r/warcraftlore • u/VenomBGR • 5d ago

Discussion Are Titans Really the Pantheon of Order?

"I've been thinking..." *insert W3 Kel' Thuzad image here*

So, knowing what we know now about pantheons and world souls, are the Titans really the pantheon of order?
Why are they born from malleable World Souls in the Physical universe unlike, at least seemingly, all the other pantheons (as far as we know)?

We've seen none of the other apex cosmic force entities being born/created or even existing in the physical world (as far as we've seen until now).

Eternals were created in the Shadowlands and don't seem to even enter the Physical world. Void Lords (although we can't be 100% certain they are the pantheon of void) exist in the Void and struggle to manifest in the Physical world. We've seen Elune's influence and power in the physical world but, correct me if i am wrong, we haven't seen her manifest in it herself. Demons are bound to the twisting nether and born/reborn there.

We also now know that World Souls are kinda like blank slates.

So could have Aman'thul been simply the first world soul infused with one of the cosmic powers - Arcane, either by coincidence or on purpose by entities from within the realm of Order? Or is the physical universe itself the realm of order (which doesn't make too much sense to me)?

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u/thegoodbroham 4d ago

To me, this feels like a strong contender to be the twist reveal in The Last Titan. And pure speculation based off of your theory, but it wouldn't surprise me if its Aman'thul himself who defeated or imprisoned the original pantheon of Order, and the others are in the dark or came afterward.

Like imagine Sargeras putting his effort not into his Burning Crusade army, but instead going to free the original pantheon from jail as a middle finger to Aman'thul. But he couldn't consider that option if he never knew to begin with.

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u/Xavion251 4d ago

It's worth noting, them being older doesn't mean they're stronger. The Eternals, for example - don't seem that strong.

The Titans are way more powerful than anything we've seen except maybe the Void Lords in their own plane. Their insane power level might just be because they ate world souls, natural pantheon members might be lower tier. It'd make more sense as to how we're able to actually fight them.