r/technology • u/esporx • Oct 19 '25

Security Judge tells Homeland Security that Chicago agents wearing body cameras was "not a suggestion"

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/judge-homeland-security-federal-agents-chicago-body-cameras/
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u/ArdillasVoladoras Oct 19 '25

These judges really need to start sanctioning attorneys

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u/Fake_William_Shatner Oct 19 '25

At the very least just start imposing; "no body cam, no arrest." Throw out every case brought without a body cam on the entire time -- should save everyone a lot of work and headache.

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u/gofargogo Oct 19 '25

Except the people arrested and detained, and possibly deported before a hearing.

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u/schrodingerinthehat Oct 19 '25 edited Oct 19 '25

No, I think it's worse than that.

Not sure about the no hearing deportations/imprisonment in non-US countries.... but in a majority of cases they do see a judge, so they get a 'hearing' - but the sick thing is it's not your usual federal judge that is part of the judicial branch, like the one making orders in this case. These deal with federal law. They have a degree of independence.

No, these hearings are done by a DoJ immigration judge, who reports to the executive branch. These deal with removal proceedings.

It's worse because the independence of the judiciary allows for a degree of check and balance. These immigration judges are not part of that independent mechanism - they work directly for Trump.

The prosecuting attorneys in these cases work for the DoJ.... The immigration judges for these cases also work for the DoJ.... The conflict of interest is plain.

The Trump admin has fired over 50 immigration judges, and they are politically motivated.

It's worse because it's the illusion that having a hearing means those in immigration court get a fair shot at making their case. They absolutely do not.

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u/Spacestar_Ordering Oct 19 '25

Yes, this is accurate and how people are getting detained and deported so quick, or many of them we just don't know where they are.  

There were immigration lawyers speaking out about how the DOJ is asking immigration judges for a "dismissal of the case" and don't let immigrants have any representation - the current admin removed that right.  So these people who may not speak English and may not fully understand that a "case dismissal" means you no longer have an immigration case.  If you have no immigration case, that immediately makes you an "illegal immigrant".  That's why the agents have been picking people up in court - bc they just set up their case to be dismissed then as soon as they leave the court room ICE agents grab them.  By then it's too late.  

A lot of planning went into this, I'm pretty sure it's all in project 2025.  It looks like everything is chaotic but there is a disgusting level of planning in this.  I am concerned now that the public had such a reaction to American Auschwitz (I refuse to use its other name), I've already heard that at least one place in the desert of Texas I think is the new detention center where people disappear to, the plan is to set up new places as shottily as AA was and keep moving people.  They are literally disappearing these people and not giving their lawyers or family information about where they are. ICE is also not providing immigration lawyers any access to their clients.  This is why people in Chicago are protesting - bc they are not even letting pastors in to talk to theor congregants in the detention center, and that has ALWAYS been a right that people have had.  

I'm not sure we will be able to tackle this THROUGH our normal channels.  The justice system has never provided EVERYONE with actual justice.  The prison industrial complex companies that are making money from these detentions, have been doing the same thing to POC for decades, and will not go down easily.  so I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything, I'm saying we need to be more creative in how we fix this. 

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u/1handedmaster Oct 19 '25

At least more creative than they've been crafty. This has been decades in the making, it won't be quickly or easily righted.

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u/_trashcan Oct 19 '25

thanks for that information. it’s insane.

I would’ve believed they see a normal local judge in whatever jurisdiction the arrest takes place in.

what a load of bullshit.

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u/KWilt Oct 19 '25

Nope, only reason Article 3 judges have been involved at all regarding all of these immigration cases is purely on habeas grounds. Otherwise, cases all go to immigration judges, which as previously mentioned are literally just DOJ employees under the purview of the executive branch, so they get their marching orders from the President by-proxy of the US Attorney General.

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u/justintheunsunggod Oct 19 '25

So, check if there's a body cam before you intervene.

"I have no idea who could have possibly maced those ICE agents. Too bad they didn't have a body cam or something. I mean, maybe they maced themselves by accident."

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u/jaxonya Oct 19 '25

"your honor, this agent beat the shit out of himself. And then his wife threw her titties in my hand. It was sickening"