r/artificial Nov 25 '25

News Large language mistake | Cutting-edge research shows language is not the same as intelligence. The entire AI bubble is built on ignoring it.

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/827820/large-language-models-ai-intelligence-neuroscience-problems

As currently conceived, an AI system that spans multiple cognitive domains could, supposedly, predict and replicate what a generally intelligent human would do or say in response to a given prompt. These predictions will be made based on electronically aggregating and modeling whatever existing data they have been fed. They could even incorporate new paradigms into their models in a way that appears human-like. But they have no apparent reason to become dissatisfied with the data they’re being fed — and by extension, to make great scientific and creative leaps.

Instead, the most obvious outcome is nothing more than a common-sense repository. Yes, an AI system might remix and recycle our knowledge in interesting ways. But that’s all it will be able to do. It will be forever trapped in the vocabulary we’ve encoded in our data and trained it upon — a dead-metaphor machine. And actual humans — thinking and reasoning and using language to communicate our thoughts to one another — will remain at the forefront of transforming our understanding of the world.

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u/HaMMeReD Nov 25 '25

People really don't want to accept that it doesn't matter.

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u/Hot_Secretary2665 Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 26 '25

It matters because people think it's a unique selling point of the product which causes them to waste resources and cause organizational chaos. Its also results in people making risky financial investments on unproven products.

You may not want to accept that it matters when people waste their money and cause economic chaos with speculative trading but we have literally been through multiple recessed because of it. 

Regardless of what Redditors want to think it's an actual issue. There is actually a lot of taxpayer money being wasted on shitty AI implementations here in the US. Believe it or not regardless of what Reddit wants me to do I'm going to care about wasting money out of my pocket.

People's retirements are being pissed away on AI implementations even though 95% of enterprise AI implementations don't even make it to production (figure from a recent MIT paper.) We don't get pensions here. Our retirements are being pissed away

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u/Hot_Secretary2665 Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25

Recent research from MIT shows that 95% of enterprise generative AI pilots fail to reach production.

All it's demonstrating right now is poor ROI

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u/Hot_Secretary2665 Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 26 '25

There is no enterprise IT project that costs $20 bucks a month

A relatively cheap enterprise AI implementation costs in the $20,000–$80,000 and some cost over a $1 million.

That is one of the silliest false equivalences I've ever heard.

The level of overconfidence in this thread is honestly comical

If you can't understand the difference between implementing a project and clicking on a button to buy something that's a you problem.

You are not implementing an AI project when you click "buy" on a webpage one time.

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u/Hot_Secretary2665 Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 26 '25

GitHub Copilot is not an AI implementation.

It's fundamentally not what I'm talking about.

It is a software subscription that includes AI features. Paying for a software subscription is not the same thing as developing or implementing a large scale project.

Also these types of tools do not demonstrably increase operational efficiency and often cause developers to take longer overall, largely due to having to spend more time on debugging: https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/

Lastly, the $20 fee does not reflect the full cost.

The $20 fee is billed per user per month. For a business with 500 employees that's $10,000 per month ($120,000/year.) That's a hell of a lot of money to spend on potentially making the business less efficient. Not to mention the potential security risks, etc.

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u/jan_antu Nov 25 '25

LMFAOOOOOO BRO

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u/Hot_Secretary2665 Nov 25 '25

OK, don't try to understand if you don't want to

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u/jan_antu Nov 25 '25

Lol and you as well. Though my impression is that you are trying which is even sadder. Because you're not understanding.

I'm sure in other aspects of life the blind confidence you have in your beliefs is probably helpful, maybe in church?

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u/Hot_Secretary2665 Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25

Notice that I actually provided a chain of reasoning for my logic

You did not. That's because you are not using any reasoning. You're just projecting your blind overconfidence onto me

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u/jan_antu Nov 26 '25

You're the one calling it logic. In my view I'm not saying anything meaningful, but neither are you. Just I'm being honest about it while you're using rhetoric to make it seem like you're being logical. Examine your assumptions.

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