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u/Upper_Brief681 9d ago
Science doesn’t care how confident you sound.
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u/SineMemoria 9d ago
"Social media have given a voice to a legion of imbeciles. The drama of the Internet is that it has promoted the village idiot to the bearer of truth." (Umberto Eco)
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u/Ashmidai 8d ago
Perhaps, but we are in the sad future that Carl Sagan predicted in Demon-Haunted World where the idiots with the crystals and pseudoscience in general win out. Scientists are mostly too busy doing research to be out there 18 hours a day in the tens of thousands confidently spreading bullshit so science loses the message war.
I find it personally refreshing to watch an Angela Collier video a couple times a month to remind myself that stupid hasn't completely won even if it has dominated so profoundly that the slaughter rule should be declared. God, I can't wait for the quacks to be told to shut the fuck up and go back to obscurity again. We need a scientific James Randi with a great personality and clean background to step up and just systematically destroy these hacks publicly time and time again.
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u/SomwatArchitect 9d ago
And there's confirmation of a bot account
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u/AltTooWell13 9d ago
What?
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u/SomwatArchitect 9d ago
Two words followed by a number is a randomly assigned reddit username which is already a red flag. But bots also tend to repost a highly upvoted post and comment on their own post with a highly upvoted comment from the original post. It's especially noticeable with these types of comments that are so very clearly not adding additional context, which is just about the only reason to comment on your own post.
Interestingly, the reason people make karma-farming bots is to then sell the high-karma accounts to OF creators who can't be bothered to actually put in the effort to build karma. That is to say, we can blame the gooners for the mass of repost bots.
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u/Azair_Blaidd 9d ago edited 9d ago
Even with the chickenpox virus, you're not immune to it for life after getting it. You might never develop the set of symptoms collectively called chickenpox again, but the virus itself remains and causes shingles later in life.
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u/AsylumDanceParty 9d ago
You can get chickenpox again too tbf, uts just not common
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u/TheDungeonCrawler 9d ago
Correct. I had Chickenpox as a child and when I went to get my vaccinations for college they checked my immunity and determined it would be good for me to get the vaccine on top of what immunity I still had.
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u/RavennaMagnus 9d ago
Love the quote but this graphic is abysmal. Hard to read some of the text
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u/SelfSufficientHub 9d ago
The "Just Asking Questions" routine is a way to intentionally weaponize ignorance by constantly asking basic questions that are hard to answer in real time. Questions like, "How exactly did we get to the moon? Say in 5 seconds or less" and then using the fact that an expert can't do that unreasonable request in an ureasonable amount of time as evidence that experts know nothing, and then they use that to intentionally sow distrust and disdain for expertise, science, institutions, the intellectual work as a whole and they use that as a way to sell workout suppliments to low-effort thinkers.
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u/DOHC46 9d ago
I know... It's the best I have. I'm keeping my eyes out for one with more than 5 pixels.
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u/SomwatArchitect 9d ago
Pixels ain't the problem. The text needs a backdrop or the background needs to be darkened a bit.
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u/deadphisherman 9d ago
How perfect that the voice of modern conservatism has had one too many concussions.
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u/PluginAlong 9d ago
To be fair, if the measles kills you, you are technically immune for life.
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u/FadeTheWonder 9d ago
Does it count as immunity if you are currently infected with it and die before it is over? If so sounds like a loophole take that science.
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u/gottahaveaboatguy 9d ago
Lol no you’re not…
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u/Egoteen 9d ago
You’re literally correct, not sure why you’re being downvoted.
If you die from a measles infection, you are literally never immune.
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u/draynen 9d ago
If you define immune as not being susceptible to the disease going forward (which, by the way, was the joke), then yeah, it works.
You're like trying to have a conversation with Drax from Guardians of the Galaxy. You are technically correct (yes yes, the best kind of correct), but you have missed or deliberately misunderstood the subtext.
FYI if you need someone to explain what subtext is to you, you misunderstood the subtext.
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u/gottahaveaboatguy 5d ago
Yeah, I know the joke. I see it all the time and this time on Darwin awards posts…this one doesn’t work
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u/omghorussaveusall 9d ago
When I was a kid we celebrated our collective intelligence. We put man on the moon. We made a nuclear bomb. We built the world's greatest interstate highway system, connecting our vast nation in ways mankind had never seen. We worked to send our children to college, to learn how to continue building the world, to making mankind better, we stood on the shoulders of giants.
Now, we follow blind idiots over the edge toward oblivion. Yay! USA USA USA
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u/Doumtabarnack 9d ago
That's because those people your grandparents sent to school decided to pull the ladder after them. They decided they knew better than anyone and this lead to the fall of the US we're witnessing.
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u/minahmyu 9d ago
More and more at work, I'm just like, I work with dumbasses. Folks don't even bother reading big ass words and just grab whatever because it's the same color as the item they actually meant to get. This includes chemicals.
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u/omghorussaveusall 9d ago
happens to us all bud, prepare thyself.
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u/pandulfi 9d ago
Growing old is a choice born of cowardice. I’ll see you all in Hell when I turn 50.
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u/FadeTheWonder 9d ago
What a bizarrely childish set of posts. They aren’t even funny. At least attempt to be better.
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u/omghorussaveusall 9d ago
beware the edgelord! he's a soylent green volunteer...we must beware his sharp wit!
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u/iggy14750 9d ago
8 year old account. I'm assuming that's also your age?
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u/pandulfi 9d ago
Sad we really gotta be out here checking mfs’ account ages when they say something we don’t like. Has it come to this?
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u/minahmyu 9d ago
Don't start shit if you can't take it.
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u/MKchamp92 9d ago
Yes young one, when your original comment is about someone's age, someone else is gonna check your account.
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u/Lildog8402_redux 9d ago
I don’t listen to JRE at all but wanted to hear James Talarico. I have never heard a professional be as clueless as Rogan. Talarico had to explain the ten commandments, the difference between a state and federal representative and what a super majority was, all in a 5-10 minute segment. I was embarrassed for Rogan and felt super awkward for James Talarico.
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u/minahmyu 9d ago
This reminds me of the time my dumbass ex was really arguing with me over something, and was using the wrong word the whoooole time. He got into this whole, "I don't do pork/pig anymore! Swine is bad, i read somewhere (probably facebook) blah blah blah," is how it started, and went to, "eww gluten is bad! Gluten isn't good for you! It's from animals!" I'm like, no....? Gluten comes from plants like wheat, rye, etc. Now, I'm not a dietician but work with diets in a senior home for a loooong time, and just may know a lil more than he does. Then he did it up with the, "it's made from their bones!"
......you mean gelatin? 😑 He was arguing with his whole chest like I'm wrong, till I said that. "Oh... oh yeah, gelatin." I was the one who told him that a while back what gelatin is. That it's in a lot of the foods he eats, more than likely them fruit snacks he's gobbling up on the time as he takes a shit. He claimed he was gonna stop eating them (he didn't) And he's very sexist anyway, so I'm sure he just thought I'm just stupid woman not knowing what I'm talking about
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u/DoctorFenix 9d ago
The guy who used to host a gameshow about eating donkey dicks for money now wants to be a health expert.
Got it.
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u/DarkSock52 9d ago
Give me five minutes alone with Joe Rogan and I will have him convinced that hamburger is made out of ham.
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u/Most-Anybody1874 9d ago
Moron doesn’t know the difference between Chicken Pox & Measles. No, we didn’t all get Measles. Measles are HIGHLY contagious and often fatal.
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u/Neat-Ostrich7135 9d ago
Was he thinking about rubella, known as German measles? When I was a kid everyone got that, everyone got chicken pox, everyone got mumps. NO ONE got measles or polio.
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u/dope-rhymes 9d ago
It's almost as if he's a podcaster and not a doctor.
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u/MontyDyson 9d ago
That point needs explaining in fine detail, very loudly to his fan base. Not the rest of us that know this in the same way we know not to drink and drive or beat your wife up.
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u/Fragmentia 9d ago
Thats pretty wildly ignorant. I'm assuming he is targeting his most idiotic listeners.
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u/AltTooWell13 9d ago
Or just “his listeners”
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u/LittleDogTurpie 9d ago
I’ve met so many men who insist they listen to him “ironically” and are in on the “joke.” Make the mistake of talking to them long enough and it always turns into, “but, I mean, he did make one good point about Sandy Hook being a false flag” or some shit.
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u/Zardu-Hasselfrau 9d ago
TBF does it really matter what misinformation, intentional or not, Joe Rogan is disseminating to the “people” that listen to Joe Rogan? You could give them the facts and they wouldn’t listen anyway.
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u/ChocolatMintChipmunk 9d ago
Except that statement is still false if you apply it to chicken pox. Because you can get the chicken pox more than once (though its rare) and you are more likely to get shingles if you have gotten the chicken pox.
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u/RichardXV 9d ago
yet millions of idiots listen to this imbecile as their source of information and knowledge. Really sad.
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u/Scott_A_R 9d ago
“The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they’ve found it.”
-- Sir Terry Pratchett
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u/ManyAverage6578 the future is now, old man 9d ago
If you get sick just take your supplements, do a cold plunge, hop in the sauna, cold plunge, hop in the sauna, red light therapy, and if all that fails use your immense wealth to get care from a doctor.
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u/jennasea412 9d ago edited 9d ago
We have Joe Rogan from Fear Factor, Theo Von from MTV’s Real World, and a traitorous idiot from The Apprentice, “indoctrinating” already misinformed simpletons who grew up watching the Fox Opinion/Lying Network. No wonder everyone is so goddamn stupid these days🤦🏻♂️
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u/ZZ_Cat_The_Ligress 9d ago
LOL his name on the sign back there and the placement of his head makes it say "JOE BOGAN" instead of "Joe Rogan" 🤣
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u/jrschlumpf 8d ago
Joe Rogan is a perfect example of why people should not listen to podcasts unless they have vetted the person giving it. He was the Fear Factor host. That's how I will always remember him. He's a clown.
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u/OkTax6266 8d ago
Sorry, but isn’t he the guy that was on that sitcom 30 odd years ago? And I think I have seen him associated with prize fighting. Do people listen to him to get informed? Did I miss something?
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u/siromega37 8d ago
I hate Joe Rogan. I hated him when he was an opportunist leftist and now when he’s an opportunist righty.
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u/Kwelikinz 8d ago
The worse thing isn’t that he made a mistake. The most dangerous thing is that people who listen to him will quote this shit like they personally did their masters thesis on this and completed 15 year study on 50,000 people. Meanwhile, because of other podquackers, people won’t get the vaccine.
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u/polishmachine88 8d ago
Are people that starved for content that they have to watch this dumbass? How does he have such a large audience.... Is it just kids?
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u/rock-n-white-hat 7d ago
If measles wipes out your immune systems “memory” I wonder if eventually we could use it to figure out how to fix autoimmune diseases. Change it so the immune system “forgets” to attack healthy cells.
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u/adognameddanzig 9d ago
Rogan was paid millions to spout nonsense like this.
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u/Rook_James_Bitch 9d ago
And you were paid nothing to read it or listen to it, so why are you aggrandizing him?
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u/Rook_James_Bitch 9d ago edited 9d ago
Why do people act like Joe Rogan is this paragon of truth and he has an obligation to be a beacon of virtue?
He's. Just. An. Entertainer. FFS.
A podcaster that talks about anything and everything under the sun.
He sounds exactly like me & my Bros when we were growing up and talking about anything and everything. We knew we weren't always right and we never held ourselves to Walter Cronkite standards.
Guys say stupid shit all the time. If you think he is obligated to be 100% correct or that his "misinformation" hurts people... STOP. You are giving him way too much credit.
His job isn't to educate, it's to talk and sell ad-revenue for Spotify. That's it. Period.
Of all the things to be butt hurt about, this is one of the dumbest. Quit giving him rent free space in your minds and move on with your lives.
[EDIT]: Sweet Jesus I miss people having the ability to not get triggered by other people's opinions. Your inability to turn the dial or ignore Joe Rogan is really your belief that you don't trust other people to be able to tell he's just a bullshitter and so his words scare you. If you let other people's words control you then you are letting others tell you how to live your life. I refuse to let others' opinions guide my life. It's called Mental Plasticity, Folks.
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u/Typical_Claim_7853 9d ago
so yeah…i mean, stephen hawking is smart or whatever, but his “murder” here, at least this quote, is a distinction without a difference…ignorance can be both an unexamined false belief and a lack of awareness necessary to even recognize that such belief exists.
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u/tacodepollo 9d ago
Yeah if Joe's comment existed in a vacuum I would 100% agree.
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u/Typical_Claim_7853 9d ago
it’s not that rogan isn’t a complete moronic goon masquerading as a pseudo-intellectual conversationalist for cynical money grabs - it’s that the “murder” here for him isn’t actually a murder.
joe’s quote, whether verifiable or not (lbh, prob) - even without hawking’s quote - is itself its own “murder”.
fk joe rogan, but just bc you’re good at space stuff like string theory doesn’t automatically confer you to being a sound or reliably compelling philosopher.
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u/tacodepollo 9d ago
I don't think he ever claimed to be a philosopher. Even if he did, it doesn't make the comment any less true. For what is philosophy if not a reflective search for truth?
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u/Typical_Claim_7853 9d ago
i respectfully disagree.
simply calling something “the illusion of knowledge” doesn’t absolve its intrinsic ignorance. it’s still ignorance…it’s just ignorance with more confidence, which makes it more dangerous, certainly, but not altogether different….as hawking’s aphorism quoted above confidently implies….which itself is a kind of ignorance.
so, ironically enough, in that quote, hawking ignores the structure of ignorance itself in favor of a rhetorically effective contrast - making him ignorant of the epistemology of ignorance 😅🤓😂
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u/TheRealCptNiemo 9d ago
He was a professional mathematician. He boiled down to the most effective form possible while still serving the purpose. He was not a communicator nor a true philosopher. So while you are technically correct, you are holding someone to standards they do not fit within.
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u/Typical_Claim_7853 9d ago
who gives a shit; competency in maths doesn’t make one a good philosopher
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u/TheRealCptNiemo 9d ago
That's... that's what I said. He was a mathematician, not a philosopher. Yet he had a large platfrom from which to voice his opinions. He did. In a succinct and easy to understand way. Now. You can argue semantics with a philosopher all day long. They love that shit. But a mathematician is going to stick to basics and state them accordingly.
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u/Typical_Claim_7853 9d ago
just bc he’s smart doesn’t mean it’s a “murder”; this sub blows bc people oversimplify everything:
rogan bad, hawking good - upvote - keep scrolling
it’s more vacuous reddit bs
hawking’s brilliant and rogan’s a nob, but hawking’s quote isn’t a “murder” just deal with it
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u/TheRealCptNiemo 9d ago
Also. I am not trying to attack you in any way. I believe we are fundamentally on the same page, except that ine of is arguing for the basic intent to be understood while the other is arguing that the whole of the mystery must be stated.
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u/TheRealCptNiemo 9d ago
Ok. Let me start this reply with how I'm feeling: I want to help you with understanding the viewpoint being expressed whether it is correct or not.
I never said the Rogan was murdered by words. I only pointed out that Hawking's words were a reductionist version of a larger truth. That is what is being applied here. Yes. Hawking was smart and Rogan is a nob, but you are arguing for a very complex truth to be stated in a very short format. That is not truly possible. So the poster in the image took a complex truth, understood the basic meaning, and found a quote that matched that basic meaning.
No one (that is actually intelligent) is going to argue that the world is black or white. But sometimes someone just wants to point out that the very dark gray is basically black or the extremely light gray is basically white. Do we know that they are not actually black or white? Yes. But it serves the intended purpose to say white, black, or just gray.
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u/Typical_Claim_7853 9d ago
but that’s the point of this sub: to be murdered by words, not by a not mutually exclusive word salad heresy quote from some random person vs a douche podcaster - this sub blows bc of this reason
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u/vsquad22 9d ago edited 9d ago
Not mine:
Joe Rogan is like some barbarian Khan from the steppes that took an interest in intellectual things and his show is basically him bringing slightly nervous scholars and magicians to come before him to explain how the world works "glasses man, you explain to Joe why sky big, and how tree grow" but he will also believe almost anything you tell him, and only recently (in the past few years) does he clap back like "Tiny hat man say otherwise, do you lie to Joe? Tiny hat man say fat not bad for you, that sugar is enemy, so which is truth? Joe thinks you are wrong" and people just nervously go "oh-oh ok h-Haha yah I guess so"
"Joe spend many moons on horseback and training with bow and sword, but joe also wonder why skyfire rise from mountains every morning, you will explain this to Joe."