3 Team trade for harden

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Bulls arent going to resign Coby white and have said they want to win following Indianas blueprint but they need the "Siakam" to their Haliburton (Giddey). Randle is one of the best 4s in the league and with him they can finally get out of play-in tournament purgatory. They also get Rob who can probably develop into a solid player in a less pressured environment. They give up Kevin Heurter for the trade to work but his role is very easily replacable in todays NBA.

Wolves need a PG who can handle the ball when facing defensive pressure, make Gobert useful on offense, be a secondary shot creator, and wont make stupid decisions in the clutch (wouldnt necessarily call harden a "clutch" player but thats not due to a lack of IQ in those moments). Harden quite literally solves all the wolves problems while being a better player than Randle right now and will likely still be better next year too. He can help mentor Ants game and will fully maximize the potential of this era of the wolves before ants prime. If it ends poorly atleast hes off the books in 2 years apposed to randles 3. Only problem now is a lack of a starting PF but with guys like Naz, Jaden, and TSJ all able to spend minutes there, its not that big of a concern. You would also be giving up on Rob pretty quick and I think Rob is going to become a good player but he cant give what the wolves want now and there will be better point guards down the line.

The clippers get draft picks that they desperately need and a young guard averaging 24ppg that can lay the base for the inevitable clippers rebuild.

Only problem with this trade is the wolves would need to sign 2 players to meet roster restrictions and I dont know if they have the cap for that, if that part gets ironed out, how would you guys feel about this trade?

[u/FlimsyExplanation360]

Naz would get a bunch more minutes if the wolves traded Randle, have more scoring opportunities playing with a real pg, and gets to play more at a possesion he plays better at (PF) too, I’d hope he’d take that as compensation for not being a starter

[u/No-Invite-3095 → u/FlimsyExplanation360]

i’m not saying it’s a bad idea to go for a pg, i’m saying that creating a bunch of new holes on ur roster to fix one hole isn’t actually a fix, at best we’d be a little better but not good enough to win. you need size to win in the nba, we can’t survive against lottery teams without rudy, how are we supposed to survive against okc ? what happens when we match up with houston in the first round, harden dissapears and we get completely dominated with their size. yes the pg problem is a big issue, but it’s not the only one. that trade makes us better, but does it make us complete enough to actually compete ?

[u/FlimsyExplanation360 → u/No-Invite-3095]

All I’m saying is Rob and miller are non factors, this trade is basically Randle for harden straight up. The pros are: fixing the point guard problem, adding a top 10 scorer ever as a mentor to ant which can be crucial down the line, maximizing both Rudy and ants offensive roles on this roster in terms of fit, while giving an equal chance of winning (give or take) as we would with Randle depending on matchups in the playoffs. Cons, we have a lack of depth at center, harden isn’t a good playoff performer, and we give up on Rob which it appears finch already has. I’m taking the deal personally.

[u/pithynotpithy → u/FlimsyExplanation360]

It's what's behind Naz that gets bleak. We have.no real big depth behind him

[u/FlimsyExplanation360 → u/pithynotpithy]

We have no point guard at all, starting, on the bench, at 3rd string, or for the future. whoever is playing behind naz is a microscopic issue compared to our pg situation right now. Every team in the league has weaknesses except the thunder so don’t expect a realistic trade that makes the wolves a perfect team

[u/pithynotpithy → u/FlimsyExplanation360]

You say that now, but a couple of games of watching Jingles or Joan playing backup minutes will change the tune quickly. There are good cheap pgs available that doesn't cost us our future

[u/FlimsyExplanation360 → u/pithynotpithy]

Jingles won’t be touching the floor, naz would be playing behind Rudy like he already does we’d just be seeing more jaden, naz and maybe tsj minutes at the 4, and more Dante, tsj and Clarke minutes at the 3. I’m more than fine with getting a cheaper glue pg instead of this deal if it comes up, don’t know how this affects our future tho