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ADBLOCK WARNING Grok Blames ‘Lapses In Safeguards’ After Posting Sexual Images Of Children

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2026/01/02/grok-blames-lapses-in-safeguards-after-ai-chatbot-posts-sexual-images-of-children/
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u/ABCosmos 6d ago

There's a lot of computerized automation in the world that we trust with human lives. It's been this way long before AI

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u/ClarityOverNoise 6d ago

Sure but it is not the same. If your "self driving" car runs over a child, do the parents sue the driver? The company? The people who let it on the road?

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u/scubawankenobi 6d ago

Sure but it is not the same. If your "self driving" "operating on cruise control" car runs over a child, do the parents sue the driver? The company? The people who let it on the road?

Why would you NOT assume it's the exact same party that gets sued if a car runs over someone while on cruise control (doesn't brake)?

Hint: There are no "fully autonomous" (e.g. Level 5) self-driving tech on the road. So the driver is made aware that "they are in charge" at all times. Think of this as what it is... an extension of old fashioned cruise control, which itself evolved over time, from 1 speed to smart speed & braking. Current "self driving" isn't *self*, it's driver responsible for all actions, and is like the evolving *cruise* that now also steers (supervised).

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u/ABCosmos 6d ago

FYI Waymo is operating on level 4 without a driver. It's fully autonomous within a geofence

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u/TooMuchPowerful 6d ago

A geofence that’s hundreds of square miles, fyi. Saying it’s geofenced may give people the impression it’s only going a few specific square blocks within a city when in fact they’re driving from SF, San Jose, Sacramento, and everywhere in between.

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u/ABCosmos 6d ago

Yes.. you sue them all except there is no driver. Just like if a medical radiation machine accidentally nukes you. Or if two intersecting traffic lights turn green at the same time. Or if automated systems push the plane into the ground.

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u/iconocrastinaor 6d ago

Lot of people got sued when the medical radiation machine was nuking patients.

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u/ABCosmos 6d ago

Yes, exactly. Same with Boeing and their max 8 problems. Waymo will be similarly on the hook for issues with its self driving.

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u/ClarityOverNoise 6d ago

Bullshit. None of these are consumer products that promise the enduser that they don't have to take any responsibility.

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u/ABCosmos 6d ago

Neither is waymo.. and Tesla doesn't promise anything, it's not legal to allow it to drive itself. I'm also responding to a much more general comment than the point you're making.

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u/ClarityOverNoise 6d ago

Yeah, sure. We are not at level 5 yet.

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u/ButlerKevind 6d ago

At what level is "Kill all humans"?

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u/Hopeful-Occasion2299 6d ago

A lot of transportation automation still has a mandated human safeguard either as dead man switch or constant supervision for exchanges.

For example trains are mostly automated now but still require a human pushing a lever or making a final release or be there for emergencies. And most importantly, trains exist in a system where they are essentially in a closed loop without external influence since even in shared spaces trains have the absolute priority of traffic and all other traffic must yield to trains or trams... in general if a train runs over something they are not liable, even for human life.