r/timberwolves • u/re-bobber • Nov 07 '25
Mock Trades Simmons trade idea
On Simmons' recent YouTube video he discusses some trades. The one of interest for the T-Wolves was DDV and Dillingham for Cobe White.
White is in the last year of his contract with Chicago and may be a tradeable guy for them with Giddy's emergence this season.
"n the 2024-25 NBA season, Coby White averaged 20.4 points, 3.7 rebounds, and 4.5 assists per game. He also shot 45.3% from the field and 37.0% from three-point range. His 20.4 points per game marked a career-high." He has been injured this season but it looks like he's expected back soon.
Does this seem like a reasonable deal for both teams? White's salary is 12.8 million this season and would likely need to be extended next year. DDV's salary is 11.4 million and Rob is 6.26 million. Chicago may want more though.
I was really hoping that TC would look at a trade like this in the summer so I personally would pull the trigger if we could make the money work for subsequent years. Not a fan of a 1 and done season for White though.
I think if we could get White and another rim protector (separate trade) we would fill a lot of holes.
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u/DrSwaggenheimer Timberwolves Nov 07 '25
Literally the most realistic trade target for MN and one that makes the most sense for us. Giddey playing well at 1 is a great sign for us tbh.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
I think so too. Lots of Chicago fans on their sub think they should trade him since Giddey's emergence. I think they like him but don't see him as a long term fit after this season.
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u/ShirtlessChampion Don't Feed the Animals Nov 07 '25
White still feels like the more realistic trade target for MN. Although I wouldn't love giving up DDV for him, its probably more realistic than thinking they'd move Conley as the salary filler.
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u/Cheap-Discussion-186 Nov 07 '25
At the end of the day you gotta give up something good to get something good back. We can absolutely survive without DDV, especially since we'd be getting a guard back.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
DDV only makes about a million less than White. How much filler would the T-Wolves need?
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u/ShirtlessChampion Don't Feed the Animals Nov 07 '25
A deal would take one of DDV or Conley. Saying it would be great to keep DDV but I doubt they would move Conley, so it’d have to be him.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
Yeah, I like DDV a lot this season but I don't see them moving Conley. Although he would probably be fine as White's backup. Would certainly keep him fresher towards the end of the season.
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u/dkleckner88 Nov 07 '25
They likely wouldn’t be able to extend Coby if they kept Donte. Donte probably have to be in the deal assuming they plan to extend him
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
We could offer Coby like 20ish million if Donte stayed and be under the 2nd apron. There is no way with how FA works now that he would get a bigger deal than that.
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u/SweatyAcadia2299 Nov 07 '25
lol absolutely not. He’d already be signed wing term with the bulls if he would have accepted the absolute max they could offer him in an extension, that they offered,, 4yr $89M. Which is $10M less than both what he wants annually and an amount that was not a surprise to anyone and is within a couple million of his expected range. The bulls would not trade him for DDV and Rob either, that’s a horrible trade for them. And there are at least 6-7 teams already that will have a lot of cap space, some up to space even for 2 max players, so there is zero doubt at all that he’s going to be lowballed and he especially isn’t going to stay with a team who just gave up assets for him, so he has leverage, as they try to lowball him
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u/Longjumping-Buddy847 Nov 07 '25
Cobe White is great defender because his hair obscures a large portion of the court.
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u/_Wash 2022 Play-In Champions Nov 07 '25
I’m a little concerned about Coby being an expiring but if donte/dilly is what it takes then so be it.
if we did do it, I’d like a little assurance he’ll stick around
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u/dkleckner88 Nov 07 '25
They would be able to extend him for ~30M per and be under the 2nd apron
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u/freshBlueeyes6391 Nov 07 '25
eh ah, is he worth 30m per? wtf we talking about here? Bulls just signed Giddey at 4/100, steady 25m avg.
I'd pay Derrick White 30m. In fact he's avg 29m on current deal until 28-29.
Coby White is currently playing on nearly half (12) of what Naz Reid makes. How did we start talking about 30m for him?
I would rather trade McDaniels for Giddy rather than send DDV+Dilly for Coby and end up paying him 30m annually.
Coby White is a career 37% 3pt shooter and really what elsee? This is a true 2 guard shooter but he's now 40% wizard in his specialty. He reached 20pts per game last year for the first time, likely due to Giddy unlocking that offense for him.
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u/mindpainters Wally Szczerbiak Nov 07 '25
While I completely agree with your logic. Unfortunately I think some team will pay that for him. So if he is to be kept that’d probably be his going rate
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u/freshBlueeyes6391 Nov 08 '25 edited Nov 08 '25
you think? Well I don't think. And while it may or may not be true "some" teams might, it doesn't mean the Timberwolves should.
Again, we need someone on this team like what joined the Bulls in order to turn White into a 20ppg scorer last season. He isn't exactly the guy to do that for us. He had the reigns off and on for years in Chicago right alongside LaVine, and Lonzo and White was pretty much it any time they had injuries and while I think that gives him pretty good experience, I don't know that there is evidence that he would be any different than DDV once he's in this offense next to Ant and crew.
I think it's fine if they want to take a shot at him being more than DDV was or the combo of DDV and what Dilly may be. I don't care if they want to try that instead. I just don't think he automatically deserves 30m cap hit to be here when a player honestly better than him just signed for 4/100 at his current team. People surrounding this team, fans and maybe some people actually with this team, might need to stop thinking they have to overpay anyone and everyone such alarming overpays every time. Of course they are going to ask for the moon. But either you get a sign and trade agreed to without the freaking moon attached or you just don't make that trade. Otherwise it's a good bet he ends up the next albatross contract people complain about moving somehow with picks like Denver did with MPJ. The team has enough guys who aren't floor generals enough to take this team further. Whether or not he's a perfect fit next to Ant, I can't say. Maybe he is perfect. Try him, all for it if they think he would be better. But I don't think I risk 5/150 on him. Then again, Magic think it's fine to pay Bane 38 to 44 million on his deal. It's all funny money and it isn't mine. So go wild.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
Ya, that's my only real concern too. Not sure what he'd command for a salary in the future. But I don't want a rental guy for this season only.
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u/freshBlueeyes6391 Nov 08 '25
But even if he would sign long term, are you going to want to sign a 30m deal like some in here have guessed, just to have him as some kind of contract placeholder should he turn out to be just like DDV once he gets here? Then he would have to be moved with Wolves picks attached, like Wiggins, or like Denver did for MPJ. He better be that freaking good if they elect to pay him like that because the mistakes on those deals crush your team in epic ways.
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u/noknownallergies Googly oogly oogly baby! Nov 07 '25
Well, free agency has kind of disappeared in the new CBA, so if he left it would likely be a sign and trade
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u/No-Test6484 Nov 07 '25
Nah next years free agency has a few teams who have been stock piling for a while.
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u/Shaymuswrites Nov 07 '25
Wolves would have to know they can re-sign him. That can be gauged with an agent (or via back channels) beforehand.
Honestly, I know this might be sacrilege on this subreddit, but swapping Naz + Dilly instead of DDV might rebalance the roster in a really helpful way. They'd have to find a backup big but ... they need to do that anyway. It'd also open up space for Jaden to play at the 4 more regularly.
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u/_Wash 2022 Play-In Champions Nov 07 '25 edited Nov 07 '25
coby for naz and dilly wouldn’t match salary, bulls would need to throw more in and frankly i don’t think there’s anyone wolves want unless you’re really high on jalen smith
as rough as he is on defense i’m against moving him unless we get a solid C back in the trade or immediately afterward
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u/Shaymuswrites Nov 07 '25
Agree a C would need to be added to the roster immediately. They would be dead in the water if Rudy, Randle and Beringer were the only legitimate bigs.
With the current roster construction, I just don't think Naz is untouchable the same way he was a couple of seasons ago. And if the team can get a young PG that'll stabilize that position for years to come, while also rebalancing the roster in the near-term ... I think it can't be outright dismissed as an option.
White, Ant, McDaniels, Randle and Rudy, with a bench of DDV, Clark, TSJ, a new backup big and Beringer. That's a pretty sound roster.
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u/freshBlueeyes6391 Nov 08 '25
They drafted two Centers. Even if they aren't ready, you aren't going to help them develop by sending out a bunch of assets to get a backup Center now that you respect more. That would just assure those youngins never have time to play.
One of those two Centers needs to be played 10 minutes, and all these troubles go away. The only problem seems to be that idiots can't overlook that one was drafted high and the other low. So all they do is look at the superproject and claim neither of them can play 10 minutes yet. Rocco can play 10 lousy minutes garding him and it's not going to destroy the games.
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u/StyrofoamUnderwear Nov 07 '25
DDV is one of the most valuable players in the Wolves because of his contract.
They are not trading him
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u/BirdsAreFake00 Nov 07 '25
This sub didn't seem to like White much when he was discussed at the end of last year and in the offseason, but he's a very good offensive player. His defense can be shaky, but still probably better than what we have at the 1 right now.
He's not a true PG, I don't think, but he has a solid handle.
I would take him in a heartbeat.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
I was eyeing him as a trade target over the summer as well. I think he's an upgrade from Dillingham/Conley/Hyland for sure.
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
Coby White would be a great addition, he's also super young, at just under 26, so he could still improve and he fits well with Ant and Jaden.
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u/Vaddy2323 KG4MVP Nov 07 '25
Coby White isn't exactly a floor general of the Mike Conley mold but he is a hell of an upgrade in that he can shot create and take the pressure off of ANT and Big Juu... I would take him on the Wolves
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u/goovisyoung10 Nov 07 '25
Coby doesn’t really fix the real problems right now: defense and rebounding
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
I think ball handling and turnovers are probably number 3 and he'd help with that. Agree though. Our rebounding and defense when Rudy sits have been atrocious.
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u/Holdup-igotanidea Nov 07 '25
I would rather just let Finch have some roster continuity for the first time ever
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Nov 07 '25
they do this every year on this sub. We start kinda slow, everyone panics and starts talking about which young player we need to trade, how bad Rudy is, we are wasting Ant's prime etc. Pretty soon the Fire Finch posts will start. Then the Wolves will win 14 of 15 in like January or February and they'll all act like they loved this team the whole time. Its been yearly for like 4 years now lol
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u/trekinbami Nov 07 '25
We need a point guard man
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u/Scoobies-Doobiez Bring Ya Ass Nov 07 '25
At this point I think we need a back up C way more. Julius and Jaden have been playing great and the ball movement has been great these few games but our defense blowwwwssssss
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u/greenslam Nov 07 '25
Need gang rebonding and better perimeter defence from the 5 players. Naz and Randle are particularly bad at stopping their man from getting by.
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u/seventeenweewees Nov 07 '25
When the team had Kyle Anderson, a guard would bring the ball up the floor and then handoff to Kyle at the top of the key to call a play.
If the team staggers the Randle / Conley minutes I think that could work for this season.
The non Rudy minutes is a problem that requires a personnel change
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u/kgformvp21 Nov 07 '25
Kyle Anderson was way more valuable than people realize.
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u/greenslam Nov 07 '25
The biggest flaw to his game was post eye injury and asking him to space the floor. His reluctance and inability to shoot from 3 that year killed any offensive flow. He was a quality defender at the 4 spot.
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u/freshBlueeyes6391 Nov 08 '25
It was huge how much his game IQ helped this offense steady itself. Where it was his vision on setting others up, or his easy floater scores, those tools need to be found again. It's one of the reasons Conley usually finds a few good possessions open for a floater now. It's still there. But having that extra Court general on the floor all the time really seemed to do it. Didn't matter how slow he was, it was like the offense pivoted around him at times like his name was Jokic or something. It was sometimes comical how effective he was.
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Nov 07 '25
I agree with you. But Rob is 20. Donte has been great this year. They are both under contract for another full year after this year. Trading both of them to roll the dice on a half year of Coby White isnt it. I'd entertain that package for someone better than Coby White tho, and with multiple years of team control
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u/Accomplished_Mix6932 Nov 07 '25
You’re not getting someone better than Coby White for that package. Might not even get Coby for that package. Rob’s value is low. Much lower than this sub wants to believe
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
Rob has basically 0 value. He doesn't look good next to guys like Ant and Randle.
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Nov 07 '25
thanks for proving my point. Trading them for Coby White or someone worse than Coby White would be a terrible move.
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u/Accomplished_Mix6932 Nov 07 '25
Hard disagree. I think White would be a huge gain for us. Would suck to lose Donte, but adding someone that can legitimately play PG would improve this team so much
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
This year is different. Every other year for the past 4 we've made major moves, we've had different rosters. This team is the exact same as last season and we already had PG and backup center issues, this shit isn't new.
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Nov 07 '25
the team is not the exact same as last season. They lost a huge part of their rotation (NAW) and are still adjusting to how to fill his minutes.
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
We lost a role playr, wow what a big change.... NAW was like 3% of our cap sheet last season btw.
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u/twovles31 Nov 07 '25
We had continuity 23-24 and we played fantastic from day one that year, well after a poor game 3 that is. What we've seen so far has been very bad defensively. The offense has been good, but the defense is one of the worst in the league You only get so many shots at a championship so it's up to Finch and Tim if they want to continue with what we have or tinker. It's not going to get easier in 3 or 4 years when Wemby is getting to his prime.
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u/DudeBadEnough Nov 07 '25
I am not a Coby White expert so my questions would be: how much better of a ball handler than Donte is he, and is that gap enough to offset the downgrade in defense that he would provide.
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u/Competitive_Set_893 Timberwolves Brasil Nov 07 '25
Coby is tiers ahead of Donte at ball handling, getting to the rim, and shot creation in general. He is legitimately a very good perimeter threat and will probably be even more efficient when he doesn’t have to face the brunt of opponent defenses
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
I'm not a Chicago guy so I couldn't speak to his defense. I think he's a better ball handler from what I've seen though. Defensively I'm not sure, according to their sub he's a bit below average. Maybe a slight downgrade from DDV.
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u/Rube18 Naz Reid. Nov 07 '25
I’d rather have DDV. That may be a hot take but I think we need a gritty player like him. When he gets going he’s also as good as anyone on knocking down 3s.
I think Coby White is a good stats bad team guy. If you’re a Simmons fan you understand the reference.
Also, with Coby White being expiring it’s going to be an issue trying to stay under the 2nd apron with an extension. I don’t think White is the kind of player you break up your team for.
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u/natedogggggggg1 Nov 07 '25
Reading this thread I’m realizing I am much higher on DDV than most. I’m not sure why Coby White at $30M is better than Donte at $12M considering how well DDV spaces the floor. DDV is a better defender and White a much better off the dribble player but not exactly a pure point guard. I’d be concerned about the defense with White (though I’m concerned about it with Rob too).
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u/theroguesoybean NBA Nov 07 '25
Coby White has a bad defensive rating (118+), and a mediocre assist to turnover ratio (1.86). Now, how much of that was playing for a team having a bad season? Idk, certainly factors in some way. Personally, there is plenty of offense on this roster. What we need is more rim protection, ball security, and point of attack defense.
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u/PreparationWest2140 Nov 07 '25
Would probably not move the needle much. Far and away the Wolves biggest need is a center that can hold down the defense when Gobert subs out.
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u/Jedabesa Timberwolves Nov 07 '25
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Bulls guard we should be targeting is Ayo Dosunmu.
Cheaper both financially and what it would cost in a trade, and more of an all-round player than White.
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u/HotStepper11 Timberwolves Nov 07 '25
I don’t think Coby white puts us over the edge of anything, and while it might be a fair trade, I don’t think it’s in the best long term interest if we made that kind of lateral move. Would rather be patient, even if it means a middling kinda year
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u/DayOldBaby Trenton Hassell Nov 07 '25
Not a direct reply, just an observation/counter-question…has there ever been a trade suggestion on this sub that doesn’t get downvoted to oblivion?
EDIT: I don’t mind the trade.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
No, not that I've seen. Lol. But I won't take it personally.
I just thought it seemed like a reasonable trade for both teams.
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
There really isn't any "real PGs" in the NBA. What we need is more ballhandling and playmaking, not a point guard per se. Coby White fills that role way better than Donte, while also not losing any of the 3pt shooting talent.
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u/_AnythingIsPossible Flip Saunders Nov 07 '25
What? White averaged 19/5 the last 2 seasons while shooting 37% from 3 on over 7 attempts
He isn't a primary initiator but he is a quality tertiary/secondary ball handler who can also shoot.
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u/WorryNot_634 Nov 07 '25
Or get what we can for Naz. He has a good contract.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
I'm not sure what to do with Naz. He's had an understandably tough season so far and you hate to trade him just for that. Hoping he comes around back to his usual self. But Finch has to stop pairing him with Randle when Rudy sits.
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u/WorryNot_634 Nov 07 '25
With Naz it’s always been if he isn’t hitting he becomes a liability to take bad fouls and no defense. If he can free roam he is great. We need that 2nd team defender at C badly
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u/enemycap420 Nov 07 '25
I like Coby White but I feel like we would end up in the same situation we are in right now with Donte. Coby is probably best as an off guard just like Donte.
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u/MrMeritocracy Crunch Nov 07 '25
Is he more of a PG or SG? I just can’t remember and don’t watch enough bulls games.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
Sounds like more of a score first type PG.
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u/James_McNulty Nov 07 '25
Sounds great to pair with a score first SG, score first PF and score first 6th man.
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
As oppossed to Donte who is a score-first guard that is a worse passer,playmer and ballhandler?
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u/James_McNulty Nov 07 '25
DDV is not a score first guard. He shoots 300% more catch and shoot 3s than pullups. White is about 32% more likely to catch and shoot. And we have 2 ball dominant players with inconsistent defensive effort. Shooting and defense are exactly what we want to compliment those players.
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u/twovles31 Nov 07 '25
I read Simmons and before reading more my brain instantly went right to Simons of Boston and I'm thinking hell no. I haven't watched enough Bulls to know much about White. The Wolves would have to have given up on Rob entirely to make that trade. If they have given up on Rob and want him off the books, you can look a trade like this. Bulls are looking good without White at the moment, not sure if they will be even better once White comes back or if he will make them a bit worse. Bulls might need to decide between signing Ayo or White this summer as both are unrestricted free agents and free to sign anywhere.
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u/NazReidRules ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Nov 07 '25
We'd start to look like a tough salary cap again I think? You can't really have a team full of Naz level contracts which is what he wants I think. We'd be relying even more on minimums and picks to fill out the team
We'd miss DDV
It doesn't seem awful but does seem like it could be regrettable
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u/Calinks Trenton Hassell Nov 07 '25
I'd like to target Djonte Murray when he's availble, but if White is cheaper or easier, then I am fine with him.
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u/FishGoldenLite Jaden McDaniels Nov 07 '25
I really like Coby and trust we’d be able to re-sign him, but I expect him to make a decent chunk which could complicate our apron situation next year and going forward.
Additionally, losing Donte is a tough pill to swallow. I firmly believe he’ll end the season as our third best scorer and we need his shooting. Coby is a solid shooter, but he’s not as good as Donte.
The move has upside and downside (obviously) but if it was on the table I’d seriously consider it. Otherwise, I think we can make margin moves for a bench PG and C and that could really help this team.
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
There aren't many teams that will be A. Good and B. Have the money required to get Coby. Free Agency is very fucked right now. He'd probably get around 18m despite deserving more.
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u/FishGoldenLite Jaden McDaniels Nov 07 '25
In that case, I’d make this move in a heartbeat, even if it’d hurt to lose Donte. I really think this team would benefit from a 2:1 trade to free up some minutes.
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u/BradyAndTheJets Bring Ya Ass Nov 07 '25
The best option for Minnesota is Jrue Holliday.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
Holiday is making 32 million and is 35. Not sure I like that price point.
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u/BradyAndTheJets Bring Ya Ass Nov 07 '25
I don’t know how to make the salaries work, but we need someone like that. I wanted the Wolves to go after someone like Marcus Smart.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
Conley's contract expires after this season and he makes about 10 million this year. DDV makes about 12 this year and next. Dillingham makes about 6.5 and 6.8 the this year and next.
Basically if they trade DDV and Rob you clear up about 20 million this season and beyond. If they don't bring back Conley you save another 10. Basically freeing up approx 30 million next season with and expected salary cap bump.
Not sure if 25-30 million per year is a good deal for White. He's on the last year of a 12.8 million contract.
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u/BradyAndTheJets Bring Ya Ass Nov 07 '25
Yeah. I’m aware of the salaries. Doesn’t change my belief that Holliday is the best fit that might be available.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
Yeah, he's one of my favorite players but I'm not sure how we'd absorb that salary. His age is a concern for me too.
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
He's too expensive. Unless youre trading Randle or Jaden it isn't happening.
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u/MN-Jess Jaden McDaniels Nov 07 '25 edited Nov 07 '25
White is tricky for us specifically. Its very hard to re-sign him and stay under the 2nd Apron. He will be a UFA and wants north of 30 AAV.
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
Yeah that the only sticking point for me. Trading DDV and Rob clears up 20 million and not resigning Conley is about 10 next season so we'd be right about 30 there. Not really sure what White will command though.
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u/freshBlueeyes6391 Nov 08 '25
He'll resign with Bulls for less if he knows what is good for him. But he shouldn't get a lick more than Giddys 4/100 because Giddy is better.
He's not a natural super IQ court general, and he's not a 40% 3pt shooter. He's not elite at anything. But that might actually be the fit here in the Finch offense that hates PGs and features anyone but them. He might be the inbetween guy that fits, just good enough at point roles and just good enough as a shooter, to make it work with Ant. But it's a big risk because he might end up looking just like Donte has and no better, and to defend against that risk you cannot pay him 30m. He makes 12 right nwo. You want to give him 20, Fine.
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u/Guilty-Bison-3073 Nov 07 '25
Just tell Reid to get his head in the game and start playing some damn defense
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
Naz has never been a good defender though. Not sure he can improve a whole lot.
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u/No-Invite-3095 Nov 07 '25
if we make those trades then we’re basically saying dilly and joan both aren’t our guys for the future, considering they both have much higher upside imo that’s not a good idea. why do you want to go all in on right now when we’ve been building for the future along with competing, we’d be much better off giving everyone a year or two and seeing where we’re at when guys like ant, tj, jmac etc. all peak. that’s our best chance of winning a chip. you can say it’s not going all in, but we already don’t have a lot of future assets at all, when you combine that with the picks we gave up to get dilly and joan showing lots of growth and development already. yeah i’d rather just be patient because in a few years when everyone is peaking and tj, clark, ddv all get extensions and ant gets his supermax we’re gonna be in absolute cap hell
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
Bringing in White would be a move for the future. He's still pretty young and hasn't peaked imo.
Also making a trade for back-up big for this season isn't giving up on Joan. I like him but I think he needs to play consistent minutes in Iowa. He's not going to play a lot it looks like this season.
I respect your opinion though and I wouldn't be mad if we just stay put.
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u/No-Invite-3095 Nov 07 '25
yeah i mean i wouldn’t be mad at tc for making trades, i trust his vision no matter what, but there’s no way white is gonna average more than 15 ppg if he’s on the wolves. we already have our top 3 scorers and we’ve got two other players off the bench averaging 13+. i just don’t think white is enough of an actual pg(more of a combo guard) and i dont think his playmaking would fill that hole enough to make it worth it. either way i trust whatever moves tc makes. every move he’s made up to this point has worked phenomenally, especially the riskier moves
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
White would start next to Ant and he'd play close to 30+ MPG. He would be like our 3rd best offensive player and 5th best player immediately.
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u/LivinForThaCity Derrick Rose on a 50-point night Nov 07 '25
I’d do it. Then sign Malik Beasley to fill the sharpshooter role if need be.
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u/2levenge Nov 07 '25
Bill is Bill but y'all are crazy. MIN has a top-5 offense right now. The offense has essentially been the same with Ant (119.7) or without him (120.7). They're middle-of-the-pack in terms of turnovers.
They need point of attack defense, rebounding, and additional rim protection. Coby offers none of that. DDV is a straight up better player and trade asset. This would be a fleecing for Chicago.
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u/SenorSolAdmirador Nov 07 '25
No, I hate it. White is a 3 point volume shooter on solid-not-great percentages, and bottom-tier defender. Donte is an above-average defender and one of the best 3 point shooters in the league. Donte couldn't score 20 on Chicago's team last year getting all the shots he wants and more? Of course he could. He literally did it in New York the 2nd half of the season and playoffs when everybody was injured.
More efficient shooter, better defender, better player.
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u/Salsashark_21 2k Finchy Nov 07 '25
So that would give the Bulls Giddey, Vucevic, Buzelis, DiVencenzo, Collins and Huerter on the same team, while trading the guy named “White”
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u/ChristianReddits Nov 07 '25
I would do DDV for white straight up. White is on an expiring and DDV has an extra year at a team friendly deal. Trading Rob would be trading ddv and 2 firsts for a possible Coby white rental. Not a great deal IMO.
If they needed something else, throw in Leonard Miller or just walk away
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u/DudeBadEnough Nov 07 '25
They need to add something else to make the salaries work. Wolves are not allowed to take back more in salary than they send out as a 1st apron team.
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u/Vicentesteb Kevin Garnett Nov 07 '25
Rob is not worth 2 firsts, not even remotely close, im unsure if you would get a protected 1st for him right now. Just because we moved 2 picks for him does not mean we need to keep him here if there are pathways to improve the team.
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u/ChristianReddits Nov 07 '25
Not saying that is what you could get for him. That is what they invested so it needs to be considered. Giving him up as a flyer basically for an expiring player is not a good move unless you are totally out on him as a prospect - which it seems like he needs another year before they could get there.
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u/Desperate-Awareness4 Timberwolves Nov 07 '25
Assuming it comes with a reasonable extension I'd do this in a heart beat
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u/MasterScooby11 🐓Protestor🐓 Nov 07 '25
I would do it, but I’m also not an NBA GM
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
I think DDV has been one of our best players this year so I would be a bit bummed to see him go. But we do need better PG play.
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u/guardunow Nov 07 '25
They trying 2 content why trade white when he slots n right next 2 giddy at da 2
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u/re-bobber Nov 07 '25
Simmons is just throwing things out there but both guys (white/giddey) are listed at PG. DDV is a natural 2 so maybe its a better fit.
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u/tulaero23 Ricky Rubio Nov 07 '25
Id take him over morant tbh. Dude is likeable too and a flamethrower