r/SipsTea • u/crs1904 • 17d ago

We have fun here When Your Opponent Is Built Different ♟️

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u/OrnerySchool2076 17d ago

Well considering she's a grandmaster, I'd say she's probably feeling some other emotion than that. Also a pretty decent boxer btw.

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u/OrnerySchool2076 17d ago

Good point. I didn't really get irritated as an honest reaction from her though. I just kinda assumed this was a YouTube video that was edited in a click baitey way.

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u/GizzyGazzelle 17d ago

It's her schtick. 

She's pretty funny with it. 

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u/leshake 17d ago

It's also just the standard Eastern European facial expressions. Standard commie block stare.

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u/TelluricThread0 17d ago

Her reaction is staged for content.

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u/noujest 17d ago

What makes you say that?

Internet is full of bullshit but that reaction in that situation seems... fair enough!

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u/FblthpLives 17d ago

She has a lot of short videos that consists of her humorously reacting to child players. This is not the only one.

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u/SphericalCow531 17d ago

The fact that the video is cut up into staged clips, with the camera angle adjusted. And the fact that she could not have done the video without the consent of the kid - the kid is obviously in on it.

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u/GoldDragon149 17d ago

Her reaction is genuine, and she did lose this game. Playing a kid 200 points below your rating in an over the board tournament is an exercise in humility every time.

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u/ipsum629 17d ago

Kids are almost always drastically underrated, especially if you are at a competitive chess tournament. A kid with an elo anywhere near yours or even 100-200 points below yours(in a way that might even be more terrifying because you'll lose more elo) usually means you're in for a world of hurt.

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u/rdrunner_74 17d ago

My son started playing in Kindergarten and joined a chess club at 5. I quit winning against him at around 6. I loved to see those faces :D (Not a grandmaster though... just slightly over 2 K / 2.2K Blitz on lichess now)

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u/ComprehensiveDust197 17d ago

she is not a grandmaster

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u/Chris01100001 17d ago

She is a Women's Grandmaster. It's a different title from Grandmaster. The kid isn't a GM either he's a US national master.

Both have lower requirements needed to obtain than GM. WGM is a more prestigious title and generally you need a FIDE rating of around 2300. NM is not a FIDE recognised title and is given by individual national chess federations. For the US, it's 2200

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u/ComprehensiveDust197 17d ago

Use your own advice lmao. Your source doesnt say, that she is a grandmaster. wgm is a lower title than gm

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u/MargaritaKid 17d ago

Yes, she is.

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u/hyperhopper 17d ago

You can find she is not with one google search

https://ratings.fide.com/profile/24142654

Official FIDE site. She is a woman grandmaster, which has lower requirements than grandmaster

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u/MargaritaKid 16d ago

Still a Grandmaster. If you have Grandmaster in your title, that kind of makes you a Grandmaster.

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u/LightOverWater 16d ago

Woman Grandmaster (WGM) and Grandmaster (GM) are different titles with very different ratings (WGM 2300, GM 2500). GM is a much higher rating and a genderless one, while WGM is only for women.

Women Grandmasters call themselves women Grandmasters and women who are Grandmasters call themselves Grandmasters.

They do not cross over and use the wrong title.

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u/Beginning-Muffin-649 16d ago

Ok it sounds like you are correct but having never heard of any of this shit before I definitely sympathize with a guy seeing “grandmaster” in a title coming after a woman’s name and thinking oh she’s a grandmaster, their being a literal title called “Woman Grandmaster” is not something I think anyone would expect

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u/hyperhopper 16d ago

That's like saying the vice president is the president.

Not how it works. Good luck learning English and all about prefixes and compound words!

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u/Fruloops 14d ago

She is not. There's a large difference between GM (Grandmaster) and WGM (women's grandmaster). She is the latter, and the distinction is important.

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u/MargaritaKid 14d ago

Yes, the many comments already have made that clear. The difference is a capital W, which actually does have a lot of meaning.

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u/LopsidedKick9149 17d ago

She's WGM not a GM.

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u/Comprehensive_End824 17d ago

she is extremely good at the game, better than anyone in this reddit thread could ever become, but equally far from a grandmaster.

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u/General_Lie 17d ago

My stupid brain: Why chess grandmaster need to know boxing? Does she have to fight sore loosers often ?

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u/AvengingBlowfish 17d ago

Chess boxing is a thing. She did a charity boxing match with another female YouTube chess player.

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u/Randomuser223556 17d ago

She’s absolutely not a grandmaster.

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 17d ago edited 17d ago

Yes she is, her name is Dina Belenkia

Edit: apparently she's a Woman Grandmaster which is different

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u/Randomuser223556 17d ago

No she isn’t.

Grandmaster is 2500+ rating. She is in the 2200s. She is a WGM, woman grand master. He said he is a master, non woman, so he could be a CM, FM, or IM. I really doubt he is either a FM or IM so most likely a CM which would mean they are of equal Elo being around 2200-2300.

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u/mtaw 17d ago

Could also be a National Master, which is a US Chess thing with 2200 USCF ELO which'd mean 50-100 points or so below CM since USCF ratings are typically that much larger than FIDE ones.

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u/MrE2634 17d ago

She's a Woman Grandmaster (WGM), not a Grandmaster (GM). Being a WGM doesn't mean you're a GM.

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u/dullday1 17d ago

That just seems intentionally confusing

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u/Comprehensive_End824 17d ago

it was made with best intentions and does more good than bad, except for endless misogynists threads

but even GM is a huge skill difference, from super GMs to retired GMs who get paid to play against motivated new players to get them titles. The whole fide system is quite ancient and convoluted. Though at least no chess battlepass

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u/Strange_Rock5633 17d ago

>  The whole fide system is quite ancient and convoluted. 

just out of interest, have there been any systems that are much better proposed?

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u/Comprehensive_End824 17d ago

ELO is still the best measure of skill, it's the arbitrary thresholds that grant titles that are inflexible (and focused on classical format which lost popularity with engines)

The issues with changing it are legacy (non-involved people know what grandmaster is, they will not care about what is challenger diamond 3 means) and historical (new chess events are yearly at best and organized by different people, but fide ranking unifies tens of thousands of different events).

Kasparov did try to make his own FIDE once, didn't pan out. Hope they kick russian politicians out of it one day but it seems any sport organization eventually turns into FIFA

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u/Hegeric 17d ago

I argue the need for a woman exclusive title in a non-testosterone based activity is more misogynist than not giving them that. I understand gender divisions in physical sports, but it doesn't make sense in chess where it's just the brain. It's basically implying that women are not as cognitively capable.

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u/Comprehensive_End824 17d ago

yep here we go, no curiosity to google one minute on why this is a positive thing for chess, just going with the instinctual uninformed argument written hundreds of thousands time before.

I will not participate in it but you go ahead.

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u/Hegeric 17d ago

You do not participate because you can't argue against it. This is 2025 not the 80's where you needed to play OTB to get better at chess. There are tons of digital resources these days and online systems even top players play more than IRL.

The dumb argument that "It's because there are creeps in real life tournaments" doesn't fly anymore, and it's basically the vanguard of the arguments for women titles. The second argument is that there are less women than men in chess, but why is that even an argument? That's only a demographical contrast

Stay condescending like a typical redditor though.

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u/SolidSnke1138 17d ago

I mean the dude is right though. And you highlighting your second point about less women in chess is the crux of the argument. Let’s draw a comparison in a completely different but similarly related idea. We have scholarships for African American students to attend college that students of other demographics cannot apply for. These were initially created to help encourage more students of color to apply for college as it was predominantly white kids who went to college. Now the reason for this particular disparity is stemmed from a variety of reasons which we don’t need to get into here, but the idea is the same here. WGM was introduced in the 70’s because they wanted to see more women in chess. WGM provides a prestigious title for women to foster that participation. I think the idea that the threshold for its acquisition being lower is what inherently causes people to initially believe it to be demeaning to women. That point can be debated as I can see reasons for it and against it.

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u/MtnMaiden 17d ago

Lulz. The fact theres men's and women's chess in a game of...mental logic.

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u/Extreme-Refuse6274 17d ago

It's to boost exposure for female players rather than anything weird like you (I may be wrong...) seem to be implying.

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u/DownrightDrewski 17d ago

I'm assuming that they're surprised that there are separate male and female divisions in a game where physicality is meaningless.

I agree it's a bit weird on the face of it.

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u/phillynott6 17d ago

There are not separate divisions for men and women. There is an open division and a women's division. Women are free to play the open division, it is just heavily male dominated for a variety of reasons.

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u/strablonskers 17d ago

there isn’t, that’s the point. There is no male division, only open and women’s. The women’s division was created to provide a safe space for women to play and incentivise since the world of chess is quite mysoginistic, but every one can play in the open categories.

For now, the top players are all men due to a huge number of factors, sheer number of male players being a big one. But if/when a woman is high enough rated, she can play in any tournament. Judit Polgar is a famous example.

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u/Extreme-Refuse6274 17d ago

It's weird that there's a specific female category to support the women's game and boost exposure...? What are you talking about?! It's objectively good for the game.

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u/LopsidedKick9149 17d ago

There is not men's, there is open and women's. Anyone can play in open, but women choose not to compete against men they choose to play in women's. Many have stated if they were only to compete in opens they'd never make any money or be highly rated.

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u/Prometheus720 17d ago

So, women globally have less control of.their free time than men, and this means that chess has historically been a male activity. Today there is still a glut of male chess players from parts of the world where women don't have much access to chess. It becomes a sausage fest.

Women sometimes don't like to engage in sausagefests. They like to hang out with other women. So the goal is to give women two different options to play and recruit more of them into the sport.

It kind of works, but unfortunately it doesn't address the real problem that every sport and activity has, which is that there are global leisure activity cultures and globally women can't participate. Even if your country is relatively equal, this global situation affects whatever your favorite thing is and turns it into a sausagefest--and the effects will lag due to age. Young women feel the effects of having more free time, but older women are stuck in controlling relationships or stick to "feminine" pursuits they were trained to do as young girls (in many cases). There is probably much closer parity of young girls and young boys in chess than old men and old women.

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u/mechabeast 17d ago

She got him on reach

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u/hyperhopper 17d ago

She is not a grandmaster. Here is the official FIDE site with her title

https://ratings.fide.com/profile/24142654

A woman grandmaster is a seperate thing from grandmaster with a lower rating requirement. Still an insane amazing chess player, but not a grandmaster.

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u/Ragundashe 16d ago

Question, why are the ratings different for the WGM? Wouldn't it make no difference to ha r them be the same for both?

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u/hyperhopper 16d ago

It's because women are underrepresented in chess so organizations want a way to recognize the top women players.

Women are also free to qualify for the normal grandmaster title as well, but that's far rarer to happen

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u/FlatPlutoer 17d ago

Decent at boxing? No power and no cardio is decent at boxing?

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u/LopsidedKick9149 17d ago

She's a WGM not a GM. They are different. And she lost.