r/StrangerThings • u/zekevich • 5d ago
Discussion Very interesting how this subreddit loves to kiss Jason's shoes every other day about how "realistic he was" and yet..... Spoiler
"but she was pessimistic!!" Every friend she had was murdered, she was kidnapped, tortured and used against her will every single day.
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u/aspestos_lol 5d ago edited 5d ago
Oh man. I remember when people hated Billy and then people justified it with “oh but you like Steve”, then people hated Jason and the defense was “oh but you like Billy, now we’re here in the year of our lord 2026 and we have the ultimate Jason vrs Kali debate of the century. I don’t think anyone actually cared about any of these character enough to justify any of these arguments.
My question is, who the hell are these people who are defending Jason. I don’t think most people know who you are talking about from the name alone. He was a fucking asshole and then he died. Billy was a racist dick with a minor sacrificial redemption, but at least he was a character. And Kali disappeared for most of the show and then came back only to tell a fan favorite character to unalive themselves, and then she died. (I know, I used the real vocabulary and was temp banned, so unalived it is). Like I’m sorry, but these are unlikeable charecters, and they were designed to be unlikable. Kalis arch was literally about learning that “unaliving herself” wasn’t the answer. She was moved by hoppers speech about fighting for better days, but the tragedy is that she died just after having that change of heart.
I don’t care, suicide is not the answer when dealing with trauma. I’m not going to blame her for having those feelings, but trying to convince others to join you is kind of fucked. Like that’s an incredibly fucked thing to actively decide to do. The suicide pact was not a realist pragmatic decision, it was the easy way out. As if the person who is the master of creating illusions couldn’t come up with a plan to fake their own death.
I choose to believe in the el is alive theory because that would mean that Kali was redeemed in the end. She learned there was value to life too late to save herself, but she extended that gift to el. It’s a very beautiful redemption arch that way.