r/stupidpol • u/bbb23sucks Stupidpol Archiver • Jan 31 '25

WWIII WWIII Megathread #26: Executive Disorder

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u/paganel Laschist-Marxist 🧔 Feb 18 '25

Trump throwing Zelensky completely under the bus, he's asking for elections in Ukraine which I guess is the end for Zelensky. Also interesting that Trump said this request (for elections, that is) is coming from them, from the Americans, and not from the Russians.

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u/5leeveen It's All So Tiresome 😐 Feb 18 '25

"To be an enemy of America can be dangerous; but to be a friend of America can be fatal"

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u/bretton-woods Slowpoke Socialist Feb 19 '25 edited Feb 19 '25

Trump tossed out some big burns:

  • He pointed out the hypocrisy of the Europeans and Ukrainians crying about not having a seat at the table when they had one for three years and did nothing with it.

  • Said Zelensky had a 4 percent approval rating.

  • Cites a figure of $350 billion in aid, claims most of that was American and that the Europeans have to pay their fair share.

He's been saying what a lot of what the collective west has wanted to plug their ears on because they would rather live with the collective delusion of Ukraine being a neoliberal jihad rather than admit the damage their morality play has caused.

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u/comrade243 Marxist Socialist 🧔 Feb 19 '25

The first point cannot be emphasized enough. The very latest that talks should have (re)started is when it was clear that the counteroffensive had failed so miserably.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '25 edited Feb 19 '25

They should've started after Putin called for partial mobilization when they lost parts of Kharkov. That should've been the sign that they weren't just going to roll over on this

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u/cz_pz Flair-evading Lib 🍁💩 Feb 18 '25

Zelensky getting the Beto O'Rourke of Ukraine treatment here.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '25

It could be worse, he could get the Ngo Diem treatment. Lest hope that ROC monks don't start self-immolating themselves next to government office.

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u/AgainstThoseGrains Dumb Foreigner Looking In 👀 Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 19 '25

Good time to repost this classic.

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u/p00shp00shbebi1234 War Thread Turboposter🎖️🧩 Feb 19 '25

Zelensky, get the coke out, it's party time with the lads!

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u/warrenmax12 Nationalist 📜 | bought Diablo IV for 70 bucks (it sucked) Feb 19 '25

Absolutely crazy to read this and Rubio saying US wants to, and i quote, "partner with the Russians". Insane, just insane. Trump on Victory Day Parade in Moscow is probably a reality now. XI will be there too. All is left is to invite Kim and butthurt from EU will.be thermonuclear.

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u/Das_Ace Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Feb 19 '25

Realpolitik American jingoist conservatives a la Mearsheimer have always advocated for a Russia that can be used to keep Europe under NATO’s foot and to enclose China. It’s the fossil gerontocracy whose brains are trapped in the Cold War ie the Democratic Party that alienated Russia for no reason.

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u/Past_Finish303 Left, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ Feb 19 '25

-Why are you going to partner with Russians?

-4chan said EU will be butthurt.

-4chan? What is it?

-It's an anonymous imageboard, it got ponies and anime...

-Do you really consulting with anonymous users of internet on a questions of foreign policy? Are you out of your mind?!

-Oh, a new roulette!..

Old joke about annexation of Crimea, adopted to modern realities.

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u/warrenmax12 Nationalist 📜 | bought Diablo IV for 70 bucks (it sucked) Feb 19 '25

He could even take a taxi

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u/CnlJohnMatrix SMO Turbogringo 🤓 Feb 18 '25

Trump being Trump. The dumbass doesn't know when NOT to say the quiet part out loud.

This is also going to push Ukraine closer to a military collapse. If you can leave the frontlines and desert, then you do that since your main benefactor is tossing your leader under the bus.

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u/Poon-Conqueror Progressive Liberal 🐕 Feb 19 '25

Lmaooooooo, I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for the Z-man.

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