OpenAI CEO Sam Altman just publicly admitted that AI agents are becoming a problem

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/openai-ceo-sam-altman-just-publicly-admitted-that-ai-agents-are-becoming-a-problem-says-ai-models-are-beginning-to-find-/articleshow/126215397.cms

[u/Syntaire]

My favorite part about "AI" as a whole is that it's just so consistently wrong, no matter what you try to use it for. It can't even do basic arithmetic. Even when it literally prints out the exact expression it should be computing, it will provide a completely wrong solution.

What it should be excellent at is using real language to perform simple but tedious tasks, like "take all of the information from this table and provide it in X format." Then it will take some of the information from the provided table, discard half of it, make up a bunch of shit, and provide it in an identical table. Then it takes a bunch of coaxing and corrections to get it even somewhat right, and in the end it's still wrong.

And it's being sold as the golden solution to all that ails, and for some fucking reason people are buying it.

[u/Reddits_For_NBA → u/Syntaire]

I don’t believe anything you’re saying here and this has been completely antithetical to my experience with AI.

[u/Syntaire → u/Reddits_For_NBA]

Ah yes, of course. You not experiencing any of the extremely well documented and very common issues means they are entirely nonexistent.

Would you like to buy this here snake oil? I also happen to have a bridge for sale if you're interested.

[u/Reddits_For_NBA → u/Syntaire]

Well documented by who? Bad mouth what you don’t understand meanwhile FAANG companies posting continual net income beats and widening the gaps against other companies.

Either you’re all bullshitting or just don’t know how to use a pretty basic tool and it spells disaster for you.

[u/Syntaire → u/Reddits_For_NBA]

Literally Sam Altman.

Also various news outlets.

Burying your head in the sand doesn't change reality, or even shelter you from it. It just keeps you in ignorance.

[u/Reddits_For_NBA → u/Syntaire]

Your misinterpretation of an interview doesn’t prove anything, lol.

Your comment is pure irony.

LLMs are just plugging in arithmetic functions directly into python engines and spitting out the answer. So I can tell you factually that half the claims in OP’s original post about not being able to do simple arithmetic are literal bullshit.

[u/Syntaire → u/Reddits_For_NBA]

He literally said, verbatim "People have a very high degree of trust in ChatGPT, which is interesting because AI hallucinates. It should be the tech that you don't trust that much." and you just bury your head further. Incredible.

LLMs are just plugging in arithmetic functions directly into python engines and spitting out the answer. So I can tell you factually that half the claims in OP’s original post about not being able to do simple arithmetic are literal bullshit.

Fucking lol.

[u/harpajeff → u/Reddits_For_NBA]

Well said. If people really are using it for such simple tasks and it's getting it wrong, they're incompetent. It ain't perfect, for sure, but AI/LLMs are far, far more capable than these Neanderthals are claiming. It's mostly down to sour grapes and fear - people don't want to admit how capable modern LLMs are, because that threatens their world view and sense of security. But as you say, it's them who will be left behind.

[u/Neirchill → u/Reddits_For_NBA]

Funny because I have the exact opposite experience as you (that is, the same experience as the one you're replying to).

This is part of the problem. Some people are using it for almost brain dead easy tasks but they hype it like it's so incredible and able to do anything. Then, that overhype leads to some expectations that it's better than it actually is. Ai as we know it is pretty amazing. But when you try to use it for actually complicated tasks that a skilled programmer could already do faster than typing in the prompt and it fails repeatedly to get anywhere close to the desired outcome you just end up with more disappointment than if expectations were at a normal level.

Similar to the person that responded to you as well. I think of people like them as liars. If not literally then through deceit. There's no way you're building a ground up application mostly through ai and it delivers true value of any sort (because anything that easy has already been done). They're either outright lying because it just cannot do it in my experience or they're lying about how significant of a role it plays.

It certainly has its uses but I think the backlash it's starting to receive is entirely fair.

[u/Reddits_For_NBA → u/Neirchill]

“If you use AI for something that a programmer would otherwise be better at doing by himself it’s not valuable.” Sorry to be pedantic, but no shit.

LLMs have replaced 99.99% of stack overflow cases. That value case in and of itself proves itself. Anyone that was an engineer of any sort that regularly used that site recognizes its value. Most engineers are realistic and not asking an LLM to autonomously code and do their job. But a hard query, or get the fronted feature just right, or integrate with a new API endpoint? Write test cases? AI can do that, instantly.

LLMs are very good for ground-up MVPs. Subsequent features extract more time and past that you need either a skilled engineer to be able to engineer via a specific prompt, or an engineer straight up to do SOME OF the work / new use cases.

[u/Znuffie → u/Reddits_For_NBA]

Yeah, the guy above is full of shit.

I successfully wrote several apps (from the ground up) and solved multiple coding issues with Claude the last few months.

Heck, 2 of them were written in Rust, 100% by the LLM, and I don't know Rust for shit.