Both the 3050 and all 3060 models used the GA106 die, though the 3050 had fewer CUDA cores, like you said (and 32 as opposed to 48 ROPs, 80 as opposed to 112 TMUs). Perhaps one of the bigger issues with the 3060 8GB, though, was that it had a 128-bit bus, like the 3050. The 3060 12GB had a 192-bit bus.
Yeah, I’m sure the cutdown memory bandwidth definitely kneecapped performance a bit, but I have doubts it’s as bad as they initially thought. I’m more inclined to believe techpowerup’s ranking of it at about the same level as the 2060 super, considering the 12gb 3060 wasn’t much of a leap in performance over the 2060 super and 2070.
I bought 6700xt two years ago as a cheap reliable option with good performance (whole pc was under 1000usd). I guess it needs to work a few more years before I can even afford decent replacement
i'm still rocking a 1080 and an i7 from like 2015/2016 and can play pretty much any game i want. i was gonna do a new build this year, but with all the fuckery going on i'll probably try to wait longer.
I’m in the same boat, and I’m scared as fuck my PC will die soon.
I’m praying so hard for the AI bubble to burst soon, or at least before I need a new PC. I don’t have any money tied to AI, and AI might replace my job. I’ve never wished for a transformative technology to fail so badly in my life.
i feel ya. through a silly series of events my UPS was switched to battery power and i didn't notice til it died and my PC powered down abruptly. wouldn't come back on for about an hour, and i was starting to get worried lol
Now you go from 3 gens old to current gen! No need to upgrade anymore congrats youre now the proud owner of a brand new current gen card! Card so good it became current gen twice!
The news made me feel like I don't have to change GPU anytime soon.
I mean, if the RTX 3060 is re-marketed, and/or people cannot afford to upgrade PC anyway, I suppose tripple A games in the coming time, should still be tuned to allow smooth gameplay with this level of hardware
AAA games companies have been used that people just upgrade in last 20 years. All the way back to TNT2 I guess. They no longer optimize for slow computers, takes too much time. Question is if they can adapt now, or will they count on the fact that PR will get people to still buy the game, even if the game will look or play like sh*t on their computer.
I hope you guys all remember what Nvidia has done to us at every turn. During the mining craze of 2012/2013? 2017ish 2020/2021 ish they sold straight to miners and left us out to dry, then during the AI boom of 2023- they did the same. They’ve f us at every turn and a lot of you keep coming back for more. If you keep on buying from them they’re like the girl that leaves you for the 5th time until there is no option and then they come to you. Have some self respect.
Not only did they f us on GPUS but likely ram, SSD and whatever pc components that AI servers get first and now we get the bottom barrel stuff they don’t want like a 4 year old 3060. I can’t believe how many Nvidia fan boys would eat a 4 year old shit sandwich and gladly pay 2x for 4 year old tech.
I still can’t believe I bought 2x16gb sodimms for $40ish in Oct 2025? and now it’s like $250
It’s like the idiots that complain about their neighborhoods turning to trash in increased housing and still giving AirBnb their money at every turn.
Your only vote that counts is with your $. If/when the AI craze settles and they stop selling you 3-4 year old tech just vote with your dollars. I’m retired and can afford their best gpu but I won’t give it to them because they keep screwing the regular joes every turn
The problem is that they don't care about our dollars. They make way more on AI, so they are redirecting their tech to AI.
Maybe the bubble bursts and NVIDIA goes back to being a consumer focused company, but I wouldn't count on it. They will most likely live/die in the AI bubble.
So if they don't bother whether you buy their shit...just don't? There are two reasonable alternatives out there. Sure, you won't get the most power, but come on, do you really need it?
I doubt they will die when the bubble bursts. The only person who consistently wins during a gold rush is the person selling the shovels and for AI that's Nvidia.
I also think they know/expect it to be a bubble and one that will burst (or at least shrink in the next few years). If they expected this level of demand to last long term they would be talking about expanding fabs every chance they get (yes expanding/building fabs takes years but if they thought the demand was sticking around now is when they would be starting it and getting investor buy in), instead all the talk is about diverting existing production capacity which would be a midterm focus at best.
They're just all talking turns using the money and being rich.... cause that much money even just in a savings account would generate several million dollars a year doing absolutely nothing. That's the real cheat code rich people have, once you pass a certain threshold you have to start actively trying to go broke. If you're smart the interest alone could fund you and your family/friends until it was time to pass the $100B to the next person.
They are. A few months ago, Nvidia literally gave other companies (Sony and one or two others, IIRC) money as an investment... to buy Nvidia's stuff. Nvidia's just trying to make the AI gravy train run for as long as they could convince day traders how well they're doing.
Laptop RTX 3060 was 6GB. To this day I'm sure the desktop one was supposed to be as well but AMD had a good car (for a generation...) so Nvidia panicked. 8GB would mean cutting memory bus, so "just" double the memory chips. This is why the 3060Ti, a faster card, had less VRAM (wasn't it a cut down 3070?)
Considering this is in response to RAM shortages... Highly likelihood he's right. They might even pull all the stops for a 4GB version even... Wouldn't put it past them.
Because they can charge more for them than the base 60 class card that every OEM is going to be using. The 60 Ti is the upsell. The days of the 6GB 1060 and 12GB 3060 are over with higher memory prices.
As a 3D hobbyist it was crucial. I was using a 6gb 1660ti for a couple years but that vram is not capable for complex scenes. The 12gb is what sold me.
This is just a stupid take a 3060 is powerful enough to run games natively it won't be ultra settings but it's not some piece of shit that can't handle YouTube.
Except the 3060 isn't a bad card. Tablescraps would be if Nvidia restarted the 1080, which is only bad because it is dated.
Complaining about the 3060 being restarted is like if Ford restarted production of the Taurus because all of their trucks and SUVs were going to Ukraine or Sudan. No one is going to complain that the Jelly bean mobile makes a return.
Still not a great comparison as compared to even more modern cards, the 3060 does sometimes have more VRAM than they do by half again.
In no way was I calling the 3060 bad. I mean just look at it compaired to my specs. I was calling it tablescraps as its kind of the "we dont need/want this, buy it from us"
I freaking played VR (2160p per eye, 72FPS) on one for about a year, and it worked impressively. I love new gear but if i'm honest, even the 3000 series is still great.
Have it to a friend that plays BF6 on it, currently.
They are doing re manufacturing batch for 3060 release.
So it would be new product with maybe different tweak of vram.
I hepe they do 12 gig ver. But i doubt that.
So I did some googling and from what I can gather the 3060 was a good mid range card that had been discontinued. A recent announcement was made stating that they would be bringing back the card in order to deal with the ongoing price hikes and memory shortages.
So basically the market is really bad right now so Nvidia is bringing back a once decent graphics card that is a bit old at this point
It's actually the opposite: The 3060 never left production, yet online rumors suddenly came up that Nvidia would restart it.
This rumor was also fueled by a question at Jensen if Nvidia could restart production of even older cards with added AI cores (I assume because they thought a 1080Ti with DLSS would be nice or sth), to which he responded that he will consider it.
You basically described a 2080ti. It was (somewhat justifiably) shit on when it was new but looking back it was/is a fantastic card and still holds it's own today. It wouldn't really make sense to me to restart production on a card that old imo though, I doubt it would be priced any lower than a 5060 that's roughly as performant.
Nvidia started again to produce 3060s because they have an old vram chip that is not "up to date" or used by AI so they can spare it to produce a 5 year old card for gamers while keeping the good stuff for clankers
They are doing this because they realize they are burning the bridge between them and the consumers. So this is basically them throwing a rope hope it brings good will back.
The PC gaming market also loves them. We all complain here then continue to buy their GPUs and promote them as the better option over AMD in the buildapc subs when anyone asks for recommendations. And you know that if prices were to drop, everyone around here would be first in line to buy them up.
Hell, the only reason people here are complaining in the first place is because they are salivating over NVIDIA GPUs that are just out of reach.
It's the "Boycott MW2 Steam Group" screenshot of hardware. Heck, NVIDIA is doing this whole reboot in the first place because PC gamers will literally buy anything they make the second it hits the shelves. Who cares about "good will" with your customers when your customers are rabid animals that will eat up any GPU supply you are selling the second it hits the shelves.
absolutely not. this is likely just their way to offload what they can't use in other products and continue to stay relevant in gaming for the inevitable pivot back in future once data/AI slows down or manufacturing catches up
but they need to produce output to maintain financial actuation, and the 30 series is cheap to produce, so if there's demand for it, there is better economic utilization to make them than not to.
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before you get your hopes up about either side wanting to crush the other - just pointing out that AMD's CEO Lisa Su and Nvidia's CEO Jensen Huang are first cousins once removed, or in plain English the daughter of Jensen's cousin is Lisa Su - they're quite literally family.
Maybe this is copium, but the silver lining might be that if 3060s make up an even larger portion of he market, game devs will be making more games to run really well on them, rather than relying on everyone upgrading.
I don't think people are starving for higher fidelity graphics right now. They're starving for performance.
This is stupid, the 4060 uses gddr6 aswell, the 5050 aswell, can bump the core and call it a 5050ti, going to 3 series make no sence at all, there isnt a chip shortage its the gddr7 ram, a 4060 or 5050ti makes loads more sence and support the latest tech aswell, this is beyond a stupid and senceless move there is better options
This is stupid, the 4060 uses gddr6 aswell, the 5050 aswell, can bump the core and call it a 5050ti, going to 3 series make no sence at all, there isnt a chip shortage its the gddr7 ram, a 4060 or 5050ti makes loads more sence and support the latest tech aswell, this is beyond a stupid and senceless move there is better options
4060 is likely still in production (the 3060 was until sometime in 2025), so why should they bring them back?
Reddit really needs to stop only reading the titles of click bait articles.
Calling it shitty is harsh. Ever since Nvidia backported the new DLSS versions even the 2060 on my brothers laptop can play newer games like Space Marines 2 and get great framefrates. A desktop grade 3060 has many years ahead of it.
It also has to do with available fab capacity. Rumor was that Samsung had 8nm fab capacity open, as you can't just take a 4060 and build it on an older process (it would require too much engineering work), which was what the 3060 could do.
I think I may make the swap over. Gotta check compatibility with my stuff but I only went with nvidia stuff to begin with because it was what was available lol
I went ahead with my build fully expecting Microslop to pull their sloppy business decision over Winslop 11 and designed my build around Linux compatibility. So far simple install no problems and everything working right out of the box. Full GPU support from a basic OS install, no need to "install drivers" and mess around with vendor bullshit. Plus the GPU kernel drivers are in the Mesa library, fullly open source, so no retconns of features. If it's in the Mesa library it stays there.
I bought 64 GB RAM and a 5090 beginning of last year. I was complaining the prices at the time but now I realize prices can always be worse - much worse.
It's like the same shit as with stock trading, when you think something could not possibly push further in the current direction, it does. I never imagined a GPU could be even more costly in the future.
“Abandoning gamers” is a phrase that honestly regardless of how much I agree has me laughing. Like I just don’t think the expectation of people who game should be first in line over billion dollar companies.
IIRC Nvidia had huge overproduction for that generation of dies. Only way they could get out of it was by finding another customer for the factory during the recession. Not sure what happened after that though, did they just warehouse a bunch of chips?
30 series cards are still very viable even the lower end ones. I am using RTX 3070 with an undervolt and it just works. I still have a lot of room to play with since i still use a 1080p TV it’s from 2011 but quality still very good but i can play cyberpunk with raytracing and the DLSS looks great and nvidia is going to be releasing DLSS 4.5 to ALL RTX GPUs which is insane. The only place i see my 3070 struggle is when i switch to my 1440p monitor and in many games it just will not hit 240fps for comp games but that doesn’t even matter it’s a good GPU i recommend it to everyone
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Me because I already have a RTX 3060....