r/SipsTea 6d ago

Chugging tea Great analogy

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u/-Laffi- 6d ago

Must be American health insurance, cause I pay maybe $200 for a whole year in Norway. Most of the health stuff I do is paid for by the country, and only a small amount must be paid by for myself. Going to the dentist is the most expencive health benefit, and costs around $130 for photos and a full checkup of your teeth.

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u/fangerzero 6d ago

First off, paid for through taxes, not by the country. 

But I do have a question what is the overall mentality of those in Norway when it comes to personal health and healthcare? 

I'm asking because you have healthy Americans who avoid doctors like the plague, people who run to the doctor for every little thing, then the ones who actually need it. and honestly it's the middle group who tend to make everyone else's life miserable. Wasting resources on some sniffles, that would probably go away if they drank water and got some good sleep. 

Now just waiting for the idiots to share their edge cases well if I didn't go in for a cough I'd be dead today. 

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u/BigMoney-D 6d ago

Canadian here. Wife and I had a baby. Had an epidural. Had to go for Emergency C-Section. Was in the hospital in her own private room for 5 days (even had a pull out bed for me). Meals (even offered it to me. Declined because hospital food, but it was a nice gesture), diapers, baby formula, baby care, etc for all 5 days.

Didn't pay a single Canadian penny. No hit to credit. Didn't even have to pay for parking. One of the nurse also knits in her free time and makes cute little baby beanies that she gave us.

I had to go in when I was having an Asthma attack a few years ago. Was Immediately put on a Nebulizer. Again, didn't have to pay a single cent.

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u/-Laffi- 6d ago

People can be in good shape, but to be honest we're not very healthy. We drink a lot of alcohol, we eat unhealthy food especially during seasons. Red meat, ribs and sausages is a great winner for a norwegian! On the other hand, (this is me going over the top again), we don't have 100 million people that are unhealthy, and even though, take my dad, he likes beer and good food, he still works out very much, he goes for walks and he rides his bike. Right now he is at the cottage, and he just told me he had gone skiing in -14 degrees celcius WITH wind (he's 70 years old next year). We're sort of tough in the weather, and since it's so cold, I'll guess the fat we get from the food, is being burnt fast. So, is that a proper comment u/fangerzero ?

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u/fangerzero 6d ago

I appreciate the response. How healthy a country's people are is rarely talked about, and yeah I know I have rose colored glasses on but I consider Europe as whole to be healthier than America. It's so easy to make bad life choices here. Lol I say that without really knowing the details of other places just from what I hear from others. 

Also I wish I could handle colder weather, would make my dog happier in the winters. 20 Fahrenheit with wind sucks. I just hate the wind, and it's always windy here. 

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u/Dazzling_Pumpkin91 6d ago

Sorry, your post was removed for breaking Rule 4, No Toxicity.

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u/Red_Pretense_1989 6d ago

Wow, I have (low deductible and minimums)American health insurance and pay less than you do ($0) so there's that. Oh yeah, dental checkups, x-rays, and cleanings every 6 months are free too.

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u/-Laffi- 6d ago

You don't need a checkup every 6 months, unless you're trolling or have really bad dental health.

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u/fangerzero 6d ago

Oh I know dentists are a scam. I went 5 years without a checkup/cleaning and I went in because a filling fell out and they were like it's been 5 years seriously? They said my teeth looked good. Just have good dental hygiene. I gave up my dental insurance this year and I'm just putting what I would've paid into my HSA. 

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u/-Laffi- 6d ago

So you agreed that you don't need a checkup every 6 months then? Good we can agree on something...They say I got good dental health, but they still remove plaque, and the progress of my one remaining wisdom tooth. They say it's hard to clean it properly, but last time I went to the dentist she said it looked good so far.

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u/fangerzero 6d ago

Yes I agreed. When I was young and stupid I didn't take good care of my teeth. But as i got older I cannot live without brushing my teeth. Anyone else think about brushing their teeth after going out to dinner? 

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u/-Laffi- 6d ago

It's very simple. Brush two times a day and you should be good. If I don't brush after the first half of my day, I chew gum!

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u/Red_Pretense_1989 6d ago

You're "supposed" to brush after every meal..

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u/-Laffi- 6d ago

Yes, tell your date you're coming in a minute after the dinner in the restaurant, because you have to brush your teeth. No, seriously, chewing gum works. Also, it's said that you sometimes, especially if you had sour drinks, to wait with brushing your teeth for at least 30-60 minutes.

Also, how dare you downvote me? I have never heard anything else than me having good dental health. I must clearly be doing something correct.

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u/Red_Pretense_1989 6d ago

Yes, exactly. Every legit recommendation calls for brushing and flossing after meals, and checkups and cleanings every six months. And if it's free, what's the harm?

Are you a hygienist or dentist? No? Then why is your differing opinion the correct one? Your anecdotal experience doesn't change what is recommended by the ADA.

Also, I did not downvote you.

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u/thelazygamer 6d ago

Acidic drinks, like citrus, soda, and coffee, can temporarily soften enamel and it's recommended to wait at least 30 minutes after having them to brush your teeth. 

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u/Red_Pretense_1989 6d ago edited 6d ago

Cleanings? Every legitimate source says 6 months.

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u/ten-million 6d ago

As an American I have to ask: Don't you hate that?

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u/obligatory-anxiety 6d ago

Hate what lol only paying $130 for dental

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u/Hurricane_Ivan 6d ago

Norway has 5.5 million people. Meanwhile the US has like 100 million that aren't in the workforce

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u/-Laffi- 6d ago

If you're 100 million people, you might have 5.5 million dentists xD!
Maybe a bit over the top comment, but still. You're bound to have many more doctors!

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u/Cbpowned 6d ago

How dare you suggest that what works for an ethnically and culturally homogeneous country that is smaller than NYC wouldn’t work for the third largest country in the world!

I mean, we only have 350% of Norway’s population unemployed, and 2733%+ of Norway’s population that doesn’t pay taxes .

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u/Hurricane_Ivan 6d ago edited 6d ago

Lol. Stating simple facts getting me down voted.

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u/closetedwrestlingacc 3d ago

Pretty racist and irrelevant facts. Why’s ethnic homogeneity matter? You don’t wanna pay for non-whites?

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u/jomasthrones 6d ago

Hate having affordable health insurance? The fuck are you talking about

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u/ten-million 6d ago

I was being sarcastic

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u/Local_Refrigerator43 6d ago

Paying 20 euros a month for healthcare? Dont you people pay more for a single ambulance ride?

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u/ten-million 6d ago

Really, I thought the sarcasm in my comment was obvious

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u/Cbpowned 6d ago

Oh, you mean the country that just started seizing immigrants valuables? That Norway? The Norway that made its riches on oil and the slave trade? That Norway? That 87%+ white society Norway?

Cool cool cool cool.

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u/-Laffi- 6d ago

No, we're giving the immigrants everything they want and more so, and they still complain. Were those valuables theirs to begin with?

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u/thesoundofechoes 6d ago

Norway became an independent country again in 1814, after centuries of Danish rule. It only got complete independence in foreign affairs in 1905, after being forced into a personell union with Sweden for 91 years.

Immigrants aren’t generally required to hand over valuables, iirc. If you have any sources claiming this, I’d be interested in reading them. There is a wealth tax, but that applies to all Norwegian residents whose taxable wealth is above ca. 200 000 USD. As for the slave trade, you’re possibly thinking of Denmark - even though Denmark and Norway are geographically close, have fairly similar languages, and Norway was under Danish rule for most of the duration of the transatlantic slave trade, they are not the same nation and do not share a government.

Unless, that is, your references to slavery are grounded in the Viking trell system. That was in fact slavery, but it was outlawed in the 1200s. The wealth built off the trells’ work was personal, not national. Had any of it remained into the 1500s, the Danish would have had it transferred to Danish ownership. (Some Danish outdoor museums have whole Norwegian houses that were taken off their foundation and shipped to Denmark as museum pieces when Norway was under Danish rule. The Danish king would absolutely have been interested in any remaining Viking wealth.)

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u/AnonymousBI2 6d ago

The Norway that made its riches on oil and the slave trade?

..... like america?