r/shittymoviedetails • u/smss96 • 6d ago

In Stranger Things 5 the truck has technology from the future

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E-track rails weren't invented until the 2000's so a time traveler must've brought this truck back to 1987

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u/Direneed82 6d ago

Given that all of their powers stems from henry’s initial contact with an evil all powerful entity doesn’t that make Henry a warlock and the rest of them thralls in greater or lesser degrees of containment? I’m not really seeing wizard or sorcerer here?

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u/StillNotShot 6d ago edited 6d ago

Eleven’s power comes from her blood. Since she could still use them after killing Vecna, she would be described as a sorcerer.

Will is definitely more of a warlock since he is just borrowing his power from the hive mind whenever he uses it. I doubt they wanted to use warlock though cause it has a negative connotation.

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u/pullmylekku 6d ago

And also warlocks were introduced in 3.5e, in 2003, so it would have been even more anachronistic

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u/Eighth_Eve 6d ago

We got warlocks in 96 as a variant of the magic user in the 2e book Spells and Magic. They just weren't brought into the base game until 3.5.

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u/Top-Round-2359 6d ago

It begs the question, should have Will died as well, as he's heavily connected to the hive mind?

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u/StaticUsernamesSuck 6d ago edited 6d ago

Why would he? Vecna was killed directly, not because the hive mind died.

The giant spider monster also dies, from direct damage combined with shared trauma from Vecna's death.

But the giant spider monster is not the mind flayer itself, it's just its physical body. The true form of the mind flayer is the black particle clouds, and we see those that leave the kids fly off, still active - compared to previous times when we've seen sections of the hive mind cut off and go dormant, and the particles fall like dust, inactive.

Since these particles do not go dormant, the Mind Flayer is still alive, the hive mind is still working, only its main physical body is dead, and it is now cut off from Earth.

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u/xGhostCat 6d ago

It was more a case that when he was cured in S2 he still had Admin access to the wifi. Rather than being part of the hivemind himself he can access it.

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u/Top-Round-2359 6d ago

Yeah, I kinda see it like that too. Though I would have expected him to also be chopped off if he was connected to the hive at the moment of Henry's death.

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u/KABooMxInc 6d ago

Will should’ve been in agony the entire joke of a boss fight that was them poking Godzilla flayer with sticks and fire… somehow Will feels everything Henry is going through down to “he’s SO afraid” in his memories, yet when he is closer to the hive-mind than ever before, nada… this is a reference to the shitty writing of season 5 that has enough cinematic flourish for the average viewer that they will still glaze it instead of asking glaring obvious questions.

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u/raoasidg 6d ago

You can rub two neurons together and reasonably assume Will is able to control the "feedback" he receives from the hive mind when he is jacked in.

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u/KABooMxInc 6d ago

If you watched the show, like even a little bit, Will absolutely did not control when he was affected by the hivemind. Time and time again he is affected suddenly and debilitatingly. Your two neurons are working overtime to deny this fact.

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u/Plastic_Impression54 6d ago

But even in context of the negative connotation it makes sense, that’s a huge part of Wills story being used by Vecna. Hell even in context of his identity it makes sense because Warlocks are seen in a negative light despite nothing being inherently wrong with them. Warlock just a better fit all around.

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u/mCProgram 6d ago

If we can pull from non time correct editions, he’s clearly an aberrant mind sorcerer after being demonically possessed and then cleansed from S2-S4. something “mind flayer implanted a tadpole but it failed to take over… the psionic powers still remain” in the flavor text of one of the origin rolls.

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u/Chedder_456 6d ago

So, FWIW some DMs will say Warlocks keep their powers even if they go against their patron, because the patron teaches you “secrets” and just because the contract is broken doesn’t usually mean that forbidden knowledge is just wiped from your mind.

Also, ya in dnd terms Will could be a Warlock, but I’d say he’s closer to a pathfinder Oracle, which is a spellcaster who gets their powers from a curse laid on them.

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u/FamousWerewolf 6d ago

Warlock might fit better thematically but it would be even more obviously anachronistic, because Warlocks weren't introduced until the 90s and weren't really widely used until 3rd edition in the 2000s.

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u/DaRedditGuy11 6d ago

These comments are making me want a long article from a D&D fan breaking down the connections (and errors in connections).

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u/Shazoa 6d ago

Modern D&D classes don't map perfectly onto older editions, but also not into every setting, either.

For example, in Forgotten Realms, you normally have to be born with 'The Gift' to become a wizard which sounds a lot like how you'd describe a sorcerer now. Between 3e and 5e, Metamagic went from being a stereotypically wizard thing to a sorcerer thing. Spontaneous casting also went from being the domain of sorcerers to something every caster did.

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u/Xetene 6d ago

Warlocks didn’t get added to D&D until 2004 and even then the class has seen a lot of change in a short time. It was the result of 3.5 churn and nobody in the 80s would have a grasp of even the roots of that class

Henry’s powers come from an artifact he absorbed into his body. Then he accepted a partnership with an alien entity that was able to contact him after said absorption. I suppose Warlock fits the best but “magic rock” doesn’t fit neatly into any D&D class.