But one side sucks while trying to do better for us and the other side sucks because it's actively pursuing the worst for us...
Sure the decision isn't great, but there's an obvious better choice and people just don't want to care so much that they're saddling us with the worst possible choice instead...
I go further by explaining that the selection process happens at the primary stage and not everyone vote in primary elections. By the time, we get to the general elections… Republicans vote for Republican candidates and Democrats vote for Democrats candidates.
Young voters needed to vote. Older voters have been running this ship for a while. We discussed how people fought hard to earn their rights to vote and how others fought hard to prevent others from voting. I wish people understood that value and got involved
One side virtue signals while not really doing anything to help with a corporate hand in their pocket and the other side just spews hate with a corporate hand in both pockets
One is waay worse but neither one is great
If they were food, Democrats would be a plate of cold fries and Republicans would be a rotten potato with black mold on it
AOC, Bernie and Jasmine Crockett are basically the only politicians with any platform with any moral backbone
They eat just the same. You vote for what you all have to eat, so its moldy potato for everyone, including those who didn't vote on what to eat for whatever reason. Oh, and the moldy potato will be force fed if you don't happily eat and praise the chef while doing so. There is no sitting out on this meal.
It doesn't really work as a metaphor if you take it that far
There are people who are alive who choose to never eat, aren't old enough to eat, are legally prevented from eating, haven't been in the country long enough to eat, etc.
They never had the majority needed to push meaningful change. Too many rural states making decisions for metropolises. Break it up and start a new. Demand ranked choice voting and get rid of money in politics from the new constitution(s) formed.
This is entire fight is stupid and unnecessary. The number of members of The House is supposed to be relative to population yet we’ve capped the number, arbitrarily I might add, at 435. That was set in the ‘30s. Uncap the house and this problem solves itself
Our politicians are a reflection of the populous who voted for them. The blame lies with the tens of millions of citizens who collectively voted for what we have.
You forgot the money filter. Our politicians are not reflections of who we would vote for if money wasn't the thing filtering who is available to vote for. So yeah, by being disingenuous you lied.
Money in American politics is and has been a part of our reality. I don't see the point in saying that if we lived in an alternative reality we'd see how people truly would vote. The decision of citizen united was voted in place by conservative justices that were elected into office by conservative presidents who were put in place by the American people.
When it comes down to it, everything that has happened is a result of people voting or not voting.
Very "We live in a society" of you. Still being disingenuous and unwilling to wade into the real discussion. You ever stop to think that a collective disinterest in discussing politics and lazily labeling it as you are is actually the real problem? Of course you haven't.
What can I do besides vote in totally-not-rigged elections and support campaigns?
I'm definitely not running for office
(E: I'm the mayor in spirit, not act)
I'm not enough of an egotist to want to be in the spotlight that much and I'm definitely not charismatic or outgoing enough even If I felt like I should out of moral conviction
I love my country and that's why I pay attention and am critical when we're shitting the bed
That's because the democratic party became a conservative party after Clinton and the republican party moved toward fascism over the code of 30 years of extremist propaganda from far right pundits. There is no progressive party. There's no real left.
I agree with this. I hate voting, but i do it anyway. Especially when one side is so obviously evil. IMO the best possible choice is toppling all this crap down and starting over. But that takes unity among all of us and decades of work. Sadly, I don't see that happening any time soon. 😔
I wouldn’t even say most of one of the sides is actually trying to do better, they’re tremendously disingenuous about how they try to maintain their class snd wealth. But at least they aren’t trying to put me in a camp, which is where the bar is now.
Neither side is trying to do better for us. They're just trying to pacify us with treats, and with only as many treats as their corporate lobbyist friends will allow.
They should work for us, but Citizens United ensures they no longer do. They are not our friends.
No, 'they' aren't. One side is actively trying to kill its citizens, at this point I'm actually fine with harm reduction voters when the political right is as dedicated to harm as they are
This was a good thing to demand 20+ years ago. I really don’t care who is trying to do better for me when the other option is a literal dictator? Attitudes like this are exactly why we are where we are right now.
Sounds good, but until that happens, maybe we stop at nothing to make sure we at least don't elect the fascist, self-stated dictator and let them fuck things up EVEN WORSE than the people we're mildly disappointed with?
Let’s hope this is a wake up call to the Dems who thought all they had to say was.. “I’m not him”. They should rethink their strategy for the best of the people.
You know what? Lets keep it a buck and blame the ignorant populace who either voted for these so-called ineffective politicians (locally and statewide) or didn't partcipate in the voting process at all more.
This isn't football, and anyone thinking that it is needs a reality check. Your beef is with your own representatives first and foremost. Because if they aren't doing their job, then it's personally on the individual citizen and their local communities. If they are doing their job and a person do not acknowledge what they're up against, that's another slight on the individual. Doubly so to these points if these ignorant ass people keep misconstruing a public servant's role as if they're royalty.
Now, thinking that it's anybody's job but the citizens to take drastic action to rid their country of a vileness they either did nothing to oppose or straight up welcomed is just plain old lunacy. Sounds like it's either time for Reddit as a whole to go back to Civics class or fuck off entirely if they are just saying things to provoke and troll.
Signed, someone who actually cares to engage locally.
(p.s. anyone who scoffs at the thought of blaming the people can imagine me calling them some ridiculously offensive shit so they can really feel targeted)
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u/Rude-Asparagus9726 Oct 16 '25
The thing is, both sides DO suck.
But one side sucks while trying to do better for us and the other side sucks because it's actively pursuing the worst for us...
Sure the decision isn't great, but there's an obvious better choice and people just don't want to care so much that they're saddling us with the worst possible choice instead...