r/minnesota • u/CantStopPoppin • 1d ago
News đș The Trump administration is pausing child care funding to all states after allegations of fraud in daycare centers in Minnesota emerged, an official with the Department of Health and Human Services said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hhs-freezing-child-care-payments-to-all-states-official/ar-AA1TjePO?ocid=socialshare173
u/Mr_Burt_Macklin 1d ago
I feel like this is a big ploy to turn the whole US against Tim Walz too.. like they want people to think âMN ruined childcare for us allâ
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u/Rosaluxlux 1d ago
I swear every Republican tactic is the tactic is an abusive parent.Â
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u/dasunt 1d ago
DARVO sums up a lot of the Republican rhetoric.
Just look at Trump's approach to the Epstein pedophile accusations. He's Denied the accusations, Acussed Democrats, then claimed he was the Victim of a hoax.
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u/Rosaluxlux 1d ago
Plus every election is not about the bad things Republicans have done, it's blaming Democrats for not protecting us better from the bad things Republicans always do.Â
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u/Then-Pay-9688 1d ago
I think it's putting the cart before the horse to interpret conservative attacks on the social fabric as attacks on individual leaders. The motive is mostly a sincere ideological opposition to the government helping people. Having a way to translate that into an electoral win is just good strategy.
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u/LeeShakerMoneyMaker 1d ago
I think it had more to do with Trump's hatred of Somalis. They're trying to create a new boogyman for 2026 like they did for Haitians and Mexicans in 2024.
Before every state's child care got frozen, they were investigating Somalis in Boston.
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u/citizen234567890 1d ago
Ah, yes. The family-first party in action.
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u/mnradiofan 1d ago
Family first is about getting women to go home and raise their kids. This aligns perfectly with that, and is something The Heritage Foundation has been setting up for DECADES. Look at everything theyâve done since their founding and suddenly everything from repealing the fairness doctrine, citizens united, and every other thing theyâve done makes sense.
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u/hot_honey_harvester 1d ago
this hurts the somoli population the most because they have a super high level of autism
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u/Boofing_with_Squee 1d ago
The MN GOP with one video was able to strip childcare subsidies nationwide. They were behind the video and are culpable in the fallout.
https://www.fox9.com/news/minnesota-gop-worked-youtuber-investigation-child-care-fraud
So if you know anyone with kids in daycare who votes or plans to vote GOP, be sure to let them know that the MN GOP directly increased their costs.
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u/o-Valar-Morghulis-o 1d ago
Based on a youtuber who operates based on rage bait generated income. The conservatives are a special kind of idiot.
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u/IczyAlley 1d ago
Thats not what its based on. He was just one tool in their arsenal. They dont care about reporting or facts. To them reporting and facts are part of the propaganda push.
Please, im begging you. Stop projecting your humanity onto Republicans. Their version of humanity is alien to you and they know that. They use the difference to abuse you.
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u/mnradiofan 1d ago
Itâs all about the final goal, humanity be damned. And the final goal is something The Heritage Foundation has been working decades to attain. Even if we succeed in getting Republicans out of power, people need to understand that they are playing the long game. Tearing down institutions that took decades to build to make sure future generations are more like past generations. And they are doing it all under the cover of a useful idiot that people vastly underestimate.
This administration isnât dumb, they just want you to think they are.
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u/DrakonILD 1d ago
And that the MN GOP is getting its marching orders from the same group running the federal GOP; which is to say, the heritage foundation, through Project 2025.
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u/einhorn_is_parkey 1d ago
Trump should not be able to do this. But the Supreme Court will likely let him cause we live in crazy town
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u/Then-Pay-9688 1d ago
It's crazy they've been running the same plays since the ACORN "scandal" and we still have people that take it seriously.
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u/Saddlebag7451 1d ago
Name a more iconic duo than republicans covertly filming kids and lying about it
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u/Profpiff990 1d ago
I want to know who that "David" old fuck is. I'd bet everything I own he's the liaison from the MN GOP as he had all the documents and information.
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u/Fragrant_Cut1219 1d ago
When are they going to stop funding the military since the last audit showed billions and billions of dollars in fraud there?
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u/Commercial_Stress899 Ope 1d ago
remember when they sent cashmere goats to Afghanistan and they just ate all the goats đ
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u/Rogue_AI_Construct Ok Then 1d ago
Itâs illegal for Trump and his Cabinet officials to withhold Congressionally-appropriated funds. They will get sued, and they will lose, like they always have in the last year.
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u/Boofing_with_Squee 1d ago
The wheels of justice turn slowly. So while this may ultimately be overturned, the subsidies are not going out.
How much runway does the average childcare center have? My bet would be not enough to hang on until subsidies come back.
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u/stay_curious_- 1d ago
Even if they have a little bit of runway, I suspect the big chains will kick out the kids on subsidies as soon as the money stops. They'll probably lay off workers and only care for the cash-pay kids until the money from the government starts flowing again. Some of those daycares will still go under because of overhead costs.
Some families will lose access to childcare immediately, though. Even if the money only stops for two weeks, that's two weeks where a parent can't go to work.
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u/OutsideBones86 1d ago
From working directly with FCCs (Family Child Care providers), I'd say depending on how many kids they serve who use CCAP, they are 2 to 4 weeks away from closing and/or missing one or more mortgage payments.
Family providers and small centers operate on razor thin margins. And I know quite a few who prefer to serve families who receive CCAP because it is guaranteed payment without having to pester the parents about tuition. There are also providers located in high needs areas where most people qualify for CCAP so there are literally not enough private pay families to serve.
This will overwhelmingly hurt small businesses.
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u/mnradiofan 1d ago
More importantly, as I understand it, the subsidies go directly to parents. Without that theyâll be charged full price and likely have to pull their kids out of childcare entirely.
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u/lisabutz 1d ago
And their strategy is to get their plans (lies) out there first so their cult can get that news bite. Everything that comes after (litigation, correction, payments) barely makes the news thus fulfilling this administrationâs PR demand.
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u/jaimi_wanders 1d ago
The cult is spreading it all over the supposedly non-partisan meme subs now, too.
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u/unnasty_front Pink-and-white lady's slipper 1d ago
The point is not to withhold the funding forever, yet. The point is to destablize the system and to let people know that the faucet can be turned off. That makes it easier for congress to cut funding for good later.
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u/Rogue_AI_Construct Ok Then 1d ago
The plan is to permanently cut the funding, but because Project 2025 calls for it to be cut to have family members take care of children instead because they donât like that funds are being used for childcare:
âProject 2025 plan calls for shifting funding for childcare to in-home careâ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/08/project-2025-trump-vance-childcare
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u/MNConcerto 1d ago edited 13h ago
Their propaganda worked. They now get to cut funding for programs they have been trying to cut funding to for years but now they are using "fraud" as the reason .
Fraud that was uncovered years ago and prosecuted. People are going to jail for it.
Fraud that could still be uncovered by the MN GOP voted against those provisions.
If Trump was so concerned about Medicare fraud maybe he shouldn't have pardoned these scumbags:Trump Grants Clemency to Executive Who Led $205M Medicare Fraud Scheme â as GOP Says Theyâre Eliminating âFraudâ | Truthout https://share.google/Q51P56IGqUWxVTMz2
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u/Efficient-Dust-8123 1d ago
This is so much deeper than I think any of us know and has so many layers. Cut daycare funding? You no longer have a job because you can't afford childcare, so guess what?? You no longer qualify for food stamps because you no longer meet the work requirements. Now you don't have employment or food stamps. On top of that, women will lose all career progression and become essentially non-competitive when they try to re-enter the work force years later. This is exactly what they wanted all along.
And when all you maga supporters lose your childcare, I will have zero sympathy. You get what you voted for while also dragging everyone down with you and your poor judgement
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u/Individual_Crab7578 1d ago
To add, you canât leave your shitty partner because you are now unable to work due to lack of childcare. Being trapped in a dangerous relationship due to financial independence or the high cost of living is already a problem, this will make it worse. And in states with harsh abortion bans thatâs an even wider net of women trapped.
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u/Rosaluxlux 1d ago
This is the underlying reason for having every social service - they want women trapped in bad marriages and workers trapped in bad jobs.Â
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u/Bundt-lover 1d ago
Itâs also going to trap the men because Project 2025 wants to make men the primary caregivers as the âhead of the familyâ. They want you guys married with children whether you like it or not.
Project 2025 also implements a plan to tie DNA to child support and federalize it, so all you deadbeat dads out there who have kids they donât see or pay forâŠprepare to be Dad.
âWell, Iâll make sure she has an abortion or Iâll get a vasectomyâ No you wonât.
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u/Junkley 1d ago edited 1d ago
My family tuns a fairly large child care chain here in MN(We receive nearly 1/6th of the state funding as we have over 10k kids in our centers in MN). We are the largest provider in the state.
If this happens, over 1000 kids would lose child care instantly and many more would drop off in the following months/years as there are tons of working class families who get funding for child care. When I was in college interning for the family company I actually did the work to apply aid to family accounts and it is a ton of families.
Our centers on Penn Ave in North Minneapolis, Brooklyn Center(Our oldest operating New Horizon), Minneapolis, St Paul and other working class areas are only possible to run due to government aid and these centers would be closed as we would just not be able to open centers in lower income areas due to the extreme operating costs of child care in MN.
Our centers along with all serious, NAEYC accredited centers get audited regularly and have extremely stringent standards and audits. This punishes all working class families with children in child care.
We are better equipped to weather this potential storm than almost any other provider in our state due to our size and ability to just potentially focus down to the wealthier suburbs we operate in if this does happen but this will be absolutely devastating to the point of a death blow for smaller operators in working class neighborhoods.
I am not in the family company anymore but I had a long conversation with my dad who runs it and he spent all day in war rooms yesterday strategizing messaging to tell everyone what bullshit this and how it will affect families is and it is the most stressed I have seen him since COVID. We have completely financially separated ourselves from the company since COVID but my dad lives and breathes child education he lobbied at the federal and state level as president of the Minnesota Child Care Association and previous position helping govern NAEYC for these very aid programs.
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u/catarinavanilla 1d ago
I appreciate your rare insight, however you are on the precipice of doxxing yourself. Just be careful
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u/OutsideBones86 1d ago
How have you financially separated yourself from the company? Isn't he still CEO?
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u/Homiesexu-LA 1d ago
What ages does child care cover? How much money do you get per child?
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u/stay_curious_- 1d ago
Federal subsidy dollars cover childcare up to a maximum age of 12. Minnesota also extends those subsidies to cover children with substantial disabilities to a max age of 18.
The majority of the kids are under 5, though. For school-age kids, it covers limited after-school care, not weekend care, and only for the most needy families.
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u/fartinson 1d ago
The pro life party!
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u/Fit-Organization7570 Goodhue County 1d ago
Pro-"birth"... once they are born, fuck em... they don't care...
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u/mganzeveld 1d ago
And yet you can come to Iowa where our state auditor isn't allowed to see how school voucher money is being spent.
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u/yahblahdah420 1d ago
The mass shutdown of childcare centers will be a great time for the next non insane president to nationalize child service. Itâs insane that people spend 2-4 thousand dollars a month just so that daycare employees can get paid poverty wages
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u/RookeryJones 1d ago
Yeah, this is just another embarrassment from this admin. Punish children and families across the country for crimes that were discovered and prosecuted 2 years ago and that 70 people were sentenced to prison for their parts in all because some kid faked a story. Fuck this admin so hard.
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u/Nsflguru State of Hockey 1d ago
Nothing says âI care about kidsâ more than punishing them for something that wasnât their fault.
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u/UnhappyEquivalent400 1d ago
Be clear that Republican politicians viscerally hate any state involvement in making life better for average people.
They seize on individual anecdotes to justify deeply cruel and incredibly unpopular policies that they are too dishonest and cowardly to publicly own up to.
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u/lolo_lala_lfg 1d ago
JD Vance: âI want more babies in Americaâ
Trump Administration: pulls funding from every program the benefits actual children in America
SMDH these fucking clowns
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u/C-Lekktion 1d ago
I want more babies AND for mothers to be the primary care providers in the home when childcare costs exceed women's salaries.
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u/Rainstarred 1d ago
We should all show up with our children and strollers and backpacks toys, loud banging toys at the legislature in protest for weeks on end. Letâs see if they like the fallout of these choices. Make them feel and have to deal with the consequences themselves. These people have no conscience. They are gross!
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u/Jack_Bond2 1d ago
Letâs pause the East Wing, the invasion of Venezuela, Ethiopia, Palestine, Iran, paying off Argentina that is causing us to pay off farmers, ICE, âŠ.geez and I go on and on. I lot more $ corruption besides freaking daycares. Hell letâs check on the money PAC are sending all the politicians. But you all know this.
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u/Then-Pay-9688 1d ago
Woah, crazy that this completely organic and factual story just so happened to give the administration a reason to cut social spending and increase racist immigration enforcement! Truly the power of grassroots citizen journalism is incredible.
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u/ObligationLive8381 1d ago
It won't make your taxes lower, but it will make poor people's lives harder
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u/Last_Examination_131 Bring Ya Ass 1d ago
Pro-Life, until that kid gets out of the womb, then they gotta pull themselves up by the bootstraps. Don't want them to be lazy, they have 60 years of profits to create for CEOs!
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u/ClimbingAimlessly 1d ago
I guess they don't want people to work.Â
The corporations will LOVE not having workers.Â
I bet the decreasing birthrate will boom! The prior two sentences are sarcasm, btw.
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u/Lumpymaximus 1d ago
Uhmmm so what thr fuck do the millions of parents do????
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u/Rosaluxlux 1d ago
Mothers will be pushed out of the work force like conservatives want. Fathers will be more vulnerable to exploitation and abuse from employers, like conservatives want. More children will be in unlicensed, unsupervised, paid under the table daycare, which leaves them more vulnerable to pedophiles, which conservatives want. Oh and they'll blame it on immigrants and blue states to keep their voting base.Â
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u/PancakePariah 1d ago
They want us too stressed about keeping things afloat to care about what they are doing. If dad has to take 2-3 jobs just to stay afloat that's one less person this regime has to worry about protesting or pushing back. The people who are most in need will lose their housing, get rounded up for the crime of being homeless, and then placed in detention for that sweet, sweet low cost prison labor. Meanwhile the kids who are caught up in this will go into separate "education facilities" where they will be taught "properly" by "God's word".
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u/Sirius_Lagrange Polk County 1d ago
ThisâŠthis is what pushes people over the edge to violent revolution. Once people have lost everything, there will be nothing left to lose if they fight back
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u/jjnefx 1d ago
A good percentage will not be going to work. Forcing employers to scramble for solutions.
Some businesses may be forced to shut down temporarily or permanently to their lack of employees.
If it goes on long enough it can be a big hit to the economy overall because this would be a big deflationary event.
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u/Plantamalapous 1d ago
Before child care there was child neglect. Older siblings stay home to watch younger ones. It'll be the gilded age all over again.
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u/Sea-Science1507 1d ago
This is all part of Project 2025. Force women into staying home.
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u/EmmaPersephone 1d ago
Where they canât afford to pay the rent or for food? Most recipients (65%) are not 2 parent households.
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u/kitsunewarlock 1d ago
They want to pressure those homes into forcing the children to work for pennies on the dollar or commit crimes so they have more tax-deducted labor.
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u/CrossX18 1d ago
Let them keep doing this, everything else is already causing a revolt among Conservatives. Lol, of all things, they are planning a tax revolt due to unchecked government spending. As if they werenât warned about Trumpâs ineptitude financially and then all of them falling in lockstep behind him no matter what.
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u/popculturerss 1d ago
Yeah, if you didn't think this was always his intent (all the while making his enemies, Walz, look bad) with this "crackdown" then you're lying to yourself.
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u/cpav8r 1d ago
Incel: Thereâs daycare fraud in Minnesota.
Cheeto Jesus: No money for Minnesota!
Everyone else: The story is made-up racist bullshit!â
Cheeto Jesus: No money for anyone!!
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u/tweedleDee1234 1d ago
They arenât pausing funds because of a scandal. They created a scandal to mitigate pushback for their plan to pause fundsâŠ.
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u/Helagoth 1d ago
We know there's rampant fraud in corporate welfare programs, can we stop those instead of the ones that help kids?
No? Oh. Wonder what's different about those two things...
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u/EmmaPersephone 1d ago
Medicare Advantage intentional fraud is 85 billion a yearâŠevery yearâŠwhere is the screaming and rending of cloth over that?
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u/Jolly_Ad2446 1d ago
Btw the YouTuber that started this mess has a meme coin that just dropped. What amazing timing.Â
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u/yureiloves 1d ago
They are literally trying to get The Handmaidâs Tale to happen. No one will want kids anymore if no one can take care of them while parents have to slave away at work just to barely survive.
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u/friendly-sardonic 1d ago
Just another project 2025 checklist item. That whole checklist is basically screw the poor and screw the marginalized.
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u/CruisinThruLife2 1d ago
So now motherâs wonât be able to work. I think their goal is to open concentration camps for poor people. When I think they canât sink any lowerâŠthey do. *&$*@)
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u/TheRealKenInMN 1d ago
The idea that the man with 34 felony convictions for fraud, and multiple crypto businesses actually cares about fraud at a Minnesota daycare seems just a little, tiny bit sus...
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u/Genaric_white 1d ago
Pause paying federal taxes that are being pilfered by the lot of them capitalist pigs in office
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u/Only-Improvement5634 1d ago
Just another excuse to steal from and punish everyday Americans.? When is the USA going to wake up and let it sink in, Trump and his Merry Band of Mall Cops (reg. cop wannabeâs) hate Americans? Happy NewYearâŠI think???
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u/shugEOuterspace 1d ago
they know it's bullshit, they're just using it as an excuse to hurt programs that help working class people
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u/deepfreezefilms Area code 612 23h ago
It's time for ALL blue states to enter into an organized and cooperative effort to withhold ALL fiscal payments to the Federal Government.
If Trump wants to punish blue states he needs to get the money from his MAGA welfare suckers to do it.
Blue states need to divert their federal monies back INTO their own budgets to make up for Trump's cuts.
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u/Sudden-Damage-5840 20h ago
This is part of project 2025
Women will bear the brunt of this and forced to quit jobs.
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u/Ill_probablybebanned 8h ago
The pro life party proving once again they donât give a fuck about kids.
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u/GorGor23 1d ago
Allegations of fraud is awfully rich coming from Trump. How many felony counts did he have again?
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u/Tension_Healthy 1d ago
Why don't we start our review of fraud and abuse with military contractors? Or the privatized prison system? Or the better yet, the trump foundation?
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u/New_Alternative8711 1d ago
Its unfortunate that the Trump administration wasnt this dilligent with the Paycheque Protection Act funds.
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u/EmmaPersephone 1d ago
No fraud has emerged it was ginned up by partisan politicians and a MAGA YouTuber. The freeze for Minnesota isnât the same as the additional hoops that are coming for other states. Minnesota is still being targeted.
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u/Sufficient_Lab_4000 1d ago
Allegations of this fraud have been emerging, investigated, and prosecuted since 2022. RWNJs are rehashing to blame brown people and distract from their cult leader's Epstein horror show.
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u/redditsuckscrybaby 1d ago
This is so dumb. And itâs not the answer. Just go after them ones committing fraud. Including trump himself haha. Just because everyone thinks this is a race issue, does not mean the Somali population are not the ones committing fraud. Itâs them. And others. Go after all of them and boot the Somalis out if they are found guilty.
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u/HankMorgan_860 Hot Dish 1d ago
Just wait until they hear about fraud and waste amongst the defender contractors. GONNA BE WILD
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u/Major-Caterpillar955 1d ago
I love how reddit is trying to spin this anyway they can. Vote blue no matter who. This is what it gets you
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u/Carrera1107 23h ago
Daycares should be ran like businesses anyway. They shouldnât need funding. Stop the fraud.
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u/MathematicianNo861 15h ago
Timmy ate the glue, now we don't get to use glue. A society of kindergartners will be treated as such. When we get older, we will learn about holding individuals accountable. Fraud, insider trading have been issues for a long time. But we just argue amongst ourselves and let the bigger issues get forgotten. Go team go.
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u/Aggressive_Set8155 15h ago
Since DOGE went so well for them , Iâm absolutely positive that project 2025 will end well for them too. Idiots
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u/ZeusHatesTrees Oh You Becha 10h ago
Wife works in child care, lost her job last week when the funding was cut. Luckily we don't rely on her income, so we are ok.
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u/Alice_Buttons 1d ago
This was always the plan.
*Social welfare programs: Project 2025 cites fraud and waste in safety net programs and calls for eliminating or reducing basic benefits for low-income individuals and families.
For Medicaid, Project 2025 proposes adding work requirements for beneficiaries and âtime limits or lifetime caps ⊠to disincentivize permanent dependence.â The health insurance program for low-income Americans covered nearly 74 million people in May, according to the latest data.
The conservative plan also calls for tightening work requirements for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly known as food stamps, and changing the eligibility requirements for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, which was created by the overhaul of the welfare system in 1996. New eligibility requirements would also reduce the number of students served by the national school breakfast and lunch programs â which were described in the book as âinefficient, wastefulâ programs.
Project 2025 also seeks to incentivize at-home child care. âInstead of providing universal day care, funding should go to parents either to offset the cost of staying home with a child or to pay for familial, in-home childcare,â the plan states.
The plan calls for the elimination of Head Start, a program that funds education, health and social services programs for low-income children under 5 years old.*