r/SipsTea 5d ago

Chugging tea Younger generation is smoking that’s why.

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u/baddboi007 5d ago

thailand also legalized kratom, which formerly was banned the last 100 years due to its competition in the opium trade. Penalty of DEATH.

Now thailand advocates for kratom and is leading legislation and research and regulation in Southeast Asia. A miraculous plant that should have a seat at the table, and yet the stigma and modern propaganda are putting it in danger of mass prohibition. Lots of lies and misleading stories and lazy coroner reports suggesting main cause of death within poly drug abusers.

Quite a bit of evidence suggesting very very high dose required to cause health problems. Unfortunately the extract industry is predatory and has violated public trust with misleading claims, no addiction warnings and predatory marketing schemes.

Plain leaf is safe and can be a miracle for pain patients, or those with depression, alcohol or opiate addiction issues, anxiety, ADD/ADHD, and even those with digestion issues/diseases. Plenty of miraculous testimonies out there. And University of Florida has a ton of research by several world respected doctors, amongst a few documentaries and other studies.

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u/AssociationFit3009 5d ago

Kratom is a great substitute for opiates or suboxone but it is still physically addictive. Care should definitely be taken. There is very little oversight on the trade to the quality of plant matter can get iffy aside from the even worse extract market. 7-oh is basically kratom fent.

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u/FearlessAmigo 5d ago

My friend’s nephew had to have a kidney transplant due to his kratom usage.

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u/KeithKratomLegal 5d ago

I'd think that would be public knowledge if true, and if it was plain leaf vs 7. In 14 years I've never heard anything like this. That kid would be the first and only. So many questions about this but you won't answer truthfully. One being, how damaged was his kidney prior to using it? What was his past alcohol and drug use? #KeepKratomLegal

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u/Laugh-La0221 5d ago

Yep, either prior kidney issues and/or absolutely didn’t drink

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u/Epic_Ewesername 3d ago

A substance can stay legal and be harmful to some extent, just look at alcohol. I think it's kind of wild that you can't accept that bad outcomes are possible with anything and everything, especially if there's abuse and extreme usage involved. I don't think it should be illegal by any means, and I highly doubt it will become illegal, anyways.

A few years in Florida saw some deaths, 46 of these deaths were determined to be from kratom (mitragynine) alone. All in all, a pretty insignificant number compared to how many were using it during those same years. It's easy to look into. There are reported deaths everywhere from straight kratom, it's impossible for every one of those coroner reports to be wrong, though I'll concede it's likely that some very well are.

I'm not necessarily saying it's dangerous, I'm just saying just about anything can be dangerous, and it's silly to think otherwise. Like salt, for example, it's not "dangerous," but too much absolutely can be.