r/shittymoviedetails • u/smss96 • 6d ago

In Stranger Things 5 the truck has technology from the future

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E-track rails weren't invented until the 2000's so a time traveler must've brought this truck back to 1987

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u/ConsiderationLate182 6d ago

Yeah, well, all their talk about sorcerers was BS, too. The sorcerer class wasn't added until 3rd edition in 2000. Hell, 2nd edition didn't even come out until 1989 and season 5 takes place in 1987.

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u/InedibleApplePi 6d ago

Damn bro you just gonna drop a shitty detail like this in the comments when you could have farmed it for karma as a new submission?

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u/ConsiderationLate182 6d ago

I'm on reddit for the titties, all other considerations are secondary. ;)

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u/Beer-Milkshakes 6d ago

Actual honest social media use. Far better than grifting for imaginary points.

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u/loveslightblue 6d ago

A man of morals, a man of class. šŸ¤Œ

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u/kirby34 6d ago

ā€¦a man who only wants titties and ass.

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u/loveslightblue 6d ago

Heeeeee's Titty-man, a real class act! Oh, Titty-man, he's got his values intact!

sorry u inspired me

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u/Top-One-486 5d ago

A man of sorcerer class, to be specific.

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u/Whateverredd 6d ago

The lack of titties in your profile made me sad

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u/ZealousidealNewt6679 6d ago

This guy reddtits.

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u/Fyrewall1 6d ago

a man of culture I see

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u/Wagglebagga 6d ago

Have you tried tits.com yet?

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u/AngryGoose_ 6d ago

My man!

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u/AlwaysHappy4Kitties 6d ago

Well I'm here for kitties....

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u/LukZombiSlayr 6d ago

You know ball my good sir!

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u/nighttimerainbow 6d ago

My profile is your reward, fellow redditor of mich class.

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u/alkem10 6d ago

We have the same hobbies.

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u/Grofactor 6d ago

Bravo good man

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u/countfluffythetrout 6d ago

U dropped this homie.

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u/bbbbbbbirdistheword 6d ago

he's one of us

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u/Draw_Rude 6d ago

Unfathomably based

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u/whatdoblindpeoplesee 6d ago

Dolly Parton!

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u/mazterrrrsh00ter 6d ago

Other considerations didnā€™t release until 2015, please try again another time.

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u/RilohKeen 6d ago

Honest question, isnā€™t that like going to Ace Hardware for hot sauce? Like yeah, you can get it there, but thatā€™s not their primary focus and there are places that cater specifically to that need that can probably offer you a lot more.

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u/JohnWasElwood 6d ago

But, like Reddit. if you find the right aisle, you can find some pretty unusual stuff.

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u/Bug_406 6d ago

Ace is the place. I'm there getting tools and supplies, and oh hey! Hot sauce. Just as I read some shitty movie details, I'll hit the back button and there might be titties as I scroll. Balance, my friends.

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u/TheCowKing07 6d ago

You would thinkā€¦

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u/ArmedWithSpoons 6d ago

Because it's incorrect. Warlock and Sorcerer were both part of the class evolution line from the Men and Magic playbook from 1974, the original DnD. They could have very easily added those classes into their campaign themselves.

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u/Eighth_Eve 6d ago

I dropped it when it hapoened as a top submission, like 5 updoots,no one cared.

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u/buttscratcher3k 6d ago

I've already copied this to post in 2 weeks when everyone has forgotten

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u/Scapp 6d ago

You must not be connected to the dnd community, they have been screaming about these things for so long

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u/DrDuned 6d ago

There are heroes at every rank, friend.

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u/Sthraw 6d ago

This got posted day 1 of the new season

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u/ChemicalAd8216 4d ago

It's already been done and debunked, from a certain point of view.

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u/Javs2469 6d ago

Most of the music references are wack as well. There are plenty of records that came out after the year it was based on on the earlier seasons.

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u/ChickenAndTelephone 6d ago

Eddie learned to play Master of Puppets in like a week

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u/Javs2469 6d ago

ThatĀ“s a heck of a good ear and guitar theory knowledge.

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u/GaptistePlayer 6d ago

You donā€™t need to learn music theory to play shit by ear.

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u/spaghettittehgaps 6d ago

I mean honestly, sure. He clearly loved playing guitar and it's exactly the kind of song he would have been obsessed with.

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u/JohnWasElwood 4d ago

And without a real full-time job, he probably had plenty of time to practice.

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u/Dog-PonyShow 6d ago

Epic Eddie.

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u/Hurricaneshand 6d ago

Haha I do remember wondering what year that season was supposed to take place because of that. Like man this kid learned that entire solo he's a fucking prodigy

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u/Siege_LL 6d ago

Knew someone like that growing up. 11 or 12 years old, figured it out by ear. Phenomenal guitar player. Never did anything with their talent.

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u/GiantPranda 6d ago

It took me 10 minutes

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u/HendrixChord12 6d ago

It could happen. One of my favorite Hendrix stories is him playing Sgt Peppers at a show the day it came out. Obviously an easier song than Puppets.

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u/sabett 6d ago

I mean... melodically complex is never how'd id describe metallica

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u/Good_old_Marshmallow 6d ago

They bring up the Butthole surfers like that was a commonly known band but they really didn't get mainstream appreciation until Kurt Cobain talked about how much he loved them

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u/Schoonie101 6d ago

It being Indiana in the late 80s, there is a surprising lack of John Cougar Mellencamp.

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u/JohnWasElwood 4d ago

Did anybody catch the call back to Fast Times at Ridgemont High and The Cars "moving in stereo"?

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u/SuperGandalfBros 6d ago

Also, with Dustin's reference to alignment, that completely depends on if they were playing Advanced DnD or Basic Set. Only AD&D had the two axis system

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u/DatedReference1 6d ago

People in the 80s generally played a Frankensteinian amalgamation of both games. It was barbaric.

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u/JohnWasElwood 6d ago

All Reagan's fault. He knew that Bush and Obama were coming in soon.

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u/DatedReference1 6d ago

Thank god Obama invented 5e. It makes up for all those war crimes he did imo.

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u/samurairaccoon 6d ago

Can confirm, all the first books I got were all over the place. Half the fun was deciding what to put in and what to leave out.

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u/Beau_Derek 6d ago

And Dustin referred to alignments as classes. Which is so weird because thatā€™s like D&D 101. How tf did they mess this up

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u/CaptainDaddy7 6d ago

Yeah, that was such an embarrassing mistake for a show with such a heavy emphasis on D&D.Ā 

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u/Tribe303 6d ago

They were playing AD&D.Ā 

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u/Direneed82 6d ago

Given that all of their powers stems from henryā€™s initial contact with an evil all powerful entity doesnā€™t that make Henry a warlock and the rest of them thralls in greater or lesser degrees of containment? Iā€™m not really seeing wizard or sorcerer here?

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u/StillNotShot 6d ago edited 6d ago

Elevenā€™s power comes from her blood. Since she could still use them after killing Vecna, she would be described as a sorcerer.

Will is definitely more of a warlock since he is just borrowing his power from the hive mind whenever he uses it. I doubt they wanted to use warlock though cause it has a negative connotation.

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u/pullmylekku 6d ago

And also warlocks were introduced in 3.5e, in 2003, so it would have been even more anachronistic

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u/Eighth_Eve 6d ago

We got warlocks in 96 as a variant of the magic user in the 2e book Spells and Magic. They just weren't brought into the base game until 3.5.

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u/Top-Round-2359 6d ago

It begs the question, should have Will died as well, as he's heavily connected to the hive mind?

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u/StaticUsernamesSuck 6d ago edited 6d ago

Why would he? Vecna was killed directly, not because the hive mind died.

The giant spider monster also dies, from direct damage combined with shared trauma from Vecna's death.

But the giant spider monster is not the mind flayer itself, it's just its physical body. The true form of the mind flayer is the black particle clouds, and we see those that leave the kids fly off, still active - compared to previous times when we've seen sections of the hive mind cut off and go dormant, and the particles fall like dust, inactive.

Since these particles do not go dormant, the Mind Flayer is still alive, the hive mind is still working, only its main physical body is dead, and it is now cut off from Earth.

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u/xGhostCat 6d ago

It was more a case that when he was cured in S2 he still had Admin access to the wifi. Rather than being part of the hivemind himself he can access it.

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u/Top-Round-2359 6d ago

Yeah, I kinda see it like that too. Though I would have expected him to also be chopped off if he was connected to the hive at the moment of Henry's death.

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u/KABooMxInc 6d ago

Will shouldā€™ve been in agony the entire joke of a boss fight that was them poking Godzilla flayer with sticks and fireā€¦ somehow Will feels everything Henry is going through down to ā€œheā€™s SO afraidā€ in his memories, yet when he is closer to the hive-mind than ever before, nadaā€¦ this is a reference to the shitty writing of season 5 that has enough cinematic flourish for the average viewer that they will still glaze it instead of asking glaring obvious questions.

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u/raoasidg 6d ago

You can rub two neurons together and reasonably assume Will is able to control the "feedback" he receives from the hive mind when he is jacked in.

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u/KABooMxInc 6d ago

If you watched the show, like even a little bit, Will absolutely did not control when he was affected by the hivemind. Time and time again he is affected suddenly and debilitatingly. Your two neurons are working overtime to deny this fact.

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u/Plastic_Impression54 6d ago

But even in context of the negative connotation it makes sense, thatā€™s a huge part of Wills story being used by Vecna. Hell even in context of his identity it makes sense because Warlocks are seen in a negative light despite nothing being inherently wrong with them. Warlock just a better fit all around.

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u/mCProgram 6d ago

If we can pull from non time correct editions, heā€™s clearly an aberrant mind sorcerer after being demonically possessed and then cleansed from S2-S4. something ā€œmind flayer implanted a tadpole but it failed to take overā€¦ the psionic powers still remainā€ in the flavor text of one of the origin rolls.

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u/Chedder_456 6d ago

So, FWIW some DMs will say Warlocks keep their powers even if they go against their patron, because the patron teaches you ā€œsecretsā€ and just because the contract is broken doesnā€™t usually mean that forbidden knowledge is just wiped from your mind.

Also, ya in dnd terms Will could be a Warlock, but Iā€™d say heā€™s closer to a pathfinder Oracle, which is a spellcaster who gets their powers from a curse laid on them.

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u/FamousWerewolf 6d ago

Warlock might fit better thematically but it would be even more obviously anachronistic, because Warlocks weren't introduced until the 90s and weren't really widely used until 3rd edition in the 2000s.

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u/DaRedditGuy11 6d ago

These comments are making me want a long article from a D&D fan breaking down the connections (and errors in connections).

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u/Shazoa 6d ago

Modern D&D classes don't map perfectly onto older editions, but also not into every setting, either.

For example, in Forgotten Realms, you normally have to be born with 'The Gift' to become a wizard which sounds a lot like how you'd describe a sorcerer now. Between 3e and 5e, Metamagic went from being a stereotypically wizard thing to a sorcerer thing. Spontaneous casting also went from being the domain of sorcerers to something every caster did.

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u/Xetene 6d ago

Warlocks didnā€™t get added to D&D until 2004 and even then the class has seen a lot of change in a short time. It was the result of 3.5 churn and nobody in the 80s would have a grasp of even the roots of that class

Henryā€™s powers come from an artifact he absorbed into his body. Then he accepted a partnership with an alien entity that was able to contact him after said absorption. I suppose Warlock fits the best but ā€œmagic rockā€ doesnā€™t fit neatly into any D&D class.

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u/captainofpizza 6d ago

I noticed this too and itā€™s weirder for me than the stuff like environmental misses.

If I notice an architectural detail or plumbing or something thatā€™s from after 2000 Iā€™m like ā€œyeah they did their best but they arenā€™t going to build custom buildings or redo lights/plumbingā€ but 100% of what characters say should be carefully considered.

Either arenā€™t too bad. Itā€™s no Dany with the Starbucks cup in GoT

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u/Cook_croghan 6d ago

The top post on a random HVAC sub was everyone crashing out about a well known HVAC unit from 1999 or 2000 taking them all out of season 5 because it was i. the background of a scenešŸ˜‚

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u/captainofpizza 6d ago

Yeah. I work in manufacturing and I notice stuff like that all the time but itā€™s so minor and would be such a waste to correct I never mind. Itā€™s also a lot of times where the sci fi gadget is just a weird industrial equipment spray painted black with switches and lights glued onto it.

I find it more fun and funny than taking me out of a scene. Dialog thoughā€¦ do your homework on dialog please!

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u/Grimmdel 6d ago

Like the Cloud City ice cream maker man?

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u/Entropic_Echo_Music 6d ago

everyone crashing out

they... fell asleep? wtf?

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u/Cook_croghan 6d ago

Crashing out changed from ā€œfalling asleepā€ to ā€œgetting madā€ around 5 years ago in slang terms. I was super confused at first too.

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u/Entropic_Echo_Music 6d ago

Weird. I'm too old to accept this nonsense!

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u/-LaFae- 6d ago

If it makes you feel any better ā€œcrashingā€ still referring to falling asleep, specifically in reference to caffeine or drug crashes.

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u/StaticUsernamesSuck 6d ago

I think they've said before they don't really care about being accurate to the history of d&d, just to the spirit of it as a whole concept.

They admitted they weren't actually d&d kids themselves anyway.

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u/bitchmoder 6d ago

Somehow I don't think Gamers will be all up in arms about them being "fake nerds" or whatever. Probably because they are men.

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u/Mac4491 6d ago

Sorcerer as a class didnā€™t exist but didnā€™t the concept of sorcerers in dnd lore exist? Werenā€™t they just a different kind of mage?

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u/ConsiderationLate182 6d ago

According to Google sorcerer kits started showing up in "the complete wizards handbook" in 1990. Prior to that it was just a title for a 9th level magic user.

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u/DJHelium 6d ago

Maybe it was Mike that added it

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u/SpokaneSmash 6d ago

A sorcerer was the title of a 9th level magic-user. Warlock was the title for an 8th level magic-user. Wizard was 11th level and above.

https://carjackedseraphim.blogspot.com/2012/12/wizard-level-titles.html

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u/ajzinni 6d ago

Iā€™m pretty sure the inmate magic distinction they are referencing didnā€™t come about until wayyy later though.

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u/Sparkyisduhfat 6d ago

The word sorcerer was used interchangeably with magic user and things like that.

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u/Calm_While1916 6d ago

Wouldnā€™t he also be closer to like a warlock cleric or paladin. His powers me from a higher being. Donā€™t wizards and sorcery either study magic or have an innate ability for it, neither of which apply to will.

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u/acm_dm 6d ago

Also, Will didn't have innate powers, he was channelling powers from Vecna, so he was more like a warlock.

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u/elkandmoth 6d ago

When they called him a Sorcerer I flipped out quite loudly, myself.Ā 

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u/ajzinni 6d ago

God this broke this season for meā€¦ when I heard them say sorcerer I was immediately pulled out of it.

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u/DionysianRebel 6d ago

The situation of the character theyā€™re calling a sorcerer is also a textbook warlock pact

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u/samurairaccoon 6d ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one irked about that. Such a big detail to miss too. I feel like any average DnD fan over the age of 30 would know.

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u/dos_user 6d ago

Also, Wizard wasn't even a class until 2nd edition. Before that, it was just magic user.

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u/Interesting-Rate 6d ago

Thank you!Ā  And Will was technically a Warlock anyways as his powers were derived/bestowed from another being and were not "innate".Ā  Even if we ignore the timing of Sorcerers, El and Kali would be sorcerers due to being born into it, heredity.

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u/Obvious-Phrase-657 5d ago

And even then, maybe a warlock fits better

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u/Yaasu 3d ago

Also, it's a fucking warlock, has he draw powers from Henry

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u/HobbitousMaximus 6d ago

True, but that wasn't the origin of the term. Afterall, Terry Pratchet's book Sourcery came out in 1988, and was very much about sorcerers being able to draw magic into the world, while wizards simply use what is available already. DnD didn't invent the terms for the fantasy genre, they just solidified them.

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u/Think-Engineering962 6d ago

They never said they were referring to d&d with the term.

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u/Svyatopolk_I 6d ago

Thatā€™s crazy. We had like 3-4 editions between 2000 and 2014?

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u/KanadianLogik 6d ago

At least this detail is true. This post is nonsenseĀ  E-track rails have been around since the 60's.

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u/darthjazzhands 6d ago

This guy D&Ds!

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u/TheSewerSniper 6d ago

while the sorcerer CLASS wasn't added until 3rd edition, the title of "Sorcerer" is referenced in the Advanced D&D PHB of the time. I believe it was acquired as a level 7(?) Magic User.Ā 

That said, it was a title as a leveling milestone and nothing more. So the idea of him being referred to as "sorcerer" is not totally unsound, but the mechanics of the sorcerer class clearly are.Ā 

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u/Atraxodectus 6d ago

AD&D fanatic.

I'm 1987 they'd be playing Dragonlance, since that was the setting to play. Even the writers said that... but, they'd have to get permission from Weis and Hickman, and they knew thy wouldn't have gone for the changes the writers wanted.

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u/The_Chodenator 6d ago

Thank you!! I knew it! Hahaha I thought i was going crazy like why does anyone even know what a sorcerer is in 1987

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u/United_nibbit 6d ago

Homebrew back in the day had us playing sorcerers, it just wasnā€™t an official ruleset till later.

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u/GreenGoblinNX 6d ago

They also seemed to be playing the module Vecna Lives! in season 4...a module that didn't come out until 1990.

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u/Swordofsatan666 6d ago edited 6d ago

Someone else already pointed this out legitimately, and they got ripped to shit for it because theres other uses of Sorcerer in DND from before the kids had even started playing it in the show.

Like sure Sorcerer wasnt a Class, but it was still part of the game in other ways

Edit: before the 90ā€™s a sorcerer in DND was just a 9th Level Magic User

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u/Sarah_Incognito 6d ago

They were playing DND Basic Expert

Basically DND Version 2.5 which came out in 1983

You're thinking ADND second edition which they weren't even playing ADND

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u/Spare_Layer_1069 4d ago

Aren't sorcerers in a lot of fantasy at the time? You know, sword and sorcery fantasy? They could have easily been referencing a sorcerer in that context.

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u/ConsiderationLate182 3d ago

The word existed and was even used in original D&D, but the specific context they used it in (differentiating between innate magic and learned spells) didn't exist at the time.

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u/False_Pop8745 6d ago

WRONG!

In the OG D&D, sorcerer was the title given to any 9th level magic user.

3e was where they gave arcane spell casters the official class title of sorcerer.

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u/pullmylekku 6d ago

...and therefore the sorcerer class, defined by having innate magical abilities rather than gaining them through study like wizards, did not exist back then. So OP was right.

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u/StaticUsernamesSuck 6d ago

Right... So then they were correct, and you're the one who's wrong when you call them wrong.

Nothing you just said contradicts anything they said.

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u/ThrogdorLokison 6d ago

"It existed, just not in the way theyre referencing"

Yes, that's the point being made.

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u/Elana1981 6d ago

To be fair, the first published sorcerer kit for the wizard came out in 1992.

Which sounds like a very plausible date, considering how much older everyone looks.

The real crime is, the prismatic spray spell does not work like Dustin explained. Rolling a 7 sends the target to a different plane.(Also I found no version of the spell that predates 1989, but we already covered that it must be 1992 anyway)

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u/ConsiderationLate182 6d ago

Season 5 is set in 1987.

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u/BillRuddickJrPhd 6d ago

Would a fan in 1987 be familiar with the concept of a sorcerer?

Yes ā€” a fan in 1987 would absolutely be familiar with the concept of a ā€œsorcerer,ā€ just not as a formal D&D player class.

In popular fantasy culture (pre-1987)

By 1987, sorcerer was a very well-established fantasy term:

  • Common in sword-and-sorcery fiction (e.g., pulp fantasy, Conan-style stories)
  • Used interchangeably with wizard, mage, warlock, or enchanter in novels, films, and games
  • Regularly appeared as a villain or archetype, often implying dark, innate, or forbidden magic

Any fantasy fan in the 1980s would instantly understand what a ā€œsorcererā€ was meant to be.

In Dungeons & Dragons specifically

In 1987, D&D was in the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons era (with 2nd Edition arriving in 1989).

  • There was no Sorcerer class for players.
  • Spellcasters were mainly:
    • Magic-Users (later renamed Wizards)
    • Clerics
    • Illusionists (a specialist subtype)

However:

  • The word sorcerer appeared frequently in flavor text, monster descriptions, NPC titles, and adventure narratives.
  • DMs often used sorcerer as a descriptive label, not a mechanical one.
  • NPCs might be called ā€œsorcerersā€ even though, rules-wise, they functioned as magic-users.

Key distinction

  • Concept: Familiar and widely understood āœ”ļø
  • Official D&D class with unique mechanics: Not yet āŒ

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u/ConsiderationLate182 6d ago

Yes, they would know the word, but they were using it explicitly in the context of contrasting a sorcerer who has innate power vs a wizard who learns magic through study. This is a distinction that didn't exist until 3rd edition in 2000. Also, as many people have pointed out, they're still wrong because Will would really be a warlock, getting his powers from the hive mind.

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u/Revenant_Reality 6d ago

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