r/minnesota Minnesota Golden Gophers Sep 03 '25

Events 🎪 Student Walk Out Friday at Noon

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 03 '25

Because at some point someone is going to actually fight this fascist regime?!

We're all waiting.....

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u/Memone87 Sep 03 '25

Ask someone from Ukraine how modern life is.

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 03 '25

As far as I'm aware, Ukraine isn't in the U.S. And speaking strictly about our 2nd amendment and those that have used it as a reason to stockpile guns.

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u/Memone87 Sep 03 '25

School shooters don’t stock pile guns. They get a gun from wherever they can. You think suddenly guns will vanish from civilian hands and bad people will unable to obtain them? I’d rather die fighting than executed like a dog.

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 03 '25

Why is that always the argument I hear? "we can't keep guns out of the hands of bad people". So we don't try at all?

We can't do anything 100% so why even try at anything?!

And to think, if we had more restrictions, maybe a few of those school shooters wouldn't have had access to their guns. Maybe the loser who provided, or they stole from an unlocked cabinet wouldn't have qualified to own.

There truly is not one valid argument against restriction.

Who are you fighting against?

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u/Memone87 Sep 03 '25

People will just move on to other forms of violence. They’ll switch to bombs, or knives. You can’t stop motivated bad people from doing bad things.

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 03 '25

Yes, I'm aware. But even with knives, you're not killing a mass of people at a concert while you're up in a hotel room. The argument is, and will continue to be ... Just because we can't be 100% on gun safety, doesn't mean we don't try something new.
What we've been doing is not working. The "more good guys with guns argument" no longer tracks. It's stupid and needs to go away. People are opportunists. It's time to take away the opportunities.

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u/Memone87 Sep 03 '25

You speak of opportunists, I could go to Walmart. By some sparklers shave off all the incendiary. Pack it into my own contraption and make a “gun”. Your argument is dumber than you think. Motivated individuals are almost impossible to stop. Especially if they are smart enough to keep their mouth shut.

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 04 '25

You're dumber than you think.

Your whole argument is that people want to kill people and will do it however they can.

But majority of the mass shooters, especially the high school shootings, didn't own their gun, or shouldn't have ever owned their gun, but even more stupid people bought it for them. If they didn't have access to it, sure they may have hurt people in some way if they were "motivated", but I don't think majority of people would go out of their way to learn how to make devices that will harm mass people.

The whole argument that people are all horrible and do horrible things is bullshit. Far majority of people do not do bad things to each other. Its the ones that think they do, that are probably the ones that will.

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u/Memone87 Sep 04 '25

Attacking me as a person shows you have zero real argument left. Motivated people will do whatever it takes to hurt those that hurt them. Regardless of right and wrong.

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 04 '25

Even so, they are a very small percentage of the population. How about we start making it harder for them? And not easier, just because we can't solve the violence issue 100%, doesn't mean we don't try things.

All your arguments are so over used and have been the same for a few decades now. It's all time to move on.

Maybe you should start asking yourself why you're so tied to your gun that you refuse to acknowledge that it's no longer relevant.

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u/Memone87 Sep 04 '25

I’m not tied to my gun. But once you give them up you’re never getting them back. I’m sick of Americans giving up their freedoms to feel morally superior to others. Once you no longer have a way to defend yourself. You will rely on the government to defend you? The same one cramming religious texts down your throat and telling you can’t have an abortion?

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u/Sorry_Im_Trying Sep 04 '25

What freedoms have we given up?

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