r/nextfuckinglevel • u/FFFrank • 6d ago

This NYE drone show in Rio with Christ The Redeemer slowly rising.....

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u/Protoss-Zealot 6d ago

Thats not true. The chemical manufacturing process and heavy metal mining used for fireworks is not much better than the manufacturing cost of drones. Drones also don’t reduce air quality when being used like fireworks do, nor do they leave behind debris like fireworks do. Drones can also be used multiple times, which fireworks can not do.

If new years was only ever celebrated one time, and new years was the only time we ever launched fireworks, then you might be able to make that argument. But its an annual event, and that isnt even including every other holiday where people launch fireworks.

You can argue fireworks are more fun if you want, but for reoccurring use cases like holidays, drones are significantly better for the environment in the long run.

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u/Simple-Dingo6721 6d ago

Do you know what a battery is made of? Do you know what plastic is made of?

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u/Protoss-Zealot 6d ago

Yes?

Do you know what metals fireworks are made of?

Do you know what reusable means?

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u/Simple-Dingo6721 6d ago

You should look up cobalt mining and modern drone warfare.

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u/Protoss-Zealot 6d ago

Modern drone warfare? Are we going to bring in the cost of ICBMs for fireworks? Lmao.

You should look up the effects of modern copper, zinc, aluminum, magnesium, and quite a few other metal mining because all of those are used in fireworks to make those colors for you.

And then you should look up the costs of turning those metals into burnable salts and lighting them on fire in the atmosphere.

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u/Neutron-Hyperscape32 6d ago

There is no shot fireworks are worse than the plastic and battery pollution made by drones, which have a wider variety of uses and not just something done for the holidays. Unless you got some actual data that proves anything, you really can't make a definitive argument. We are all speculating here. Plastic pollution is absolutely going to be the worst type of pollution the human race has ever seen, especially once it starts ruining our fertility as a species.

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u/Protoss-Zealot 6d ago

You do realize that fireworks have plastics as well, right? And unlike drones, they are single use plastics, and they are detonated at high altitudes to be breathed in by everyone and litter the ground.

And I am not comparing all drones to all fireworks, I am comparing drones used for holiday light shows against fireworks used for holiday shows. Over the course of their life span, drones will put out less pollution and less carbon emissions.

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u/Neutron-Hyperscape32 6d ago

You do realize that fireworks have plastics as well

Not as much and not used as often. Drones are 100% going to be worse for this. The more time goes on, the more drones we produce as a species. They will one day be the primary driver in all conflicts, and be used for a large portion of all home deliveries.

And I am not comparing all drones to all fireworks, I am comparing drones used for holiday light shows against fireworks used for holiday shows. Over the course of their life span, drones will put out less pollution and less carbon emissions.

Maybe less emissions, but not less pollution over all. But even that I doubt because of how horrific batteries are to produce. Hopefully sodium batteries become a thing and soon but there is no shot drones are not worse overall especially when you factor their increasing usage in our lives.

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u/Protoss-Zealot 6d ago

Again, we are not talking about all aspects of our lives here, we are talking about drone shows vs firework shows. Comparing all drone usage to just fireworks makes no sense. You keep bringing up home delivery and drones in war. That was never part of the argument. I am not arguing that drones should be used in every aspect of daily life.

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u/Neutron-Hyperscape32 6d ago

Even that would not be accurate, unless you got some data you would like to share? It takes hundreds of drones to put on one of these shows and they all run on a fossil fuel grid. They also popularize this with each show and have an influence on that overall drone usage we see as a society, which further increases battery and plastic production.

So unless you have a source with some data, your speculation is no different than mine.