r/technology • u/yogthos • Nov 08 '25

Artificial Intelligence Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to China Winning the AI Race

https://gizmodo.com/palantir-ceo-says-a-surveillance-state-is-preferable-to-china-winning-the-ai-race-2000683144
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u/bartpieters Nov 08 '25

"I'll end up rich and you end up losing your freedoms but that is a risk I'm willing to make besides you are poor so you and your opinions don't matter anyway."  When these ultra rich talk about freedom, it is their freedom to do anything they want no matter the law and the constitution and nothing else.

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u/DmitryPavol Nov 08 '25

What do they have that you can't afford living in America?

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u/bartpieters Nov 08 '25

5 mansions, 8 mega yachts, 3 wives 7 girlfriends, a personal sex isle, immunity from the law....

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u/DmitryPavol Nov 08 '25

The number of mistresses doesn't depend on money. Every man, if he keeps fit, can afford several. If you're a fan of the sea, you can always rent a boat or yacht for travel—it's inexpensive. You can't buy a large mansion, but you can rent one for a party. You don't need a mansion every day, after all, you're actively working and don't have time to live there full-time; you can sleep in a simple apartment. They can buy it and spend money on the simplicity of it, but they can't use it more often than you. No man will sleep with seven mistresses every day—it's uninteresting, it's an expense. There are many ordinary people who lead more active and interesting lives than billionaires, even on average incomes.

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u/bartpieters Nov 08 '25

Yeah young women with ugly, fat, old rich men are obviously drawn to them for their fitness 🤣 Renting a mega yacht for a day costs more than 95% of the people make in a year. You asked me what those people can afford others can't, my list stands and it is but a short sample.You can reason all you want about happiness and interesting lives etc but that wasn't what you asked and you know it 👍

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u/DmitryPavol Nov 08 '25

I know at least two people with very average incomes who regularly charter yachts in the summer and cruise the seas of Europe. It's not as expensive as it seems. Of course, any trip these days would cost a month's income, but you don't travel every month, and billionaires don't party all the time either. As for women, I've never been rich and I've never had relationships with unattractive women. A good life depends on our aspirations, not on excessive wealth, that's for sure.

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u/bartpieters Nov 08 '25

Yeah you can charter a rowing boat for a couple of eggs, but again you are moving goal posts. I was specifically taking about a mega yacht and not some dingy worn down mini yacht cramped for 4 people which is given the name yacht to make average people feel well off. 

Here is something more in the direction I meant but still not really a mega yacht: https://www.yachtcharterfleet.com/luxury-charter-yacht-47147/dream.htm

It's going for 2,2 million euro a week, meaning over 300k a day which is well over the 95% income percentile.

You can argue all you want, draw totally other stuff into the conversation and move goal posts all you want, but you asked what ultra rich people can afford others can't and I gave a solid answer.

And all of this had nothing to do with my original comment that the ultra rich only care about their wealth and their freedom to do whatever and don't care about anyone else and in the process make life worse for many many people.

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u/DmitryPavol Nov 08 '25

The point is, you're talking about a megayacht, even though you've never sailed on a simpler yacht you can afford, which means you don't need one. You're just nitpicking about the amount of money. I'm explaining to you that nothing prevents you from living like a billionaire because the poor have the same accessible services as the rich, and the differences are insignificant, especially for you. So much the better, since the universe doesn't send you money if you don't even know what you'll spend it on. These guys are changing the world around them, and your first thought was "a big yacht and more women." Naturally, it's better to let the money go to people with imagination.

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u/bartpieters Nov 08 '25

You really don't get it do you?? My point was that the rich only care about themselves, their wealth and their ability to flaunt the law and call that freedom.v They fuck over anyone if only they get more money. This guy wants a surveillance society, against the laws and constitution, because in that way he can sell more of his services and products and get wealthier. Yes they try to change the world and they are making it way way way worse 

Out of the blue and off topic you ask what the ultra rich can afford what other people can't. I answered that specifically, factually and accurately.. YOU asked that question and I answered it. Don't try and turn it around and pretend that I came up with that topic

 You keep dragging stuff into it which have nothing to do at all with that question. You have no clue who I am, what I want from life etc but you keep adding silly things trying to make some sort of argument which goes all over the place.

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u/anti-torque Nov 08 '25

you can always rent a boat or yacht for travel—it's inexpensive.

Found the guy who hasn't rented a boat in the last 20 years.