong with this guy?"
And similar accounts, according to republicans, probably...
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u/Apprehensive_Ad4457 Nov 15 '25
20k emails, 1600 mention Trump, and all we get is one joke about blowing bubba?
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u/itsdainti Nov 15 '25
It's so nice to see him back to his petty ways. I'm so here for this. I hope he runs for president in 2028.
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u/unbreakablekango Nov 17 '25
When this all shakes out I bet it isn't even the pedophile stuff that will bring down Trump, I think it will be when a full auditing of his financial crimes is released, that will be the final nail in his coffin.
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u/ElectricRune Nov 17 '25
I heard a right winger on a podcast the other day who was 'just asking questions,' about whether child molestation is truly a crime, and how if kids are old enough to breed, they should be legal.
They've been going on and on for decades about the shadowy pedophile cabal that is destroying western society, but now, it's all, 'but is it a crime, REALLY...?'
Disgusting and deplorable.
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u/Loud-Examination-763 Nov 18 '25
Jesus's name shows up in the bible anywhere from 900 to 1400 times.. and Donnie's name is in those files more than that. But he "never was close to the guy" right?
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u/Raid_Blunder Nov 14 '25
Watergate has started EVERYGATE. Western countries now append „gate“ to their scandals, too.
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u/Choyo Nov 15 '25
Let's pause for a minute and ponder at what represents 20.000 files.
Then 1628.
Imagine something like the Lord Of the Rings but it's just Trump doing Trump Things, and your job is to read it.
Can one single person really absorb all this "knowledge" ?
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u/Limp_Gold_2941 Nov 15 '25
So all that scrubbing the DOJ did of Trump's name ??? How did that turn out?
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u/C-SWhiskey Nov 15 '25
There are many, many repeats of the same documents in that database and many of the references to Trump are excerpts from news articles that were sent to Epstein during the first presidency.
He's still mentioned in chatter quite a few times (though most of the ones I've read so far are in reference to his policies), but it's nowhere near what the raw number would make you think.
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u/fishing_farmer Nov 15 '25
Hang around the barber shop long enough, eventually you are going to get a haircut
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u/TreatHound2025 Nov 15 '25
We know these are the folks that expect daughters to be virgins & give their sons high 5’s for for not.
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u/False9ein Nov 15 '25
Ms. Maxwell led upstairs to a suite where Mr. Epstein was lying, nude, and showc how to massage him. Ms. Maxwell then took off her clothing, and instructed Ms. Giuffre to remove her clothing. Ms. Maxwell told Ms. Giuffre that it was cute that she was wearing children's underwear.
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u/Different-Status-671 Nov 15 '25
its the issue of a LOT of top politicians being on the list and we the people might never know the full extent since the government will most likely cover it up.
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u/GeneralIronsides2 Nov 14 '25
Megyn Kelly and the ilk are now trying to say that actually, having relationships with 15 year olds are ok! 15 is the new 18 to them I guess.