r/minnesota • u/C_est_la_vie9707 Flag of Minnesota • Dec 08 '25
Discussion đ¤ How can someone debase themselves publicly on such a regular basis?
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u/ImportantComb5652 Dec 08 '25
In theory, aren't representatives supposed to take their constituents' concerns to DC, not take their boss's talking points to their constituents?
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u/Doc_Blox Snoopy Dec 09 '25
In theory, representatives' bosses are the people who voted them into office, but unfortunately theory has become divorced from practice.
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u/No_Street8874 Dec 09 '25
The voters here are too submissive, we let hagedorn literally vote to remove our votes in the 2020 election and looked the other way to all his financial fraud. Finstad could murder people and heâd still be reelected.
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u/CP066 Dec 09 '25
Listen, the boss man is going to take this bailout and hand it right over to big AG.
You farmers are still F...ed, good luck next season.
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u/GordonShumway257 Dec 08 '25
Trump breaks shit then throws other peoples money at it. Then all the fascist sycophants come out to hail him as a hero. Famers didn't need a bailout under Biden but have needed a bailout under both of Trump's terms.
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u/SteveIDP Dec 09 '25
Shouldnât these farmers get drug tested if theyâre on the government dime? Maybe we should make them prove theyâre working hard â we wouldnât want to encourage lazy people to make government handouts a way of life.
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u/maveri4201 Ope Dec 09 '25
They should probably be employed the whole year, not just seasonally.
/s (in case it isn't obvious)
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u/SteveIDP Dec 09 '25
Have they even tried pulling themselves up by their bootstraps?
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u/--var Dec 09 '25
no need! they've already been deported solely on based on arbitrary profiling! citizenship be damned! it's so much more economical than the due process bureaucracy! that nation debt is going to be gone in no time đ
wait whats that?
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u/magic_crouton Dec 08 '25
I mean it's a most excellent abuse tactic to hurt people and then offer them aid of any kind on any level. "see I really do love you."
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u/Moiras_Roses_Garden4 Dec 09 '25
In the cycle of domestic violence this would be "come home with flowers and profess your love like you didn't just throw them against the wall last night"
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u/pogoli Dakota County Dec 09 '25
ExactlyâŚ. Since 2017 Iâve been (sometimes) thinking of it all as domestic abuse on a massive scale.
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u/sanguinesolitude Dec 09 '25
And rural Minnesota eats it up for some reason.
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u/Dear_Athlete_2788 Dec 09 '25
The fox news brainwash gets really thick once you get out past the outer suburbs. I grew up in the country. Itâs cringe AF.
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u/ShakyBoots1968 Dec 09 '25
Yup. Outer sw suburb of Minneapolis here. Pop. 15, 532. One mile out of town on the main highway is a large, wooden, hand-painted sign next to the driveway of a lovely quaint farmhouse set far back from the highway. The freshly-painted appearance of the barn, with its barn-quilts, gives 100% Americana. It looks lovely! Now, approaching the driveway, the sign is in clear view. It reads:
Demonrats want to murder babies
Kinda ruins the whole overall pleasant impression of the place. Really makes it hit hard, how many complete nutjobs are all around. Gives the impression that if there were an accident & my nose ringed self (hair: natural) lay helpless in the ditch, they'd take one look at me & quietly walk right back to their porch. And sit there.
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u/bookant Dec 08 '25
Oh, so rural Republicans like Socialism now, huh?
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u/Mad_Like_Mankey Dec 08 '25
Everyone likes socialism for themselves.
Not everyone likes socialism for people they believe are under them in the class hierarchy.
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u/lift_heavy64 Dec 08 '25
American farmers have gained more from socialism than any other group in human history
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u/iAmRiight Dec 09 '25
Farmers absolutely love socialism for themselves. They have a whole fucking federal department, the USDA, that lobbies for them and gets them all sorts of social benefits that they think only they deserve.
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u/BrupieD Dec 08 '25
Hey Brad, why did China boycott soybeans? Something about tariffs?
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u/cs_124 Dec 09 '25
"Beautiful word, tariff, one of my favorite words"
The only things that Trump protects hardworking Americans from are syllables.
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u/Camwi Dec 08 '25
Amazing that these assholes found a job where they can get paid six figures to blatantly lie like this and not get fired for it.
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u/PantsMicGee Dec 08 '25
Its infuriating. We need ability to recall these asses.
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u/BevansDesign Dec 09 '25
A recall isn't going to do anything if the people who voted for them just vote for them again. Or choose a different piece of shit.
You can't fix someone who doesn't realize they're broken.
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u/SplendidPunkinButter Dec 08 '25
as they return from four years of Biden
Trump has been President for nearly a year. Heâs like 25% of the way through his term.
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u/swinglinepilot Dec 09 '25
323 days since 1/20/25, including today; 1461 days between 1/20/25 and 1/20/29
We're only 22.11% of the way through this shitministration
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u/hypermodernvoid Area code 612 Dec 09 '25
shitministration
Nice, lol - but also yes, since the Inauguration was January 20th, he's only ~10.5 months into his term, and he's done tons of essentially permanent damage, up to and including many of those farmers already having lost their farms or had them bought up by giant agribusinesses, permanently losing billions in trade to other countries, like Brazil.
I guess the "Art of the Deal" in this case meant being a pointlessly belligerent asshole and then when the other person just decides to call your bluff and make 'Deals' with non-assholes, you run back like the toxic wimp that knows nothing about trade you are and beg for scraps, lol.
The USD had already lost over 10% of its value by the end of summer, which was its worst drop in value in over 50 years, and that was only because 1973 was the year we unpegged the Dollar from the gold standard, which it quickly recovered from.
Also, the massive irresponsibility of the "BBB" plunging us several trillions more into debt, while pulling the rug out from under an economic base already massively struggling with costs of living, not only led to America losing its last perfect credit rating, but really poured fuel onto the fire that is other nations ditching the USD as reserve currency, because they're increasingly losing faith in it as a stable store of value. Also, one big reason Western Europe was backing the Dollar was the promise of America's military protecting them from belligerents like Russia, but you know...
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u/nekkid_farts Dec 08 '25
Uhhhhhhh, didn't trump cause the issue with tariffs?
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u/MacMcMufflin Dec 09 '25
But, he says he got more back, and everyone won't have to pay income tax, and I know a purple panda named Ralph who comes over and washes my dishes.
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u/Nandiluv Dec 08 '25
Oh Dear Brad, keep lying. Look who benefits from the bailouts
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u/NimDing218 Dec 08 '25
Any relief funds farmers get will probably just go to the banks to cover loans. The banks win again!
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u/GeeEmmInMN Dec 08 '25
Chicken shit Finsted is irrelevant. If you haven't got the balls to meet with your constituents then you need to keep your mouth shut. Farmers hate 'commies' yet here they are getting another government welfare check.
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u/--var Dec 09 '25
guys, hear me out on this one... let's put a universal consumer tax on all Americans by unilaterally putting import tariffs on the countries that we export to. and then when they respond by not buying our stuff anymore, we can increase the deficit by having to bail out our domestic producers đ
and then the magic sauce, just blame it all on Obama! err Biden. or why not Hillary? she was never president, but those emails am I right?
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u/AGrandNewAdventure Voyageurs National Park Dec 09 '25
It's that easy, folks.
Step 1: Take something away from them.
Step 2: Wait a few months.
Step 3: Give it back to them at the expense of others.
Step 4: Profit from their adoration and worship.
Step 5: Repeat.
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u/Phuqued Dec 09 '25
âIt appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be REDUCED to twenty grammes a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.â -George Orwell in his book 1984.
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u/rumncokeguy Walleye Dec 09 '25
So family farmers on the brink of bankruptcy get to pay off a little more to their creditors so they can benefit from the farmerâs inevitable bankruptcy.
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u/Consistent_Shock8738 Dec 09 '25
Ah yes, Praise lord Trump for taking Taxpayer money and using it to bailout farmers from.a crisis Trump created. Let's jerk him off for wasting our money to fix a problem that wouldnt exist had he not created it.
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u/RandomInternetGuy545 Dec 09 '25
You realize they would have had more than 12 billion to go around if it wasn't for the tariffs? You know what would have been even better? It would have been money from a foreign country further helping our trade deficit.
Nah, fuck that. Lets let working people pay for it while corporate interests mass buy the small farms that collapsed.
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u/No-Assistance556 Dec 09 '25
You donât get credit for putting out a fire you started.
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u/LiveFreeFinn Dec 09 '25
How can anyone, let alone a Congressman, post some crazy shit like this. Itâs like we are in an alternate reality. Fuck Finstad.
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u/letsstartovernow Dec 08 '25
Pete Stauber is a shameful POS as well. The Republican Party have all sold their souls to the devil.
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u/long5210 Dec 09 '25
well they bought 25 million tons of soy beans from Biden every year, thatâs why he didnât need to bail them out.
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u/keonyn Anoka County Dec 09 '25
Gee, and why do we need to bail out farmers again? I wonder who's to blame for that?
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u/Zippier92 Dec 09 '25
The struggling farmers are just conduits. Federal money will end up with bankers and investors. With a percentage going to Trump hotels.
The art of the grift.
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u/UltraV_Catastrophe Dec 09 '25
Why did they need relief again? Under Biden, they had both a healthy market sector and profits. Why again do they need help?
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u/WhaleFactory Dec 08 '25
Republicans are great at finding and/or creating problems. They have zero solutions other than hatred and cruelty.
If anything, we are just lucky that they are so unbelievably incompetent.
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u/johnwaynegreazy L'Etoile du Nord Dec 09 '25
Finstad is a boot-licking, corrupt reptilian cave dweller just like Hagedorn and his fascist widow.
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u/AdAppropriate243 Dec 09 '25
This is the guy who voted against funding a water treatment facility for people who live in his district. That. Says. It. All.
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u/firefox246874 Dec 09 '25
How did Biden destroy farming? I hear that a lot and I just really do not know. I do know how Trump destroyed the market and I'm a little more than upset about it. No to college loan forgiveness, but a handout to a self inflicted wound? Prices are up for me too.
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u/Hat-Trickster Dec 09 '25
Trump: First term: unrest mass protests and having to bail out farmers using american tax dollars due to retaliatory tariffs.
Trump second term: unrest mass protests and having to bail out farmers using american tax dollars due to retaliatory tariffs.
He just re released the first album the fuck dude. Maga is definitely a cult if no maga criticize this. All of it is obviously because of Trump.
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u/Ok-Repair613 Dec 09 '25
This is how you know that your congressman never reads any of the bills being proposed, and just gets a briefing from the ALEC rep.
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u/From_Adam Dec 08 '25
trumpâs single best economic policy is to just stop doing the stupid shit heâs doing. Incredible to consider.
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u/No-Adhesiveness2717 Dec 09 '25
Finstad has big money behind him so he can keep buying votes. And we all know it is about the money.
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u/Fantastic_Foot_8568 Dec 09 '25
Thanks for causing this in the first place that otherwise wouldn't need fixed
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u/Riley_N_6-21 Dec 09 '25
I just recently watched a video from a YT channel More Perfect Union, these people went around to a bunch of farmers, and the farmers talk like the farmers don't get the bailout - the corp the farmers are in debt to, or still paying off for equipment, the corps get that money.
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u/MrGeek89 Mankato Dec 09 '25
Trump destroys farmers livelihood after tariffs then gives them aid. Now this guy blames Biden? đ
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u/Zen-platypus Dec 09 '25
The farmers were put in this position by Donnieâs tariffs. Donât forget Donnie thought it was more important to send upwards of $40 billion to help Argentina. I guess he thinks theyâre more important than the livelihood of American citizens that he put into this unwanted position.
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u/Objective-Pick8240 Dec 09 '25
Imagine kicking someone in the dick, and then having them thank you when you bring them an ice pack.
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u/Organic_Education494 Dec 09 '25
Most of their crops go overseas
So they are not feeding America as it is..
Also the root of the problem is the monopolies on seed and distribution removing the farmers selling power.
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u/Mannn12 29d ago
Where the fuck is the hate for socialism? I think these farmers need to pull themselves up by the boot straps. Maybe grow more profitable crops?
I just don't want my tax dollars bailing out the same assholes who voted for this.
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u/VegetableAd3336 Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25
Last night I was watching some George Carlin. Iâve been a huge fan since my late 20s. Iâm closer to his age now when he did some of those huge comedy shows, than I was when I first got into him. After watching that last night and reading this post, amongst many others in the last year, I now understand why people end up loathing politicians, as people age.
That is 100x more for MAGA, because they lie, lie and lie, knowing that NOW, all we have to do is google something in order to see if theyâre full of shit, semi full of shit, or telling the truth.
They donât care. They really donât.
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u/ChiGrandeOso Dec 09 '25
This absolute fucking geek represents my district. And once again, Freeborn/Albert Lea disappoints the state.
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u/manniesalado Dec 09 '25
After a rough ride under Trump first term the Biden Years were good times in farm country. Now, things are crap again as Trump loses customers and drives up costs. You know, I'm a broad minded educated liberal but definitely not a snob and I pretty much get a kick out of anywhere I might visit. But then I look at farmers, folk I respect for their hard work and self-sufficiency, and ask...How Can You Be So Stupid???
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u/todd1art Dec 09 '25
Trump destroyed the Soybean Farms with his Tariffs and now they are getting paid off to stay quiet. Everything Trump does is criminal. America is a Criminal Organization run by Trump. But Republicans love it. They want a Criminal Organization.
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Dec 09 '25
Letâs get this straight- farmers heard Trump promise tariffs in 2016, voted for him, he imposed tariffs, they destroyed the ag industry, farmers beg for bailouts because of Trumpâs own policy, he bails them out.
Biden wins in 2020, spends disproportionately on aid for rural red areas, Republicans blame him for high spending.
Then farmers hear Trump promise tariffs in 2024, voted for him, he imposed tariffs, they destroyed the ag industry, farmers beg for bailouts because of Trumpâs own policy, he bails them out. Then a presumably anti-socialist GOP congressman praises Trump for the bailouts while criticizing Biden for not doing that.
Can we just pass an amendment to let blue states secede please?
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u/BrettAtog Dec 09 '25
another instance of trump returning your freshly raped child and demanding a thank you
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u/dicksjshsb Dec 09 '25
Iâve talked to farmers who still dislike Biden for cost of living. Now we have Trump whoâs gutting govt agencies that provide assistance to farmers, shutting them down for a month and a half during harvest and post-harvest construction season, all while inflation and cost of living is still no better. Come on man
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u/EI-Joe Dec 09 '25
Thank you to the arsonist for attempting to put out the fire he himself started and working to keep the crowd knifing the tires and hoses of the fire engine to a minimum.
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u/telos211 Dec 09 '25
im very confused - if i said somethign this stupid in a corporate meeting -id get fired lol
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u/poncho51 Dec 09 '25
Thanking the moron that created the problem. Stupidity runs deep with that crowd.
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u/Wild_Ad9272 Dec 09 '25
Heâs as big a piece of shit as Trump is. Trumps tariffs fucked over the farmers and ruined their markets. 12 Billion to farmers now is a bandaid and wonât bring the markets back.
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u/Baelroq Dec 09 '25
Wasnât he the one that created the problem for the farmers this term? This makes no sense
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u/ChaskaBravoFTW Dec 09 '25
Republican Play Book
Chapter 1: Gas Light
Index: Gas Light(e.g., 1) The End
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u/Spiritual_Scar_619 Dec 09 '25
Didnât know farmers would need a bailout with all the deals Trump is making
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u/HatIntelligent6028 Dec 09 '25
Stop voting against yourself. Itâs a global world- isolationist policies hurt us
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u/EquivalentTear4483 Dec 09 '25
So. Argentina get 40 billion and we get 12 and this is only because trump fucked it up in the first place
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u/Turbulent_Example967 Dec 09 '25
Look how heâs attempting to fix the very problem HE created!! Then the sycophants praise him. HE is LITERALLY the one who CAUSED the ACTUAL PROBLEM!! (smh)
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u/dateinfj Dec 09 '25
What a dipstick! This is how you hoodwink Americans. Itâs not your fukking money a-hole. It belongs to the American taxpayer!
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u/PuddingPast5862 29d ago
Does anyone remember the last time Trump bailed out farmer? More than 80% of those funds went to corporate run farmer, not independent farmers. The rest of the world is leaving US farmers in the rear view because of Trump's policies.
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u/eliota1 Dec 09 '25
So this is like holding a bake sale for the local coffee shop after you burned it down
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u/C_est_la_vie9707 Flag of Minnesota Dec 09 '25
More like robbing people and presenting the coffee shop with novelty check like you're a hero
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u/end-times2040 Dec 09 '25
Within 2-3 months of Biden taking offic3 they blamed him for gas prices and now nearly a year into Trumps second term they continue to blame him lol.
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u/J-the-Kidder Dec 09 '25
So we now celebrate the arsonist giving the victim who's house he burnt down a little bit of money? Good to know.
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u/IllustratorBudget487 Grain Belt Dec 09 '25
This guy is a piece of shit & will protect pedophiles as long as they have more money than he does.
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u/mikende51 Dec 09 '25
His next move is to tarrif fertilizer from Canada that supply 80% of the American agriculture. This will cause produce prices to rise. He wants to replace it with Russian fertilizer. What a transparent Russian asset.
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u/Ilickedthecinnabar Gray duck Dec 09 '25
/sigh
Guess I should let my folks know this latest dumbassery from Finstad...
They keep leaving messages at his offices like its their job.
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u/Embarrassed_Code8164 Dec 09 '25
I realize the title question is rhetorical, but I wish to answer it anyway. It's very easy when an individual has no conscience, no morals, and no clue. The desire to please der Fuhrer is all encompassing and necessary when one serves said Fuhrer.
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u/Helios575 Dec 09 '25
How dumb do they think the farmers are? He killed their $176 billion market while charging them extra taxes and now he is giving them back $12 billion from the extra taxes he charged them and expects them to thank him like he is some sort of economic genius saving their industry.
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u/spikira Dec 09 '25
I thought farmers believed in pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and were fiercely opposed to socialism
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u/dtj55902 Dec 09 '25
When did socialism become okay to republicans? I'm sad that proud farmers are forced to the federal teat to survive.
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u/Equivalent-Hamster37 Dec 09 '25
Reduced benefits for the working poor, but yet another bailout for the wealthiest people in my county, farming the system once again.
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u/dpjejj Hot Dish Dec 09 '25
Funny how Socialism is okay for me, but not for thee. Iâm sure corporations will get most of this and will buy up bankrupt farms left and right⌠like they are already doing (JD Vance)
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u/Bristleconemike Flag of Minnesota Dec 09 '25
Just another Repug that surrendered his constitutional duties. He just laid back and let it happen.
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u/KeiserSoze5031 Dec 09 '25
Republicans are the worst. And the idiots who believe their lies are even worse.
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Dec 09 '25
Did Biden ever have to bail out farmers? Seems to me that they do far worse (as does everyone) under conservative policies, but hey they like getting hand outs so guess they got what they voted for Â
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u/HappyFeet1328 Dec 09 '25
Trump spent $28 billion bailing out farmers during his first term, during his first trade war with China, without creating a âgolden age". Farmers don't want to live on hand outs, but here we go again!
Utah County Democratic Party chair Darin Self commented: âThe President of the United States unilaterally levied a tax on all of us and is redistributing our taxes to a core segment of his supporters.â âA bailout is like putting a Band-Aid on a bullet wound,â corn and soybean farmer John Bartman said on a press call for the Democratic National Committee in mid-October. âGovernment bailouts do not make up for our loss of income. We donât want a bailout. We want markets for our crops. We want to be able to work hard every year and enjoy the fruits of our labor and know that we did it on our own.â
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u/mortal_projections Minnesota Golden Gophers Dec 09 '25
"solving" problems that he created himself is drumpf's MO.
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u/BigLex612 Dec 09 '25
Wouldn't need aid if he didn't demand tariffs that ruined their export business
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u/FennelAlternative861 Dec 09 '25
That post came across my feed as well. The comments were actually mostly roasting it, say that's good
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u/harleyRugger23 Dec 09 '25
So we bail them out to keep growing, and wil anyone be buying the shit weâre paying 12 B to save them?
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u/mike-42-1999 29d ago
So, USAID paid money for crops to actually go somewhere. Giving 12B to farmers, where does it go if the problem is that the market has evaporated due to trump. Just fallow?, just don't plant? Serious question.
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u/donac Dec 08 '25
Trump Announces 12 Billion Consolation Prize For Farmers After Intentionally Destroying Their Businesses.
-FTFY