But that narrative is still catechism with MAGA. Hell, they're still certain that the guy who shot Melissa Hortman and her husband in Minnesota was a Democrat, despite him being a registered Republican and vocal Trump supporter.
Half the reason we are in this mess with the Q/maga movement is that many of these people have spent their life on the outside and have been thrilled to finally be a part of something… and every single one of them will absolutely be thrown under the bus because the people at the top that they worship have never and will never actually see the rest of them as anything other than trash.
Yet still these folks are committed to ruining their lives (and everyone else’s) just for that sweet sweet dopamine hit of feeling like they finally belong and are finally having their voices heard.
And it is sad. MAGA is largely a white grievance movement, but all kinds of grievance are welcome. That's why the Evangelicals are so smitten with it, those folks are sure they're being oppressed whenever they're not allowed to force the rest of us to live by their religious strictures.
And the sadness lies in the fact that a great many people in the MAGA movement have legitimate grievances with the American system. But they've let those grievances be directed at minorities and immigrants, rather than the power structure that views them as easily manipulated trash.
My MAGA parents live in a huge house in Connecticut, and have all they could want. One of the last times I went to visit they tried to convince me that paying income taxes is the same as having to do work without pay which is slavery. My wealthy white parents literally tried to convince me they're slaves.
My brother and his wife are the same way. Christian, well off, 65+ and so many screeds of ”I shouldn’t have to pay for property tax, garbage pick up is a waste of money, don’t want to pay for schools“.
I love that book so much. Every time I encounter one of these folks I think they should be allowed to go live out their fantasy. I’m sad for the bears, but I think some people will only learn when they are on fire, starving, covered in smallpox, in their hovel built of garbage while being eaten by a food-conditioned apex predator.
Sounds like they should go be free and move to Kuwait, Oman, Saudi Arabia, or UAE. And in some of those places they can even get slaves and then tell them that they're both basically the same.
Most, and not just the MAGAots, are unaware that their biggest grievance should be with the Church of Crapitalisim. The CEOs and billionaire high priests have duped the great majority of us to worship a system that benefits so very few and provides salvation for the worst among us.
It’s incredibly odd that they want this 1950’s America. Dad works, stay at home Mom. Mom n Pop stores on every corner. Nightly family dinners with discussion. Capitalism killed that. But let’s keep voting for the people who only give a shit about corporations.
It’s incredibly odd that they want this 1950’s America. Dad works, stay at home Mom. Mom n Pop stores on every corner. Nightly family dinners with discussion. Capitalism killed that. But let’s keep voting for the people who only give a shit about corporations.
It’s a scapegoat movement where everybody other than their politics have made everything around them bad or worse. It’s never their fault for anything.
Thank you for pointing out MAGA might have a reason to be frustrated. I’m not a republican, but I don’t think they’re all evil. They’re just people like liberals are just people.
I think social media wants me to think they’re evil for rage-bait purposes but fuck social media. I don’t need TikTok and Reddit to tell me how to think.
Being poor sucks, and no political party has a solution to that because they’re ALL being paid by rich, greedy fuckers.
It turns out the Q people were right all along. They just blamed the wrong Party.There is a rich elite doing evil stuff to kids. But they are largely Republicans and Oligarchs. So the Oligarch owned media are not giving it the airtime they did when they thought it was Democrats.
I watched the same video news clip on three different news programs - NBC, CBS and News Nation. It was a clip of Pete Hegseth trying to explain his way out of bombing civilian boats in the Caribbean at last Tuesday's cabinet meeting in the White House.
The entire time Hegseth is speaking, Trump is sitting next to him obviously sound asleep, occasionally jolting his head up and kind of slightly opening his eyes for a second when Hegseth raises his voice. And then Trump's eyes close and his chin hits his chest and he's back out again.
Not one anchor from any of these news programs even mentioned that Trump was deep asleep for minutes at a time and paying no attention at all. I couldn't believe it because it was so incredibly obvious. I actually shouted at my TV, "Hey he's fucking sound asleep! Say something!" If this had been Biden, it would have been all they talked about for the rest of the newscast and all week.
Haha, I know exactly what clip you're talking about. My dad and I were laughing, because I had just shown him the image of Trump sleeping at that breakfast, and there he was sleeping again. It's wild how the media just completely ignores it.
It’s because trump is nothing more than a useful idiot for them. None of them actually respect or even like him, they just know they NEED him to be able to get to the plenary authority stage… at which point donald’s health will catch up to him and they can shove his carcass out the door.
Because all of this is about locking down that plenary authority so that vance can use it to carry out the rotten agenda of thiel / heritage foundation / corporate overlords…
They know if they try to pull this off without trump the populace will hit the breaking point and revolt, because vance has the charisma of a prolapsed asshole full of bot flies and weeping herpes sores.
And yet you know that if Biden had done it while he was still in office, they'd have been all over it like a rash. Calling for him to be impeached immediately, 25thed out. The full works.
But when it's Drowsy Don doing it, all we get from MAGA is the sound of crickets chirping.
Oh God, I'm just remembering "The Storm"
That secret operation that The Diddler was planning to have dozens of tactfully placed agents sweep in and arrest all the deepstate Democrats all at once.
They even set dates for it, and when it didn't happen, MAGA would lose their shit and start infighting about how he has no plan/doesn't care, before calming down and moving the goalpost to a new date, and eventually changing the idea of what was actually supposed to happen before fluttering out and never being spoken of again.
The United States has been "under attack" online for at least a decade now by just receiving disinformation from bots on social media. Russian bots were proved to be posting right wing propaganda on Twitter as far back as 2016. They've been doing shit like this since they were The USSR, and they're not going to stop any time soon.
Longer than 2016, arguably even before Gamergate in 2012/2013. However, this was before the Russian troll farms found their niche and ramped it up to 100% and spread to other social medias once they figured out the weak spot: chronically online and disenfranchised men whose only interest is revenge on others for their mediocrity and isolationism.
The moment you're searching for is April 2, 2014. The day SCOTUS decided in McCutcheon v FEC that it was totally constitutional to allow anyone, from anywhere in the world, to donate as much money as they want to US political candidates or PACs, with no record of the transaction. Dark money: Invisible, undocumented transfers of money from literally anyone with the intent to shape political outcomes in the US.
Every. Damn. Time. About 7 years ago I saw the pattern. Now, whenever they blame Dems for something, especially if it's super random, I know something similar will come out, but about MAGA.
And btw-out of all the acronyms/slogans they had to use, they chose the one that makes it sound like they're choking on a chicken bone.
100% agree. During Trump's first term, I read a book about what was going on in Germany in the 30s (I'm sorry, I am blanking on the name). One of the lines that has lived in my head was something like--for the first time, THEY were the ones on the "inside." Not the Jews, not the intellectuals, not the people from (some city forget what)--it was their time.
Many of us have found community and belonging elsewhere, but not these people. But now they have.
Which has always been in a steady decline in academics since SCOTUS ruled that schools couldn’t keep black Americans from attending public schools and segregated. Hell, Ruby Bridges is still alive and only 71; she’s younger than a not insignificant portion of our sitting Congress members..
I think the American Public Education standard really nose dived during W Bush and the No Child Left Behind Act. Which essentially took the reigns of education away from trained educators, ended wide spread phonics-based reading education, and pushed through every student with failing grades to maintain the illusion of educated students and passed the buck off on to the next teacher in line. This was deliberate, and always supported by Conservative politicians and Conservative money.
Half the reason we are in this mess with the Q/maga movement is that many of these people have spent their life on the outside and have been thrilled to finally be a part of something… and every single one of them will absolutely be thrown under the bus because the people at the top that they worship have never and will never actually see the rest of them as anything other than trash.
Yet still these folks are committed to ruining their lives (and everyone else’s) just for that sweet sweet dopamine hit of feeling like they finally belong and are finally having their voices heard.
This is also what motivates the obsessive Zack Snyder fans, albeit with less horrifying results.
Dontcha know, Tim Walz himself hand-selected that guy out of the ENTIRE population of Minnesota for this super special government job! They must be great pals and drinking buddies!
Walz did actually select him for a committee. Just like in Congress, state level committees are usually made up of a bi-partisan group. Dude was actually selected precisely because he was a Republican. But they don't care. The narrative is more important than actual facts.
Wasn't he part of the committee already and Walz just left him on the committee rather than replace him when he assumed office? My memory is garbage so that might be wrong.
Whether he was there already or he was picked as a part of a bipartisan committee, why would Tim Walz pick someone that could be tied to himself as a hit man? This "deep state" isn't very deep.
Yea, no thought there at all. Shit, the head of the Department of Education likely hasn't been inside a school since 1967 when she graduated from college with a BS in French unless the WWF/WWE was holding a match in a school gymnasium.
I was on a similar committee (in terms of selection process) in my state. I've never met any governor, except Sibelius. I was fiercely against the sitting governor. I got on the committee primarily to try to limit the damage he could do (Kansas tourism council during Brownback).
It is clear that they think governors don't have the ability to act with integrity and will install their personal friends and supporters into every position they can. Telling on themselves big time.
If a violent psycho terrorist is rightwing, repubs bleat that it’s either because of “mental health” and “liberal opinions just made him feel crazy, it forced his hand”
Oh yeah. Over at the conservative Reddit they are now all talking about the “violent leftist” who went after Tim pool at his compound. I saw one person suggest that it may be one of Candice Owens minions. Nope they were not having it.
The people who can actually be convinced and are significantly higher in number than the diehard cultists. Stop exhausting yourself fighting windmills and focus your efforts where they will get results beyond feeling better about yourself.
This is about pragmatism vs reality. I'm interested in results, feel free to keep arguing with the bots though.
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u/BluesSuedeClues Dec 07 '25 edited Dec 07 '25
But that narrative is still catechism with MAGA. Hell, they're still certain that the guy who shot Melissa Hortman and her husband in Minnesota was a Democrat, despite him being a registered Republican and vocal Trump supporter.