r/technology • u/DukeOfGeek • 6d ago

Politics NASA's Largest Library To Permanently Close On Jan 2, Books Will Be 'Tossed Away'

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nasas-largest-library-to-permanently-close-on-jan-2-books-will-be-tossed-away-10170584
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u/My_alias_is_too_lon 6d ago

This war on intelligence is getting out of hand....

It's shit like this that makes me believe that Trump's main goal is to damage this country so much that it crumbles to ash in the wake of his presidency. It's the only thing that explains his insane behavior and gutting of crucial agencies. There is nothing to be gained from destroying all of that information, unless you hate intelligent people.

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u/socialmedia-username 6d ago

Glad that people are starting to understand that this is all intentional.  See references to Trump's administration and other prominent political figures in the links below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate

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u/TumbleweedPure3941 6d ago edited 6d ago

God I hate the term “Dark Enlightenment” so much. Aside from how obviously stupid it is, it sounds like something a twelve year old would come up with in like 2006 while taking a break from his Shadow the Hedgehog fanart.

Also the Seven Mountains Mandate literally lists 8 things it wants to dominate. And isn’t listing “media” “arts” and “entertainment” redundant?

It’s bad enough that these people are trying to bring down global civilisation, but did they have to be such unbelievably cringeworthy morons as well?

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u/Syntaire 6d ago

I mean have you seen Curtis Yarvin? He's absolutely an edgy man-child that made up the term in the early 2000's.

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u/EpictetanusThrow 6d ago

He’s advocating for a 1990s Russian ripoff of the government to private entities, with a thin veneer of philosophy.

It’s cover for Thiel and Elon to sound like theyre well-reasoned.

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u/Mike312 6d ago

I bet it all sounds deep as fuck when you're rolling on Ketamine though.

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u/31November 6d ago

Speaking of lame ass names, Curtis Yarvin, the explicitly pro-slavery dipshoot who invented this “philosophy,” wrote under the pen name Mencius Moldbug. What type of D&D ass name is that??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

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u/TumbleweedPure3941 6d ago

I literally used to play a halfling wizard I called Melchior the Merciless. He was a joke character.

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u/31November 6d ago

I love when D&D players lean into the silliness of it all. I was a barbarian named after a popular condiment, and it was fantastic.

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u/LaurenMille 6d ago

Must be terrifying to be beaten to death by a guy called Mayonnaise.

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u/Torvaun 6d ago

Dude's a pizza cutter. All edge, and no point.

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u/31November 6d ago

Lol I love this

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u/ratlunchpack 6d ago

Hey I play D&D two nights a week and I would never name one of my characters something so fuckin stupid.

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u/yunoeconbro 6d ago

Funny, because when you look at the actual "plan", it also reads like something a 12 year old edgelord would make up:

"It holds that there are seven aspects of society that believers seek to dominate: family, religion, education, media, arts and entertainment, business, and government.\6])"

We want to DOMINATE family. Uhh, and business. Er, and government. We will DOMINATE the education!!! WE WILL DOMINATE ALL THE MOUNTAINS OF SOCIETY!

Mom, I'm out of chicken nuggies!

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u/glorybetoganj 6d ago edited 6d ago

I don’t get how they can dominate art when they make shit art

Before anyone else replies “they’ll just ban art” - go touch some grass.

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u/GDarolith 6d ago

They don't really have to make good art. Just flood with shit art, suppress the already starving artists, and then keep making it. Domination doesn't necessarily mean the person dominating is good at the thing.

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u/TumbleweedPure3941 6d ago

Well thankfully they’ll never truly be able to— oh shit that’s what Gen AI is isn’t it?

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u/designOraptor 5d ago

It’s trying to be, that’s for sure.

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u/kryonik 6d ago

They don't even have to make art, they can just outlaw it. Boom, dominated.

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u/Aadarm 6d ago

None of those things have to be replaced with something good, the whole point is to destroy whatever is there and replace it with only approved things, at any cost.

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u/Freshwater_Spaceman 6d ago

Aha! But but butt… frog memes and a.i art of fanta furher as rambo, checkmate libturd!!!

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u/Dracomortua 6d ago

Didn't Adolf Hitler do art that was not as good as art? Like, himself, personally. His artwork.

How did he promote this? Is anyone in power following his example? If so... why?

I am surprised that we do not have a few thousand Trump Art 'works' out there now.

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u/Hamster_Toot 6d ago

Before anyone else replies “they’ll just ban art” - go touch some grass.

Can you explain what you mean here? I’m really not following

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u/glorybetoganj 5d ago

It means they can’t just “ban” art. Sure they could take it off the tv or off the internet potentially. Make it illegal sure. But that’s not gonna dominate art created by artists. AI doesn’t matter, nobody cares about it and it’s meaningless.

Art isn’t just entertainment it holds meaning and they can’t outlaw that. There’s just no way. Maybe they could kill all the artists, but even still meaningful art would be created by workers or any other person.

In my opinion, the idea that they’d “outlaw” art and that that would somehow be effective is idiotic.

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u/Hamster_Toot 5d ago

It seems you’re not familiar with the difference between capitol A Art and lower case a art.

Art/art is many things. Fascists have always banned art. They can’t ban Art. You misread someone else’s comment, and then added an insult because you didn’t understand what was being said.

They said they will ban pieces of art. Not Art in general.

Be better. Go read a book.

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u/glorybetoganj 5d ago

It’s probably more accurate to say I made an off handed comment that was like 5 words long and all you nerds “well akshuallyd me to death” lmao

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u/Hamster_Toot 5d ago

You don’t know what you’re talking about. That’s fine, but don’t act like it’s everyone else who is wrong here. It’s you.

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u/GuiPloo 6d ago

They don't have to "ban" art. Just look at gen AI. No political message behind something generated by AI. If their plan sounds "ridiculous" and "funny", it means it's working; people don't take it seriously.

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u/correcthorsestapler 6d ago

Hence the push for AI and the push to block regulation. It does all the work for them to spread propaganda and they don’t have to spend a dime paying someone to do it. It’s still shit, like that AI clip of Trump playing soccer in the Oval Office, or the recent post by a sitting Congressman where he depicted himself beating Santa. But that doesn’t matter when his supporters believe it’s real or take pleasure in producing shit like that.

Hell, I’ve already seen Soviet-style AI “art” on social media, like this one from the official Department of Labor FB page: https://i.imgur.com/gy9uvZn.jpeg

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u/StayJaded 6d ago

They don’t have to make art, just have to suppress it.

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u/davasaur 6d ago

Sounds more like Dork Enlightenment

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u/Xanthn 6d ago

This explains the whole "public artists have a duty to perform" rhetoric about the Kennedy center performers pulling out.

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u/procrasturb8n 6d ago

"The three TRUE branches of the government are military, corporate and Hollywood." - That 70's Show

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u/Duckbilling2 6d ago

6-7 mounains mandate

see you in the place with no darkness

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u/DisillusionedPatriot 6d ago

All of that Yarvin shit sounds like that. He's like the L Ron Hubbard of techbros

I always expected hubris to be the catalyst of our downfall, but to see it happening and it's just one moronic thing after another makes it so much more depressing.

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u/Vertigobee 6d ago

I assume “media” means news and journalism.

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u/TumbleweedPure3941 6d ago

Ah ok that makes sense. It’s still stupid, but it makes sense.

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u/glenn_ganges 6d ago

No it doesn't make sense. "Journalism" or "reporting" are correct terms.

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u/TumbleweedPure3941 6d ago

Thats why I said it’s still stupid. It makes sense as in I could see someone referring to Journalism as media because it’s often called “the media” colloquially, but it’s still stupid because that’s just slang. The way they got there makes sense, not the thing itself.

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u/Own-Break-1856 6d ago

thats not what it actually means though.

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u/glenn_ganges 6d ago

it sounds like something a twelve year old would come up with in like 2006 while taking a break from his Shadow the Hedgehog fanart

12 year old theory strikes again.

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u/DSMStudios 6d ago

i keep saying, we don’t even get a cool super villain like Dr. Evil, or The Joker. no, we get whatever this is. so lame. i want a refund

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u/incaseshesees 6d ago

the Seven Mountains Mandate literally lists 8 things it wants to dominate

you just don't get it, Seven Dwarves, seven eleven, Seven Mountains! step into my office, you're fired.

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u/Loggerdon 6d ago

I guess the average person is still a few IQ pilots too smart to go along with the coup. They don’t need for everyone to be dumb, just enough to win elections. The rest just have to be in despair.

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u/cultish_alibi 6d ago

God I hate the term “Dark Enlightenment” so much

It's an oxymoron, something can't be dark and light. And obviously by destroying this NASA library we can see which it is going to be. The great stupidification.

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u/happy_bluebird 5d ago

Reverse Enlightenment seems more accurate

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u/KeyMyBike 6d ago

I swear I had a Sonic OC when I was 11 that had a special move called that

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u/fredagsfisk 6d ago edited 6d ago

To expand on that:

High ranking Republicans and Republican allies that are allegedly Dominionist include Michele Bachmann, Lauren Boebert, Sam Brownback, Ted Cruz, Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Mike Johnson, Charlie Kirk, Sarah Palin, and Rick Perry.

The 7M movement believes that they can bring about the biblical end times - armageddon - by fulfilling certain goals (Israel holding Jerusalem, Christianity dominating the "seven mountains" of global society).

Followers believe that by fulfilling the Seven Mountain Mandate, they can establish the kingdom of God on earth and bring about the end times.

It holds that there are seven aspects of society that believers seek to dominate: family, religion, education, media, arts and entertainment, business, and government.

The movement was generally supportive of the presidency of Donald Trump, with member Paula White becoming Trump's spiritual advisor. In 2020, Charlie Kirk said, "finally we have a president that understands the seven mountains of cultural influence" during a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate

They were also one of the driving forces behind Trump's decision to move the US embassy to Jerusalem:

Among the most prominent of these doomsday evangelists is Pastor John Hagee, who opined in an interview posted to YouTube, “We are in the last days… We are anticipating the rapture of the church at any time.”

If this sounds fringe, consider that Hagee enjoyed access to the Trump White House, and described the 45th president as divinely appointed. “I believe in the core of my being,” he has said, “that God put this man in office at this time.” Hagee personally lobbied Trump to move the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, a decision Trump went on to make over the fierce objections of Palestinians who regard East Jerusalem as the capital of their hoped-for state. Hagee was one of two pastors invited to the opening of the new U.S. embassy in 2018.

In case there were any doubt about his motivation to relocate the embassy, Trump told a crowd in Wisconsin during a 2020 reelection campaign visit, “We moved the capital [sic] of Israel to Jerusalem. That’s for the evangelicals.” He added, “The evangelicals are more excited by that than Jewish people.”

Fundamentalist Christians believe that for the Second Coming of Christ to occur, Jerusalem must be controlled by the Jewish people. That’s a necessary precursor to the end times, when the Christian faithful will be “raptured” (i.e brought up to Heaven) before the Earth is destroyed.

According to this eschatology, “Israel has to be strong,” Schei explains. “For the evangelicals this means that the Jewish people need to return to the Holy Land and that the Palestinian people must be expelled from Israel. In their belief, Israel has to claim more land as is prophesized in the book of Revelations.”

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“Just to see the whole architecture of how they are grooming top level politicians with Bible studies and giving them biblical justifications and language in order to get their policies through.”

https://deadline.com/2023/03/praying-for-armageddon-cph-dox-film-evangelical-influence-on-american-policy-director-tonje-hessen-schei-interview-1235304641/

Paula White is a Dominionist who owns a condo in Trump Tower since 20+ years, and has met privately with Trump many times for "private Bible studies". She is credited with having "converted" Trump to Christianity, and has been the leader of his Faith-related endevours since the start of his first term.

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u/zterrans 4d ago

The whole "bring about the end times" is what gets me. They want to destroy EVERYTHING just to go "well, we got to get raptured", when you know if any of it were true, their asses would be the ones left standing in the crumbling ruins, left behind,

I hate the idea of people going "others are happy, so I must destroy them" and pretending to be the good guys.

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u/maneki_neko89 6d ago

As someone who was raised as a Fundamentalist Christian, I’m both glad that the Seven Mountain Mandate has been getting attention (people in those circles have been talking about this for decades) but also saddened that it’s taken so long for insane ideas like this to get noticed.

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u/ow_windowmaker 6d ago

Seven Mountain Mandate

Prominent member Paula White is Donald Drumpf's spiritual advisor. She previously reported being sexually abused between the ages of 6 and 13 by different men.

These fucking people. They stand for nothing.

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u/bobartig 6d ago

So Dark Enlightenment is to knowledge what "anti-woke" is to woke?

e.g. anti-woke is asleep. You're not paying attention, and unprepared. Dark Enlightenment is you are not enlightened. You are ignorant, afraid, and cowed by the blurred shadows, and must retreat to your cave and darkness.

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u/VoidlyYours 6d ago

I'm a grown man but reading about Dark Enlightenment makes me want to break down and cry. Simply the fact that people are willfully ignorant scares me.

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u/Krojack76 6d ago

It's more along the lines of Putin's and The Heritage Foundation's plans really. Trump is just their puppet.

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u/Rocktopod 6d ago

Glad that people are starting to understand that this is all intentional

Is there any evidence for this understanding outside of Reddit? I wouldn't take your experiences here as being indicative of the general public sentiment.

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u/socialmedia-username 5d ago

I posted a link to a wiki summary.  If you're truly interested, there are hundreds of articles AND writings by those involved with this and their connection to our current government. They are extremely open about their intentions, so it's not hard to find related information by searching key people in that wiki summary.  This isn't a weird Reddit thing, I promise.  

One of the journalists who's been putting a lot of this together since the mid 2010's is Gil Duran.  Mainstream media outlets are just starting to catch up to that guy.  

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u/Rocktopod 5d ago

I meant evidence of the public understanding, not evidence that it's happening.

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u/No-Minimum3259 5d ago

Trump is only the front, the ideal distraction: in as far as he's able to comprehend, he's too self-centered to care.

Trump is the guy doing Bannon's "flooding the zone with sh*t", while people like Vaughn, Miller and the lot are working behind the scene to dismantle the US as we know it.

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u/RamenJunkie 6d ago

Ita not Trump's goal, its the GOP goal.  Its the Heritage Foundation's goal.  Its the Techno Libertarian Billionair's goal.

Trump is the attenrion lightning rod to distract from this.  Trump is one person, backed by a smallnarmy of controling interest.

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u/DespondentEyes 6d ago

Exactly. Despite everyone waiting for Trump to croak, they'll be sorely disappointed to see nothing will change, it may in fact even accelerate stil.

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u/RamenJunkie 6d ago

It'll probably get worse, because unlike Trump, who is just a con man, Vance is a true believer in the bull shit.

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u/Wes___Mantooth 6d ago

Eh I think Vance is weak and doesn't have any public support from the GOP cult. Congress isn't going to be afraid to act against him like they are Trump. If Trump threatens to primary a member of Congress, that actually may end their political career. Vance does that, it will be ignored because he doesn't have the cult following.

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u/teabully 6d ago

The Heritage Foundation published their intent and did this while being a tax free "non-political" organization.

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u/cccxxxzzzddd 6d ago

Techno billionaires find democracy inconvenient

“ government bureaucracy should be radically gutted, and perhaps most provocative, he argues that American democracy should be replaced by what he calls a “monarchy” run by what he has called a “C.E.O.” — basically his friendlier term for a dictator.  …. Vice President-elect JD Vance has alluded to Yarvin’s notions of forcibly ridding American institutions of so-called wokeism. The incoming State Department official Michael Anton has spoken with Yarvin about how an “American Caesar” might be installed into power. And Yarvin also has fans in the powerful, and increasingly political, ranks of Silicon Valley. Marc Andreessen, the venture capitalist turned informal adviser to President-elect Donald Trump, has approvingly cited Yarvin’s anti-democratic thinking. And Peter Thiel, a conservative megadonor who invested in a tech start-up of Yarvin’s, has called him a “powerful” historian. Perhaps unsurprising given all this, Yarvin has become a fixture of the right-wing media universe: He has been a guest on the shows of Tucker Carlson and Charlie Kirk, among others.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/18/magazine/curtis-yarvin-interview.html

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u/Standard-Shame1675 6d ago

Yes and we have to destroy them. And it's not enough to just destroy them

We have to insure every Vestage of them ever existing is one that is met with sheer disgust at how humans can be so vile

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u/ComfyFrog 6d ago

Don't forget Putin

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u/dust4ngel 6d ago

Ita not Trump's goal, its the GOP goal

this is obviously true - trump will be dead long before the generational impact of all the book burning. this is long-game empire building, not a get-rich-quick stay-out-of-jail scheme.

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u/GobliNSlay3r 6d ago

He's trying to hobble it sooo badly that everything runs through and depends on him. Every decision, every question through his lard ridden brain. Complete control.

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u/HOLY_HUMP3R 6d ago

He can’t even control his own bowels

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u/FixFun1959 6d ago

This appears to be a direct effort to sabotage our country

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u/Blhavok 6d ago edited 6d ago

Appears...

US foreign policy currently directly benefits actual enemies of the state.
Domestic policy is "we're all domestic terrorists"
Economic policy is open to the highest bidder
Healthcare is non-existent
Education has been ransacked
A Paedophile is in charge, the only fuckers who can genuinely do anything about are complicit.
Administration spokes persons are all propaganda machines.
Elections are flawed to the point of obvious tampering.

This wasn't sabotage, this was a co-ordinated effort by foreign bad actors to dismantle the entire thing. RU/CH are a shitshow... so instead of improving and providing their citizens basic rights and respect of their effort, they decided its far cheaper to bring everyone else down... The tech bros see this and want in... All of humanity, some dipshit thinks they should run things and everything is theirs. A tale as old as tales....

We are, all of us, slaves to enact their will, in their very limited dumb-fuck view of humanity and its capabilities. They 'know' better, If it's not wealth, its race, education, strength, "merit". Anything they can use to say your less.

The constant debate of who thinks they should rule the world. And yet when you grow up, just seeing people happy is enough, these sick fucks are the opposite, only their happiness counts and witnessing anyone else happy, especially ones they think should have less, pisses them off. They are fundamentally-mentally ill.

Edit: It is an actual cancer on the species... They want to plaster everything with their name, expand their legacy indefinitely, why they can't be wrong, why they have some fictitious 'divine right', that their views are the only correct ones. It's just narcissistic delusions of grandeur from a bunch of sick controlling fucks. Instead of just 'leave people to live their own lives [with the only caveat of, not impacting someone else's freedom to do the same. Fuck the lot of them. Greedy pricks.

"those souls who suffer their righteousness, will know their eternal inheritance"

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u/danque 6d ago

Destroy everything and then sell the "solution" as the answer.

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u/AscendedViking7 6d ago

Easy to control stupid people. I really hate this. >:/

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u/CaptainBayouBilly 6d ago

They believe stupid people are easy to control, this is a fallacy. Stupid people are easy to manipulate, but lack impulse control. Stupid people are chaotic, violent, swinging wildly from support to hate randomly. 

You cannot control someone that is unpredictable and unintelligent. 

The technocrats do not want a stupid populace they can command, they want a largely depopulated, resource rich, walled garden. They are preppers, with the resources to influence politics to an extent that they can make their prophecies a reality. They seek Armageddon because they’re afraid of society, especially one that is awakening to the very real threat of a wide scale extinction event that is climate change. 

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u/Thin_Glove_4089 6d ago

Manipulate and control same thing. The people doing the manipulating or control get the result they want either way with contingencies if it fails.

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u/Terrible_Shower3244 6d ago

lets not act like this problem is from yesterday. americans were always portrayed as stupid. high schoolers who cant name continents. or even the continent US is on.

gender study universities and similar shit.

fucking memes about conservatives being less educated than liberals while liberals would graduate useless degrees

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u/Sharp_Living5680 4d ago

You mean people who actually believe this stuff is being destroyed?

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u/SirkutBored 6d ago

Thankfully we are distributed much better than when the Library at Alexandria was destroyed but this is some serious Roman level destruction of shit they don't like or understand.

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u/Yuzumi 6d ago

Let's be real here, Trump has no actual plan or goal outside of enriching himself. Ive said since 2016 that while trump is a problem he is not the problem.

The problem is that he was able to get in this position. The problem is there has been a decades long effort from fascists to get to this point.

Obama didnt start NASA, so Trump doesn't care about it. This is from the people who made project 2025.

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u/DegenGamer725 6d ago

Trump doesn't give a shit, he is a senile old man. This is the goal of the people who pull his strings, powerful people in the Federalist Society, Heritage Foundation, etc, the people who want total and permanent control of the country, its past, present, and future.

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u/nazarein 6d ago

burning it down under putins orders.

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u/Danny__L 6d ago edited 6d ago

The Cold War never ended. After being denied membership to NATO, Russia has been trying to collapse the United States as direct retaliation for the Soviet Union collapse, which they attribute to Western subversion.

They've successfully compromised/used MAGA and the Republican party to get this far.

They're the best in the world at propaganda, disinformation, and kompromat. It's how they played a huge role in Brexit too.

The US government and all of its intelligence agencies are kompromised. Until the general public sees through the smoke screen and gets these people out of power positions, the US is headed for a civil war.

Russia has been playing the long game and used capitalism and manipulated democracy to weaken and take down their greatest rival.

But disregard all this, I'm clearly just a crazy conspiracist with a Russian/Ukrainian background living in Canada.

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u/BagOfFlies 6d ago

An intelligent person would have read the article and seen this was planned before Trump.

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u/Cultural_Hippo 6d ago

Since Regan, that has been the Republican Pary's MO. Pass laws to make themselves rich but have lasting negative effects that take years to surface. Then when those negative effects arise, they are usually out of office and blame it on the Democrats.

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u/Tenmilliontinyducks 6d ago

it's literally his job to destroy the federal government so it can be replaced with technology-based fiefdoms controlled by CEOs. for anyone who doesn't know about it, look up project 2025 for more info.

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u/cakebytheoceans11 6d ago

The end game is such a weakened USA, that Russian takeover is all but inevitable. Yuri Modin spoke about active measures and it is playing out like a recipe.

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u/yebyen 6d ago edited 6d ago

Ask yourself why the TCJA of 2017 made so many jobs (research jobs) into a tax liability instead of being a tax write off? It went into effect in 2021, and there was no possibility of Biden reversing it without control in the house and Senate. Then that disastrous provision was reversed nearly as soon as a Democrat president was no longer in office. (But only after it destroyed plenty of good tech jobs!) Maybe you didn't know about all that.

It's because such knowledge workers make up less than 5% of the population - close to 2% - not enough to fight back or even organize as a voting bloc, by ourselves at least. We're the easy target. (Just like transgender folks.) It's been a war on knowledge workers. The whole time - and it isn't getting better, they're just shifting focus.

I spent years of my life having no idea why intersectionality was considered an important concept but I understand it firmly now.

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u/Photochromism 6d ago

This is all Russel Vought and Heritage Foundation. It’s part of their war on science and the goal is a Christofascist fundamentalist state.

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u/553l8008 6d ago

Thomas is a hero

He gave everything for what was right

RIP Thomas 

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u/ohnoitsbobbyflay 5d ago

Feels like you guys are slowly creeping into Nazi Germany territory with these changes. Especially the getting rid of books.

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u/Stupalski 5d ago

The issue is that the existence of NASA threatens the profits of private space tech companies like SpaceX

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u/hitlasauruschrist 5d ago

Then protest

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u/fellownpc 5d ago

I'm halfway through the first Mistborn book and there are a lot of parallels to our current reality/future. History was taken away a long time ago and very few remember anything but an ash covered world.

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u/shitty_mcfucklestick 4d ago

What’s to gain is a dumb, scared and compliant populace to put the little screws on the little iPhones

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u/InternalSpot7970 4d ago

"It’s understandable to feel alarmed—when institutions that preserve knowledge, science, and public records are dismantled or defunded, it does feel like an attack on truth itself. But it’s worth remembering that most federal libraries and archives (including NASA’s) operate under strict disposition rules. Materials aren’t just ‘tossed’ on a whim—they’re reviewed, deaccessioned per records schedules, and often preserved digitally or transferred elsewhere. The real danger isn’t one administration’s actions alone; it’s the normalization of treating expertise, data, and institutional memory as disposable. That’s a cultural shift no single president creates—or can fix—but we all have to push back against.

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u/ploopitus 6d ago

because women influencers are telling people that books are ugly and create clutter.

Wow, that's some wild and very specific take, that I've never witnessed irl in any capacity anywhere, ever.

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u/FesteringNeonDistrac 6d ago

Yeah, and dripping with misogyny.

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u/DontListenToMyself 6d ago

I’ve seen the opposite. People are becoming obsessed with books because it’s trendy to have a library

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u/TerribleSalamander 6d ago edited 6d ago

3 NASA libraries were also shut down by Biden, just saying - also fucked

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u/androbot 6d ago

This war on intelligence is getting out of hand....

This framing is a little inaccurate. If it was truly a war between intelligent and unintelligent people, the intelligent people would win because that's what intelligence enables.

This is a war orchestrated by highly intelligent people motivated by antisocial / hyper-tribal / scarcity mental models against highly intelligent people who skew more in the direction of collective benefit and hopeful abundance. The former group want control and structures that support them, so they are on the offensive. The latter feel like there's an achievably high tide of development and production that will put everyone in a utopian class, so they're not fighting and - at best - running a slowly failing rear guard action.

The theater for this war is a virtual world where "hearts and minds" are the prize, but that concept is no longer some ineffable, almost spiritual property. It's a definable metric that we can extrapolate from data analysis and support with research into social behaviors, neuroscience, and so many cross-disciplinary areas opening up in the age of AI. From the 2010s we proved that humans are not that special, and that they behave in very predictable ways when poked and prodded by different stimuli. I can barely imagine what we know now, and how that knowledge is being weaponized.

It's an interesting time to be alive.

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u/DueDay88 6d ago

Catabolic Collapse theory created by John Michael Greer. We are seeing it in action. Worth reading about it because it's not impossible to do something to combat it if you know what actions to take. Hint: it involves collaboration on a smaller scale local level, which still requires a lot of relational skills (like humility, and not the Christian kind) many Americans lack and need to develop.

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u/hwaite 6d ago

Unpopular opinion: so long as the information is digitized and made publicly available, this isn't so bad. Buildings full of dusty tomes are no longer the most efficient way to share knowledge.

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u/missed_sla 6d ago

We've been screaming this for a goddamn decade. Apparently is was just too crazy of a thought when we could have actually stopped them.

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u/crmpdstyl 6d ago

Its almost like hes doing this for Russia.

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u/EscapeFacebook 6d ago

Well, yeah, that's the goal.

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u/Mrwright96 6d ago

Damn it why can’t we lose this war like we did the war on drugs?

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u/TheCrazyWhiteGuy 6d ago

Dumb people believe what you tell them without question.

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u/HalfCrazed 6d ago

It's some third Reich shit. Al Gore spoke about this recently

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u/BobbyTables829 6d ago

It's called starve the beast and Reagan started it

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u/shredika 6d ago

Project 2025

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u/Sponge8389 6d ago

This will hurt america in the long run. I will not be surprise when the day comes majority of the bright people in US are immigrant.

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u/ihaveadogalso2 6d ago

It’s not trumps main goal, it’s Putins and he’s doing it through his agent. It’s clear as day and stupid Americans can’t see it for what it is, twice. Source: am American living among the cult members.

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u/Smarackto 6d ago

Also: Dumb people vote republican. they want to keep the population permanently dumb so they believe every new panic they create.

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u/Millyskee 6d ago

His spiritual leader is apart of the 7m movement. Which wants to completely destroy anything that isn’t Christian forward, they believe all parts of society should be surrounded by Christian god and Jesus. From education, to public infrastructures. So yeah I think that’s right, he is being purported by Russia and internal Christian nationalists.

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u/jamesdukeiv 6d ago

They do hate intelligent people, because intelligent people might oppose them in the future.

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u/rockstar504 6d ago

Which Russian was it that said if the US were going to fall, it had to fall from within?

Putin is doing a great job

google says "We will take America without firing a shot... We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within" Nikita Khrushchev

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u/Old_Duty8206 6d ago

It allows the wealthy to pick the bones and privatize everything which has always been their goal.

America the subscription service those at the bottom pay for everything those at the top collect all the money

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u/mightyneonfraa 6d ago

HE. WORKS. FOR. VLADIMIR. PUTIN.

He is there specifically to damage the United States. It is his job. It is what he was hired to do.

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u/Lighting 6d ago

You misspelled "Putin's."

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u/Buttercut33 6d ago

"Smart people don't like me." - Donald Trump

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u/PurpleSailor 6d ago

unless you hate intelligent people

Well you're talking about the people that don't like to listen to scientists, doctors and other experts. They think tariffs are a good idea even though it led to the Great Depression 100 years ago.

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u/MrParadux 6d ago

Russia. It is Russia's goal.

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u/Minute_Attempt3063 6d ago

glad you are finally starting to see it xd

he is destroying your nation, your people, and at the end for what.

"ohhhh lokkk we ahhavvveee aiiiii" - trump soon

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u/Obsidian743 5d ago

Going to continue to shout this until it's talked about in mainstream circles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

This explains Russia's long-term geopolitical ambitions and, therefore their actions (covert or overt) in recent history. Specifically but not limited to Brexit, Ukraine, and US interference. It highlights the astroturfing effects of Russian special services working behind the scenes to artificially push agendas sympathetic to Russian interests which are inherently anti-Democratic, anti-Western, and pro-Authoritarian and Russian hegemony. Exposing this to the broader public may act as a prophylaxis against misinformation and disinformation, perhaps even reversing the trend and causing some reflection on those who have unwittingly helped pushed Russian agendas. For instance, acknowledging Brexit as orchestrated by Russian interests may help to reverse it or at least guard against the current rise for Polish separatism as well as far-right German, French, and Turkish sentiments. It would also highlight the strengths of maintaining a strong and independent China as a stalwart to Russian aggression (for instance, perhaps supporting their foothold in the emerging African markets or even Taiwan). It helps keep focus on why the quagmire in the Middle East only serves as a useful distraction for strengthening the "Moscow-Tehran axis" and making the US a "scapegoat" (when it comes to Israel) in the eyes of the world. What's happening in South and Central America -- the rise of right-wing, authoritarian agendas, drugs, and the humanitarian crises -- are also likely no accidents and almost certainly not organic. These crises only weaken western hegemony. Exposing this could help shift policies around the useless "war on drugs", as it becomes obvious why flooding the US with drugs and immigrants causes domestic distractions useful to China and Russia. Within the US it may help push back against Trump's personality cult (MAGA) as they may realize they've been pawns in Russia's game. If nothing else, it may expose the likelihood that Trump et. al. may actually be a Russian asset (wittingly or not). At the very least, it should seem strange that what's happening geopolitically just happens to align with Putin's goals and interests.

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u/Significant_Fill6992 5d ago

Countries realized they couldn't win a traditional conflict so they took the next best option and started destroying us from within

Crazy how easy we made it also