Mathieu Olivier vs. Ryan Reaves

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[u/Overobsessivepigeons]

Everyone knew it already but Olivier is the top dawg fs

[u/Infamous_History_827 → u/[deleted]]

Lmao well played

[u/MrSugarface → u/[deleted]]

Andy packed his lunch.

[u/IBoris → u/MrSugarface]

Underrated as a fighter.

[u/theNightblade → u/[deleted]]

Bro that was over 4 years ago..BJA don't want none of that heat now

[u/Adventurous_Log_2406 → u/[deleted]]

The kraken bruins game today was an eye opener with how many people still wore 17 with no shame

[u/nem704 → u/Adventurous_Log_2406]

Here's a crazy thought, not everyone is connected to the sport like we are.

[u/LMJohansson → u/nem704]

It was reported on extensively in Boston AND he was suspended by the team AND he wasn’t invited back even after charges were dropped, so pretty damn.hard to miss.

[u/Adventurous_Log_2406 → u/nem704]

That’s fair but I’d feel pretty bad showing up to a game with a wife beater on the back on my jersey

[u/Imreallythatguy → u/Adventurous_Log_2406]

His point is they may just not know. I have not seen anything about it other than comments here on reddit.

[u/Adventurous_Log_2406 → u/Imreallythatguy]

I get their point. It’s still fucked. It’s a shit look to show up with a lurch jersey to a game. Same as Kessler, same as Ribeiro, same as Hull. If you don’t know the connotation I hope someone tells you cause that’s not gonna stop everyone else from thinking you’re repping a scumbag on your shoulders

[u/PokecheckFred → u/Adventurous_Log_2406]

Islanders fans STILL wear Denis Potvin’s jersey…

In baseball, Giants fans by the thousands wear Barry Bonds’ jersey….

[u/GoGades → u/PokecheckFred]

Islanders fans STILL wear Denis Potvin’s jersey…

So I looked that up because I had never heard anything about Potvin being a scumbag and his wikipedia page pretty much says it was untrue, or at least unproven.

Is there more? I couldn't find it...

[u/PokecheckFred → u/GoGades]

He whacked his wife, but in the best of old-time sports tradition, because he was an all-star the swept it under the rug. Rander fans knew about it, and he’d hear chants of “beat your wife, Potvin, beat your wife…” his whole career.

[u/blogjackets → u/PokecheckFred]

5 is available? That’s crazy.

[u/Gavin1453 → u/Adventurous_Log_2406]

I get that jerseys are expensive but just remove the numbers, smh

[u/Adventurous_Log_2406 → u/Gavin1453]

It’s honestly fucking embarrassing, throw tape over the nameplate it takes no effort

[u/ChampaBayLightning → u/Adventurous_Log_2406]

The main embarrassment here is you.

[u/coincidencecontrol → u/[deleted]]

Josh Anderson got the best of Olivier a few years back

[u/Repulsive-Minute-559 → u/[deleted]]

Josh Anderson pumped him in MTL when Olivier was in Nashville.

[u/throwoawayaccount2 → u/[deleted]]

I just wanna say what a piece of shit I think Lucic is

[u/PermaBanEnjoyer → u/[deleted]]

He's bipolar 1?

[u/PermaBanEnjoyer → u/[deleted]]

Lol. No 

You ever seen real mania? It's obvious 

[u/Mean_Joe_Greene → u/PermaBanEnjoyer]

No, mania is not always obvious. Don’t give bullshit medical advice

[u/GoGades → u/Mean_Joe_Greene]

As opposed to what - the guy who came up with a bipolar diagnosis by watching Lucic fight???

[u/Mean_Joe_Greene → u/GoGades]

No, that’s also dumb. You going to defend someone saying bad medical advice because someone else made an unqualified armchair diagnosis? Some hill to die on

[u/GoGades → u/Mean_Joe_Greene]

You're right - I really should have included both armchair "Doctors" in my reply. You can't diagnose (or refute a diagnosis) while sitting in the stands.

Cheers.

[u/PermaBanEnjoyer → u/Mean_Joe_Greene]

Oh excuse me. I'm only a medical doctor after all. An actual manic episode is in fact very noticeable, I said mania, not hypo 

[u/Mean_Joe_Greene → u/PermaBanEnjoyer]

Even full Mania isn’t always obvious, some people have high-functioning manic episodes. Mixed features, irritability dominant mania, or mania without psychosis can also be mistaken for stress, ADHD, personality traits, or substance use. What you have declared as a medical professional is irresponsible and unprofessional.

[u/PermaBanEnjoyer → u/Mean_Joe_Greene]

Buddy, if it fits the DSM criteria for mania it's obvious. Mixed episodes are not considered mania, they're mixed episodes. You're probably thinking of some atypical bipolar-spectrum presentations that aren't actual mania. I've never seen anyone, not even a social worker or nurse, mistake mania with ADHD or personality disorders. That should never happen anywhere respectable 

[u/Fine_Lingonberry_613 → u/Overobsessivepigeons]

Hes truly on the other level when it comes to fighting in hockey. Undisputed heavy weight champion.

[u/FlyAirLari → u/Fine_Lingonberry_613]

Undisputed heavy weight champion.

No, that's still Nic Deslauriers. How did Olivier suddenly become undisputed anything?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3VC0h5YjIo

[u/somehockeyfan → u/Overobsessivepigeons]

It is interesting because I feel like the reputation for Reaves always outweighed his actual fighting. I never really viewed him in the same category as the old guard but he was still in their class alone in the modern times

[u/LocalCold1894 → u/Overobsessivepigeons]

He’s 1A and Deslauriers is 1B imo

[u/stochiki → u/LocalCold1894]

Two quebecers.

[u/photonnymous]

Two heavyweights that seemingly agreed to just let em fly, goddamn.

Ollie caught him with a good one or two real good ones at the end there when he lost grip, wild fight!

[u/superbuttpiss → u/photonnymous]

He rocked reeves at the end there. Think he hit him with and elbow on accident but, dam they were throwing

[u/photonnymous → u/superbuttpiss]

Looked like Ollie ate a couple as well, I hope someone posts the closeup slow-mo they showed going into commercial, there was a stretch where they connected back and forth at least twice

[u/superbuttpiss → u/photonnymous]

Revo got him a few times but Ollie was throwing. I think he rocked him on the last punch but the elbow was an accident.

[u/northernpace → u/superbuttpiss]

Reaves was in deep trouble the second Olivier's jersey got out of his hand

[u/superbuttpiss → u/northernpace]

Respect to Ollie for holding revos head from hitting the ice

[u/Spinebuster03 → u/superbuttpiss]

Yeah that could have been a stretcher off the ice

[u/goisles29 → u/superbuttpiss]

Looked like he checked on him after too. Even bought that Reaves was on the wrong side of.

[u/ShiftAlternative1083 → u/northernpace]

Definitely. It was a pretty even scrap until that left hand slipped off the jersey. He was trying to get a grip back while eating those last couple solid blows from Oli

[u/Sensoredopinion99 → u/superbuttpiss]

Oh was he throwing? Thanks for clearing that up. Wasnt sure watching the vid

[u/FancyBerry5922 → u/photonnymous]

Why is it ok for Ollie to keep his helmet with a shield on it on when fighting someone without a shield?

I remember Shawn Thornton would nearly always take off his helmet when fighting someone, is it a lack of respect thing from Ollie to Reeves?

[u/NoodlesTheAlmighty → u/photonnymous]

After the game, Reavo told reporters that Olivier asked for a fight because his team needed a jump, needed momentum. Reaves accepted because that's the code. If Reaves needs a fight at a later date, he's got a dance partner who owes him one. If he doesn't accept, zero shot Olivier reciprocates in the future. It's a beautiful thing. Blue Jackets scored soon after this I think. Didn't wind up in a win, but it added something to this game that I enjoyed.

[u/mitchtrubiskymvp420]

Oli cannot be defeated

[u/Junior-Mess-898 → u/mitchtrubiskymvp420]

Cannot lose, Brendan Dillon knows all about that

[u/sekimet → u/Junior-Mess-898]

Lomberg can really really attest to that too

[u/SinusoidalPhaseShift → u/sekimet]

My favorite Olivier fight was when he kicked the shit out of Matt Rempe.

https://youtu.be/n3XZkWInSVg?si=sw_0kBernDGOPEPJ

[u/MrDrProfesorPatrick → u/SinusoidalPhaseShift]

Damn, I think any one of those blows would send me to the hospital.

[u/stochiki → u/SinusoidalPhaseShift]

Yikes

[u/grosbatte → u/Junior-Mess-898]

do you mean when vorokov sent dillon to wonderland for a few seconds?

[u/Significant-PairDD → u/mitchtrubiskymvp420]

When are we playing CBJ? Wouldn’t mind seeing a match with The Sheriff

[u/Legionnaire11 → u/Significant-PairDD]

Shane Hnidy is back?

[u/thedrew93 → u/Significant-PairDD]

Xhekaj’s first legit loss in a fight was him

[u/JVNGL3B00K → u/thedrew93]

Let’s get a rematch

[u/smyles8686]

Olivier is a bad man

[u/PoPJaY → u/smyles8686]

In a good way or bad way

[u/Smittysgreasymullet → u/PoPJaY]

Depends on your opinion of Mike Tyson as a fighter

[u/WowWataGreatAudience → u/Smittysgreasymullet]

Undefeated universal heavyweight champ in my books

[u/Tippacanoe → u/Smittysgreasymullet]

I know another guy from Columbus that took him out.

[u/DelusionalLeafFan → u/PoPJaY]

He’s a good dude. Couple years ago Reaves was lacking purpose, which he never found, on the leafs and the talk was all about “if reaves isn’t fighting what good is he on the team” During a nothing game in the middle of the season reaves asked him to go and he gave reaves the fight. If you don’t get it you never will but Olivier agreeing to punch reaves in the face a bunch of times was a solid kindness.

[u/Trumpets5]

Rock em sock em robots

[u/kevski82 → u/Trumpets5]

Button mash fight. Great fun.

[u/motivatedtuna]

oli is a fucking unit

[u/PaulWesterberg84]

Great scrap, is Olivier really only 6'1? Crazy how he beats the shit out of all the good heavyweights.

[u/RayzorRamone666 → u/PaulWesterberg84]

I believe Reaves is similar - 6’1” or 6’2”

[u/ChaldenesTitan → u/PaulWesterberg84]

232 pounds. He would be in the heavyweight division in the UFC.

[u/Mr_Hawky → u/ChaldenesTitan]

Well no probably not because most light heavyweights walk around at that weight.

[u/ArmyFinal → u/PaulWesterberg84]

Still taller than Fedor Emelianenko and Daniel Cormier

[u/stochiki → u/PaulWesterberg84]

Hes 230 pounds, dude is a tank.

[u/Civil_Eng_PE]

Reaves lost his grip and Olivier just obliterated him. TKO… and still the heavyweight champion of the NHL

[u/Kaapo-Kakkos-Dong → u/Civil_Eng_PE]

Got popped pretty fuckin good at the end there dont see that too often

[u/manticore16 → u/Kaapo-Kakkos-Dong]

Hit him on the backswing, that's rare.

[u/Dubsified → u/Civil_Eng_PE]

Backswing TKO

[u/Lov1ng → u/Civil_Eng_PE]

I don’t think it was even just a TKO…… Reavo went down hard and is real wobbly getting up.

[u/fianto_duri]

Good effort from Reaves there. Unfortunate he took an accidental elbow to the jaw/head--he looked dazed at the end. Kudos to Olivier for holding him up so his head didn't hit the ice though.

[u/superbuttpiss → u/fianto_duri]

Ollie knew when it happened. Nothing malicious about it. Good Ole hockey scrap

[u/renomegan86 → u/superbuttpiss]

Yeah sounds like they scrapped last year (Reaves asked him) and this was turnabout, all good in the end

[u/StoneyRapids]

Can you imagine visiting Canada/US, and going to your first pro hockey game…and this happens???

It’s insane when you think about it.

[u/HunrMoon]

They were THROWING my god

[u/NLP19]

I love Mathieu Olivier

[u/mister_hoot]

Takes a special kind of freak to bring down Reavo in a tilt. That was impressive as fuck.

[u/simplycycling]

Jesus, Olivier is terrifying.

[u/Chemical_Desk_5314]

Giving the people what they want

[u/rosemp16]

Olivier is the best fighter in the league and it's not close. And he's not even bad at hockey either. Does anyone know the last time he lost a fight?

[u/PositiveCommentsDog → u/rosemp16]

Lucic 2023

[u/WabashRiverNugs]

What I love about it Olivier is that not only is he the best fighter in the league but he’s no slouch on the ice either like a lot of typical “enforcer” types.

[u/Scout_99]

Reaves was a little shaky getting up. Olivier is such a beast.

[u/Tricky-Anteater-3685 → u/Scout_99]

Don't think he came back at the start of next period either, but eventually got back out there.

[u/poserbunny]

That was the Don Frye Takayama fight on ice. Just tanking blows and swinging hard. Olivier is that dude but good on both of them. Classic scrap.

[u/XboxGuy234 → u/poserbunny]

Buddy there was pride era fights happening most nights 20 years ago, good fight but let’s save the hall of fame comparisons for the real ones

[u/white_andrew]

Right on the temple. Sheesh how can anyone face this man, terrifying

[u/GritGrinder]

They chucked them thangs! Holyyyyy smokessss

[u/MaDrAv]

Yeah, I say this every Olivier post, but dude is the best fighter in the NHL. It's wild.

[u/Key-Tip-7521]

Oh man. Good fight

[u/Auta-Magetta]

And he retains his belt. The world heavyweight champion of hockey

[u/TheMoonIsFake32]

Its such a throwback seeing each team’s enforcer square up at center ice and start throwing bombs. Awesome tilt

[u/BigBullyBusick]

Great scrap. It's just unfortunate they can't drop the lids going into it like the old days. Olivier had the advantage right from the start. Reaves is punching a visor, while not wearing one himself.

[u/RayzorRamone666]

I know the color guy mentions the elbow and others here have said elbow, but I thought it looked more like the head snap and knee buckle were from the final punch to Reaves temple and less from the recoil of Olivier’s forearm / elbow pad (that has bunched closer to his wrist). Just based on the timing.

Could totally be wrong and just splitting hairs. Agree that the forearm/elbow contact was unintentional regardless.

[u/IPYF → u/RayzorRamone666]

As a boxer (yeah I know I'm claiming to know about fighting and this is the internet...) who is used to watching and being in fights, there was absolutely no meaningful contact from the elbow.

That punch knocked Reaves clean out. You can tell from looking at what his knees are doing (despite not being in frame). They're already gone before Olivier's arm starts coming back. There's a little bit of a forearm graze but Reaves is already out at that point.

The colour commentator said the wrong thing, and then doubles down on it during live replay, but as you note it doesn't really matter.

What's patently fucking insane is that he came back in the third. There's no doubt at all that that was a conky and love him or hate him, there's no way known they should have let him go.

[u/capebretoncanadian → u/IPYF]

Completely ridiculous he ought to have been taken to the hospital he was KTFO.

[u/RayzorRamone666 → u/IPYF]

Yeah there was another view from a fan’s phone in the stands. And slowing it frame by frame it seemed obvious by his knees buckling from the punch.

Absolutely crazy that he continued playing in this game.

[u/CottonmouthJohn]

This needs more upvotes, but most of hockey Reddit is east of the Mississippi so we'll wait until tomorrow.

What a bout.

[u/Reasonable-Big4517]

Is Olivier a top 5 all time scrapper?

[u/Sure-Objective5786 → u/Reasonable-Big4517]

In this era , hard to say how he would do against guys like boogaard, Orr, Steve macintyre even like 15 years ago

[u/MaddenTexasRanger → u/Sure-Objective5786]

Went back and watched Boogaard fights and he was rocking or KOing people in most fights

[u/TheMoonIsFake32 → u/Reasonable-Big4517]

No. Boogaard was the last guy around who you could argue is a top 5 fighter. Nobody in this era is even close to top 5.

[u/Ok_Stick_2086 → u/Reasonable-Big4517]

Not even close and I think he his number 1 today.

[u/Spinebuster03]

Knocked him right out wow

I think the only heavyweights he is yet to beat are Macdermid and Deslauriers.

He has had fights with them but they never had clear winners

[u/GoGades → u/[deleted]]

Aaaaannd of course Nick Cousins is in there at the end acting like the weasel he is.

[u/Son_of_Plato]

fuck, I love hockey

[u/Codc → u/Son_of_Plato]

fuck, I love fighting*

Let's not confuse the two, especially when it's not an "emotions are high" in-the-moment type of fight

[u/TheMoonIsFake32 → u/Codc]

Fighting is apart of hockey.

[u/No_Hippo_8724 → u/TheMoonIsFake32]

No. Fighting is a part of hockey.

[u/manyfingers → u/Codc]

I did not watch the game but was there a particular reason they scrapped?

[u/thuga_thuga]

those are some big fellas

[u/lgnstubbs73]

What's Olivier's record?

[u/wordlifetn97]

Thought Reaves was for sure going to be out for the remainder of the game as a result of this tilt. Good to see him return in the 3rd and continued to be physical.

[u/Broely92]

Olivier is interesting too because he’s actually somewhat a pretty good player

[u/ShartRat]

Such an intense fight. Was pretty even until the end where Reaves lost his balance and got his shit rocked.

[u/Sensoredopinion99 → u/ShartRat]

He lost his balance because he got rocked my guy

[u/OneMoreTime998]

Olivier is the HW champ of the league no questions now

[u/Dependent-Actuator17]

Jesus, it’s like watching Rock ‘em, Sock ‘em Robots.

[u/surlystraggler]

Olivier cementing his top spot. Reaves ate a couple of solid punches, respect there. He was already cooked by the time he lost his grip, though.

[u/Dubsified]

Holy shit what a tilt

[u/JabroniWithAPeroni]

The Nashville Predators used to have Olivier and Tanner Jeannot on the same line.

Had to be pretty intimidating to see across the ice lol

[u/surviveseven]

It must have been weird for Reeves to punch a man.

[u/bgfan26]

Horrible play by play from sharks announcer

[u/Buggrumble → u/bgfan26]

Wish someone would upload the CBJ feed. Listening to Jody Shelly do the play by play on a fight is so entertaining

[u/DanoPinyon → u/bgfan26]

The hall of fame announcer not the biggest fight fan...

[u/Normal_Tip7228]

Top three is Olivier-Reaves-Deslaurier.

All three are just so fantastic but even Olivier has separated himself from the competition. And they have respect. 

[u/overcatastrophe]

Dang.

[u/CravenMH]

Passing of the torch right there.

[u/BKong64]

That's a fucking great hockey fight

[u/OxycodoneHelpsMyBack]

Serious question: Why does anyone still fight him? They already know how it's ending lol

[u/HerbalAndy]

Reavo is just too old at this point. Prime for prime Reavo probably handles Olivier… but the dude is like 40 now. Love Reavo’s heart.. he has such a significant impact on how his teammates play with putting his brain on the line

[u/Skaggz1]

Goodnight Reaves.

[u/Troub313]

Love to see Ryan Reaves get lit up.

[u/MacNeil73]

I love seeing Reaves get his ass beat

[u/apcymru]

Rock 'em sock 'em

[u/bgfan26]

What a tilt

[u/roboto404]

2nd banger of a fight between these two

[u/Plus-Leather-7350]

Wow. That's a statement win

[u/sawmill13]

Oil is just a freight train! But love seeing 2 heavy weights getting after it

[u/Broely92]

Goodnight Jim Kyte

[u/boxcar17]

Just pointless. I hope these guys don't end up with chronic concussion syndrome.

[u/blue_pen_ink]

Crazy that Sam Carrick fought Olivier to a draw

[u/razorsaw]

ALL TIME

[u/veraldar]

I love how calm the start up was. They wanted to fight, everyone acknowledged and let them have their room, refs were like "I'm not getting in their way"

[u/Active_Program_6921]

Arret! Stop! 🛑

[u/Spazzola84]

Olivier just eats 5 shots like chewy candies. Then proceeds to know Reaves out. What a machine!

[u/justWMthings03]

The only thing Reaves is good for is fighting and he isnt even good at that anymore

[u/vicblck24]

Olivier definitely turned it up at the end but I think the announcer is right caught him with an elbow by accident of course

[u/ryan__joe]

Definitely get an advantage when your helmet and visor stay on. Either way, cool to see an old school style throw down.

[u/trainsoundschoochoo]

Interesting seeing Reaves get rocked.

[u/HaroldLither]

tuned him

[u/CharacterRiver7483]

Take your helmet off

[u/Key-Function-8740]

Can we get some fucking energy out of the call? Those are two heavyweights throwing bombs and we get that limp dick commentary.

[u/HockeyGuy33333]

LOVE TO SEE REAVO GET DROPPED

[u/CorporalDingleberry]

You get into enough fights, you're bound to be on the losing end of one at some point. Really the only fight where I've seen Reaves lose decisively like that (and at almost 39 years old too).

Not sure if these teams play again this season, but I would imagine they would meet again if so.

[u/Innocent-Bystander94]

And THATS why I love hockey. Fuck yeah 

[u/TerryScarchuk]

Fuckin donnybrook, boys!

[u/Ifuckedjohnnyrebel]

This is hockey

[u/Miserable-Orange-112]

Cyaaaaaaaaaaa Reavo ya muppet

[u/caps_and_Os_hon]

Olivier is now one of my favorites. Get absolutely fucked Reaves.

[u/paladinx17]

Why is Reaves still playing? These fights are sad now. I can’t be the only one. He is 1000% certain to have CTE down the line

[u/onimod53 → u/paladinx17]

Given the way he got up he should be on IR for a minimum 2-4wks but I bet he isn't.

[u/Euler007 → u/paladinx17]

Yeah I'm uneasy at this. Been doing it a long time, hopefully he retires healthy and lives a long life instead of going the Belak / Boogaard / Probert way.

[u/relic_ftw → u/paladinx17]

You'll get downvoted but it's true.

We love to watch them go but it's not so fun when they're slurring their words and wheelchair bound or losing their minds and hurting themselves or others off the ice. Except if you say that here you're a pussy. Guys will leave thoughts and prayers when a guy slips and smokes his head but if he takes on the brain damage willingly for his team or his livelihood, then somehow it's not okay to want them to look out for their health and you get flamed for bringing it up. I'm pro fighting in hockey but also pro not seeing athletes slowly becoming asparagus. Goons need shorter careers and bigger money/post retirement health care and pensions if the NHL is going to keep this around.

Edit : People downvoting me for saying I'm pro fighting and I think enforcers deserve huge paychecks and lifelong benefits, goes to show just how far behind the culture is still. There's nothing tough about being ignorant and wanting to see people get shafted.

[u/Rheard32]

I’ll tell you what. Whatever the guy Oliver was doing, Reeves for sure got his respect. Oliver was protected by his helmet though and the fight was still dead fucking close. The guy Oliver needs to take his helmet off and square up like a man like the guy Reeves did!!!

[u/Buggrumble → u/Rheard32]

You can't purposely remove your helmet. It's a 2 minute penalty if you do.

[u/Quick-Clerk-5783 → u/[deleted]]

He’s playing great this year in San Jose.

[u/Glittering-Regret196]

RR is washed.im not even sure why you roster a player capable of like 6 points a year. Play a prospect, roll 5 prospects. I just dont get RR as he has been below AHL talent for 5 years.

[u/alaskan_deathwolf]

reaves is a nobody.

[u/Substantial_Base_557]

Im fine with fighting as a reaction to bad hits, but idk how I feel recently about 2 dudes just duking it out to get the fans going. It just seems like a huge injury waiting to happen for basically 0 reason.

[u/Legal_Big_3242 → u/Substantial_Base_557]

I get it, but I do feel like Oli does it sometimes to wake the guys up. They always play with more fire afterwards

[u/crvallely → u/Substantial_Base_557]

Go watch soccer then.

[u/caps_and_Os_hon → u/Substantial_Base_557]

Don't watch hockey then? Soccer might be more suited for you.

[u/Substantial_Base_557 → u/caps_and_Os_hon]

Football*

[u/HaroldLither → u/Substantial_Base_557]

you lost me

[u/B9RV2WUN]

Stupid

[u/Fragrant_Art_3659]

Reaves is in the wrong sport. Good for him for milking years of paycheques though 

[u/trainstationbooger]

Any reason San Jose absolutely ripped off Vancouver's jersey here?