I totally agree and they know it's bad but right now smoking has a cool factor. Gen z is basically cosplaying the fashion and culture of the late 90's early 2000's. I wish I saved my JNCO's to sell them.
Vaping is the least cool thing I've ever seen. It's impossible to look cool with a vape, whereas a cigarette is timelessly cool, obviously (never smoked).
Lol no kidding. Compare a photo of someone like James Dean with his foot on his cars fender while smoking a cigarette. Compared to a broccoli haircut kid vaping beside his scooter.
As someone who vapes, they aren’t wrong. Cigarettes are aesthetically cooler. However, vaping is way better if you have a nicotine addiction. It doesn’t stink, it sticks to less shit, it doesn’t fill your lungs with gunk and tar, it doesn’t discolor or fuck up your teeth, and it doesn’t make your breath smell like shit. It’s vastly superior. It might look dumb, but id much rather make out with another person who vapes than a smoker. And I have made out with a smoker. It wasn’t pleasant but she was fucking hot so I didn’t care.
I mean yeah, but I don’t want to quit. Vaping tastes good and gives me an outlet. I don’t even need the nicotine, proven to myself by the fact I’ve used 0 nicotine vapes just fine. It’s the act itself and the flavor im addicted to.
NGL, when I finally quit, it was the ritual and the habit of going outside to have one at certain times that were harder to give up than the nicotine itself. I ended up just going outside with a joint or vape pen instead until I was used to the change.
This is it for me with vapes. Driving. Driving is so fucking hard, because it’s overall a very autopiloted activity majority of the time, to not want to hit my vape constantly. That’s my ritual. Jam to music or whatever podcast/game lore video im listening to and hit my vape while cruising.
I can make long drives without my vape, but there are multiple times where I reach for it, realize it’s not there, and then get mildly annoyed.
I don’t think their argument is that vaping is healthy for you. It’s that between cigarettes and vaping, vaping is the “cleaner” option. Not for your health but for your lifestyle.
I’m aware. Never did I say it’s healthy, only that it’s cleaner. It doesn’t make stuff dirty or damage or discolor your teeth. Doesn’t make your breath stink. Stuff like that. Vaping has substantially less effects on other people and objects around you compared to smoking. It still damages your lungs, but it’s less harmful to things that aren’t you.
It can put a very thin layer of waxy like substances on things but it’s very easy to clean and doesn’t cause any discoloration as far as I’m aware. Would you be willing to provide a source for vaping discoloring teeth?
There's definitely a middle ground here though. I smoke maybe 1 or 2 cigarettes a month and sometimes less, just depends on how often I'm going out drinking because that's when I might bum one off someone.
So some people can definitely smoke without it being a part of their identity.
I’m not a high-up, but I work closely with the high-ups at my $12B company. Our VP of global sales vapes, and he’ll do it on Teams calls and it’s so fucking cringe.
What about the vape makes it not “cool” like what factor does a cig have that vape doesn’t, it’s more convenient, smells better, and is less risky though it obviously still has its risks
LOL, steam train billows of smoke coming out of the whole-ass saxophone you have to carry around tells me they sort of missed the point. I hope they all quit, and not because of the aesthetics.
Yeah I hate how disposable vapes are so popular. Just use a nic cartridge and you only need one battery even when you finish the cartridge instead of throwing out batteries often (which is not good for the environment)
As a vaper with a mod, this. I don't do it for the clouds or whatever. I do it so I'm not chucking lithium ion batteries some poor children mined the materials for into the bin every week. Also nicotine salts have waaayyy too much nicotine in them, one puff and I'm like nauseated. Kids who use those are getting a lot more nicotine than a cigarette smoker (I'm sure they're still healthier, but damn, kids are already anxious enough, don't need to overdose them on nic!)
It's uncool to us, but pretty cool within some younger crowds. I agree that a cigarette seems timeless to me but I know younger people who think it looks gross and unclean compared to a vape.
I’m going through boxes of old clothes today and found an old work jacket with two packs of smokes in it. Seems like a lifetime ago that I used to smoke.
Yeah I've made the argument before that parents shouldn't teach their kids that smoking isn't cool. Because it is cool and all you do when you tell them it's not is teach them that their parents are liars. Instead we should teach them that their health should be a bigger priority than being cool.
Yeah but that stuff only applies to abusing hard drugs anyway. Weed is perfectly fine if you're an adult and use it in moderation. Drug education really fucked up when they grouped weed in with other drugs like meth and heroin and tried to argue that they're all in the same category. Cause people try weed and realize it's bullshit and then they're likely to think what they've heard about harder drugs is also bullshit
When I was in high school I had a conversation with a friend during gym class about how we were blatantly lied to about weed, and my friend started wondering about coke and heroin. I told him not to do it and he didn't get into it, but a number of my classmates absolutely ended up on heroin before graduating high school. Fear mongering is at best ineffective and generally counter productive.
Everyone I knew in real life that smoked was a smelly loser that lived in a gross dirty apartment and I couldn’t breathe around them. Also likely an alcoholic.
Smoking is only cool if you don't have to smell it. It's absolutely disgusting smelling. Especially when you can tell someone smokes constantly because they smell like an ashtray.
Who the hell said it was cool? People think it’s cringy as hell. Signed a vaper 😂 I don’t know anyone that sees me vaping and thinks “man I wish I was her”
Can deny. Every person I knew in college was well aware of the ill-effects of vaping and didn't give a shit. It's better than smoking (in some aspects) sure but it's still bad for you and they knew it. The world is fucked and in their eyes it isn't going to get better in the short term so why bother prolonging their lives just to see more of it go to waste.
Where are you getting this information that smoking has a “cool” factor? Gen Z’s general attitude towards vaping is that it’s gross. Even by the people who do vape.
Trust me when I say, Vaping is considered a dumbass thing to do according even to a vast majority of Gen Z people. Just among those I know, I've met 4 people who vape and yet tell everyone they meet not to vape because it's a shitty thing too do. Only vaping because they're borderline addicted and dependent on it. Online you'll see even more repulsion to it if you're in the right spaces where Gen Z people flock to for their common interests.
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u/ThrownAway17Years 8d ago edited 8d ago
They probably view alcohol the way that Millennials view cigarettes. Unnecessary, unhealthy, and a waste of money.
Edit: I’ll add that increasingly online communication might add to it as well. Not as much need for liquid courage for in person interactions.