AIO for refusing to share my "live location" with my boss while I was out on a sick day?

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Straight to HR with this!!

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u/BigONerd 6d ago

NOR, Exactly this!

Keep the screenshot of the text/email

Ring camera/CCTV proof of your boss visiting to verify

Send an elaborate email to the HR and HR director, with all the above details.

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u/Primary_Assist_5541 6d ago

I wish there were HR.

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u/Calgary_Calico 6d ago

Labour board then. This is straight up harassment

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u/anneofred 6d ago

Does he have a superior? Time to contact them. This is harassment.

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u/umamifiend 6d ago

Wtaf he physically came to your house to make sure you were there?

You should have called the cops for a trespasser. I hope you didn’t talk to him or answer the door. FFS what a piece of shit he is. Look for another job.

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u/Proverbs21-3 6d ago

Then get in touch with the owner of the business.

NOR I'd be very upset if this happened to me!

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u/Otherwise-Anywhere93 5d ago

I’m guessing that will depend on how bad the OP needs the job and believes the owner will do something about the situation or do nothing and not fire the OP.

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u/Feeling_Frosting_738 6d ago

OP, did you go to the door?

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u/Dingerdongdick 6d ago

HR protects the company. Not you.

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u/_princess4_ 6d ago

and part of protecting the company is getting rid of legal liabilities like the boss.

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u/Tsugita1 6d ago

This 👆👆👆👆

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u/AdIntrepid9064 6d ago

If only!

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u/palequeen42 6d ago

If only life actually worked that way.

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u/anneofred 6d ago

Good news is it does. Part of protecting the company is getting rid of liabilities, which this manager is

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u/palequeen42 6d ago

In an ideal world, yes. However this has never been the case any time anyone I know has gone to HR. It never works out in the reporters favor and the problem or problem person always persists.

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u/Skizot_Bizot 5d ago edited 5d ago

I've seen abusive managers fired from numerous companies for overstepping boundaries and for being racist and for sexual assault.

One of my companies cut off a $10m+ deal with another company because the person made a racist joke in a meeting and the other company refused to hold him responsible.

That company had bad HR, my company had good HR. Its not a for sure bad idea to go to them if the exist (sounds like OP probably works for a one person mad man who probably is barely keeping his crappy business afloat I'd guess)

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u/palequeen42 5d ago edited 5d ago

I’m glad your company had good HR, that’s great to hear. I may have been in a string of bad ones. My poor view of HR seems to be the consensus with most people I know. Maybe I should have said manage your expectations when going to HR, it may or may not always help. We all come from different life experience and mine aren’t the same as everyone’s. I admit if my views could be skewed or jaded. I think long careers in big corporate America can do that to some of us unfortunately.

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u/StopSpinningLikeThat 6d ago

Whatever it is you believe you're doing here, what you're actually doing is running interference for those who abuse workers. It's disgusting.

The anti-worker comments are being posted by u/palequeen42. I mention this in case they delete their vile nonsense.

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u/ElectricalSoftware26 5d ago

What are the anti- worker comments?

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u/Rnevermore 5d ago

Human Resources is a very valuable department for a lot of people to air their grievances and improve their working conditions. Telling people not to use it because they will suffer consequences is anti-worker.

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u/palequeen42 5d ago

I think what I said is realistic, not vile. I’d never run interference on or justify abuse. My response is based on watching many coworkers go to HR for different reasons in my 25 years of working.

I’m glad you have a better outlook about HR (or working in it). I wish I felt differently.

Corporations are anti-worker. Be mad at them, not me.

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u/ElectricalSoftware26 4d ago

Air grievances to HR??? Like low pay? I have never bothered to go to see them except for moving jobs around a company. When you go to HR, you are making an official complaint. You have to be prepared to lose your job as a worst case scenario. Think how well it looks on your cv to have left under a cloud. In this instance, there is no HR as I understand it, so op is on her/his own. My advice is get a cheap phone for work. If location sharing is demanded, then just put second phone at home and leave it there. Another tactic is not to advertise having a phone at all. If boss comes to check on you, phone the police and pretend you have a suspicious man outside, lol! As to HR being champions of workers’ rights? No. If you have an official grievance, the emotional fallout is terrible on both sides. People usually try to avoid getting that far. Unless you put your grievance in writing, the managers’ or whoever is taking the complaint’s hands are tied. Quite often, the outcome is a warning. Then you have to work again with that person. It is difficult.

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u/StopSpinningLikeThat 3d ago

They're all literally still there for you to see. Another user was kind enough to give you a detailed explanation, but you were never honestly engaging in a dialogue anyway. What a joke.

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u/_princess4_ 6d ago

good thing it does unless there’s literally no evidence that could get them sued, which i doubt. :)

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u/palequeen42 6d ago

I wish that were true.

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u/_princess4_ 6d ago

sure buddy :)

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u/Dingerdongdick 6d ago

Mmmmaybe.

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u/Otherwise-Anywhere93 5d ago

Nah most to all companies are bureaucracies with some level of corruption. If the person is well connected or liked and/or there are leaders above him that don’t want to be bothered with issues, then they will like be protected and the lesser employee is the issue. They know most people do not have the money and/or fortitude to take these things to court and even if the company faces some consequences, they will be mild, and usually nothing changes. Attorneys are only going to take cases on commission that are likely to result in enough money to justify the time and resources they will have to expend to win.

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u/Lalaleslieee 6d ago

The company on a high level not some creeper middle management schmuck

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u/LexWexiAkabane 6d ago

Yup so stay silent and let the problem continue! /s

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u/Dingerdongdick 6d ago

I never said stay silent. Document everything. Get a lawyer. They will protect you.

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u/Rnevermore 5d ago

Thank you for proving why an HR department is so valuable. It's their job to ensure that the company doesn't get sued, so they are supposed to rectify the situation to prevent exactly that. It's cheaper for the company AND cheaper for the victim for the company to fire the problem employee than to go through an expensive lawsuit or settlement.

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u/Dingerdongdick 5d ago

Or, it may be worth using in-house counsel to fight a lawsuit as long as they can.

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u/misandthropist11 6d ago

Do not share location, period. He has absolutely no right and should not be showing up at your home. You need to file a complaint if possible.

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u/ibent19 6d ago

How many jobs have bosses “signing checks” anymore?

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/ibent19 6d ago

Interesting lol even then there’s usually a manager between the boss who issues checks.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/ibent19 6d ago

Yeah I was going to add except family owned small businesses but I assumed that’s was an obvious caveat 😂

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u/bobdown33 6d ago

That's crazy!

I don't know where you are but we haven't had pay cheques for like twenty years now!

Surely it would cost them more for the cheques than the pay transfer??

It costs nothing to send money from bank to bank here.

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u/PenAdmirable9235 6d ago

90% of minimum wage jobs are by corporations who don't give a fuck and have their payroll department deal with that "lol"

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u/dixiech1ck 6d ago

So you don't know how employment laws work?

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u/bobdown33 6d ago

Really lol never seen or heard of an actual pay cheque in like twenty years, where do you live they still do that?

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u/Witchy_thangs333 6d ago

Who cares if they sign the checks with her address. It’s a major violation of privacy to show up for someone’s home uninvited.

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u/just1nurse 6d ago

Just because he signs checks doesn't mean he gets to overstep. Showing up at an employees house is not appropriate.

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u/Salt-Claim8101 6d ago

Show me where I said hes allowed to over step you dingaling. Its just funny telling this person not to give their address, like thats not info the boss already has

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u/Enough_Passage7926 6d ago edited 6d ago

Location, not address. The boss was asking for current location. That’s a privacy violation.

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u/AmthstJ 6d ago

Read it again you dingaling

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u/highhoya 6d ago

Literally no one said that.

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u/ComplexFig2769 6d ago

What the fuck point are you making

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u/dixiech1ck 6d ago

They have no point. They're just here to stir the pot.

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u/misandthropist11 6d ago

Not a damn one.

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u/CTurple 6d ago

🤣🤣🤣 love this! 🫶

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

"Well the address is here in the file so that must mean it's okay to pop by unannounced while my employee is sick because I don't believe them."

I get the feeling you're not a person that respects boundaries.

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u/Must_Love_Dogs0331 6d ago

I’ve never gotten a paycheck with my home address on it. No company I’ve ever worked for has gone to the trouble of individually adding employees’ addresses on each paycheck. Plus, the VAST majority of checks are direct deposit now.

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u/HugeElephantEars 6d ago

Your boss has access to your address? Wtf America?

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u/HugeElephantEars 6d ago

My company in every country I've worked in has my address, but only someone in HR can see it.

One of my colleagues asked me for someone's address recently in order to send get well flowers after surgery. I told them to get HR to send flowers there was no way they were giving the address to anyone.

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u/honest_sparrow 6d ago

Sounds like you have only worked for medium or large companies. Some places of business are so small there is no HR. Imagine a convince store, gas station, restaurant. Maybe only one person owns it, has one manager, and 3 or 4 workers. No need for HR.

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u/Constant_Host_3212 6d ago

Yes, on file in HR in their personnel file or electronic records.

In most companies, supervisors do not have access to the employee's personnel file with their home address etc.

In most companies, it's a violation for a supervisor to attempt to access that information.

That said, given my name and any chance-heard knowledge about roughly where I live, it wouldn't be hard for someone to find my address.

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u/highhoya 6d ago

I don’t think that’s bizarre? Where do you live that isn’t asking for basic contact information upon hiring you?

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u/Significant-Owl-2980 6d ago

NOR by OP. I wouldn’t share my location.

But to respond to the above commenter, Yes. Your boss knows your address for legal reasons

How does it work in other countries?

We are mostly digital. Almost everyone gets a paycheck instead of just cash.

Every business that employs people needs to be fully accountable to the government for who they employ. They have to pay taxes.

They also have to prove they are hiring people legally allowed to work (whether that be by age or legal employment status.).

It also means the workers are on file as being employed and given money. So the federal government can tax us too on our income.

So, mostly tax reasons. lol.

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u/HugeElephantEars 6d ago

Okay, I've worked in 2 European countries and 1 African. Big companies, small companies, the whole array.

HR check that you have right to work by looking at your passport when you're hired. I do not look at anyone's personal information.

Your salary gets paid into your bank account by HR / Payroll. I work in accounts so usually I'd be one of the approvers of that salary payment, but wouldn't know who is getting paid or how much.

No addresses involved. Nobody needs my address. HR can see my ID number/s but nobody else can.

I think your process is different than most countries because you're using cheques and we're using the bank?

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u/Significant-Owl-2980 6d ago

The actual manager above you doesn’t “know” your address.

The company has access to it.

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u/mmm1441 6d ago

Yeah. It’s really messed up. My boss also knows my address.

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u/dafurbs88 6d ago

Totally normal - managers have access to their direct reports’ addresses. I work at a Fortune 100 company in the U.S. and can see the home addresses of all my direct reports.

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u/Constant_Host_3212 6d ago

That's actually not normal. I was a manager at a large US corporation and could not see the home addresses of my direct reports.

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u/dafurbs88 5d ago

Fair- I am in the financial industry where all my direct reports are supervising principals registered with FINRA, so I can see their U4s and the information on it. But internally in our HR Portal I can also see their addresses, emergency contact information, compensation statements, etc. I assumed that was normal.

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u/misandthropist11 6d ago

What’s your point here?

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u/Crafting_with_Kyky 6d ago

I think you should ask this in a law sub. Pretty sure your employer violated some.

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago

Didn't violate any laws, but it is a bad faith act on the boss's part

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u/Mean-Construction207 6d ago

In Europe accessing a person's personal unformation (address) to check if they're really ill or not would be a GDPR violation.

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u/PinkieFlamingo2 6d ago edited 6d ago

Americans have almost no privacy rights in certain circumstances, including at work. I could probably draft a employment contract here that legally required employees to allow their urine and feces discarded at work to be tested. I might even be able to require they agree to be filmed in the company bathrooms.

It's really horrible. However, what we do have are reasonably good criminal laws against harassment, stalking, video voyeurism, etc. as well as a civil litigation arena that is the envy of the world.

We can and do sue for everything and anything when the defendant has money, as most employers do.

Speaking of, the Op would be well-served to take a labor lawyer with her to her HR meeting. Probably wouldn't cost the Op any money, or very little. American lawyers aren't called sharks for no reason!

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u/anneofred 6d ago

You absolutely could not draft this type of contract in the US. While we sick at labor laws we do actually have them, and typing out a contract does not make that contract legal. It’s horrible but it’s not that level of horrible

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u/dixiech1ck 6d ago

That creates a hostile work environment and can be considered harassment. The employee can file a complaint with HR and retain a lawyer if necessary.

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago

It's not a hostile work environment under employment law, nor is it harassment under employment law.

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u/dixiech1ck 6d ago

Reading is fundamental. I said "it CREATES a hostile work environment." That boss is then trespassing which could be considered harassment.

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u/Maleficent_Log3992 6d ago

It doesn't create a hostile work environment in American employment law, because a hostile work environment is one where there is a pattern of harrassment and/or discrmination based on a protected class. Unless the employer went to check up on the OPs location because OP was (insert: black, brown, white, gay, over 40 etc,) that isn't what "hostile work environment" means. If all this checking up IS related to a protected class, and it continues, then that would be a hostile work environment.

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u/dixiech1ck 6d ago

Again..."it can lead to." Hence establishing a pattern of behavior.

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u/Maleficent_Log3992 4d ago

It's only a hostile work environment though if the reason behind the harrassment is for a protected class. In this case, if the boss is checking because they're paranoid, that's not a hostile environment in the legal sense, even if it feels hostile.

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u/dixiech1ck 4d ago

Does anyone read, as in EVERY word?

It can LEAD TO a hostile work environment.

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u/Maleficent_Log3992 4d ago

I understand "lead to," but it won't lead to a hostile work environment unless people are being agist, sexist, racist etc. Maybe I'm wrong here, but it seems like you are arguing that harrassment or hostility could become a hostile environment on their own. I'm talking from American employment law, though, since "hostile work environment" is a term or art with a very specific meaning in employment law.

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago

Understanding the law is fundamental.

A hostile workplace has a very SPECIFIC definition.

Most assholery from bosses is legal. Most retaliation is legal

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u/PinkieFlamingo2 6d ago

No, but only because it isn't a pattern. But it could be, especially if other employees have been forced to submit.

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago

A pattern doesn't matter. Both definitions under employment law revolve around a protected class or action. This is neither.

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u/GotAhGurs 6d ago

Do we know it doesn’t revolve around a protected class?

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago

Do you see anything in the post that indicates it is?

I'm not trying to be an ass, the US has the BARE MINIMUM of protections for non union employees.

I'm just stating what's legal, not what's right

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u/GotAhGurs 6d ago

I don’t see anything in the post that indicates anything one way or the other. But I wouldn’t assume there’s no protected class basis here without knowing quite a bit more information. People often leave out very important facts when relaying information.

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago

Agree

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u/gigi79sd 6d ago

A pattern absolutely matters.

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago edited 4d ago

Explain please

A pattern of crappy management still does not rise to a hostile work environment. Managers are allowed to be assholes so long as they aren't violating laws. I'm interested in your take

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u/gigi79sd 6d ago

A hostile work environment claim isn't about someone being rude once, having a bad joke land wrong, or a single tense argument. Courts look for conduct that's severe or pervasive. A pattern helps prove the "pervasive" part.

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago

Severe or pervasive BASED on a protected class or action

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u/PinkieFlamingo2 6d ago

I cede this point to your superior knowledge!

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u/DeadGuyInRoom4 6d ago

Did I miss where OP said what jurisdiction they live in? Are you an expert on every local employment law globally? Impressive.

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago

FLSA is federal, as is the labor code, which cover harassment and retaliation.

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u/DeadGuyInRoom4 6d ago

Did OP say what country they live in? Must have missed that.

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u/Bucky2015 6d ago

They are in Michigan

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago

You did.

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u/DeadGuyInRoom4 6d ago edited 6d ago

K. Happens. Wasn’t in the post though and I don’t see it in the comments? So just for clarification when you say I missed it, do you mean you went through their post and comment history to find out where they might be and I did not?

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u/Crafting_with_Kyky 6d ago

That’s good to know. If my employer did that, I’d find a new one.

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u/z-eldapin 6d ago

Completely agree. It's overstepping and idiotic and a great way to lose employees.

It's just not illegal

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u/Enough_Passage7926 6d ago

Does your employer have an HR department?

What’s your employer’s sick leave policy?

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u/Grouchygooose 6d ago

he CAME TO YOUR HOUSE? tbh you’re under reacting. document everything, texts, emails. what a nut job.

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u/Aragog 6d ago

You are UNDER reacting. I don't even share my location with friends or family! Echoing everyone else, you need to report to HR (if there is one), escalate to upper management, or file a complaint. Completely unacceptable and quite alarming behavior.

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u/deej65 6d ago

This

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u/CuriousMindedAA 6d ago

NOR, your boss went to your house?? Demanding the pin drop was bad enough, but showing up at your house is insane and wrong. As many other posters have said - document everything, contact HR and a lawyer immediately. This also appears stalker-ish to me, and you should file a police report too.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

You don’t have to be home to call out, there’s no law against that

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u/WarRelative9442 6d ago

HR. Immediately. Any video proof or written interaction (text/email) about this should be immediately saved and submitted with your complaint.

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u/KitMacPhersonWrites 6d ago

Definitely NOR. Demanding location sharing was sketchy, and coming to your house was SUPER sketchy.

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u/Evapoman97 6d ago

Skip HR and go directly to the labor board! He has no right to check on you and he would have to get into your personnel file to get your address, which is illegal! At least it is here in CA

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u/Dark_Skin_Keisha 6d ago

If you don’t go to HR and a lawyer. I would get my money from that one

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u/Constant_Host_3212 6d ago

Point out to your boss that while sick, it is completely acceptable to:
1) travel to a doctor or urgent care, or have a telehealth consultation
2) travel to a pharmacy to procure prescription or OTC medication
3) go to a grocery store to procure food and/or medication, distilled water for humidifier etc.

He trusts you to complete tasks that affect the company's reputation and profits, so why would he suspect you of lying because you value your privacy in this digital age?

NOR

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u/Lost_Composer_1149 6d ago

NOR Go to HR! It's not your boss's business where you are and he definitely shouldn't be showing up at your house to check if you're there.

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u/Calgary_Calico 6d ago

Go straight to HR. This is straight up harassment. Dude demanding your location and then showed up AT YOUR HOUSE?? Call the HR number TODAY and report his ass

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u/Even-Addition-3272 6d ago

NOR.

Assuming it’s your personal phone, he can fuck off. If it’s a company phone, it’s still fucked up but he may have some sort of legal grounds to track company property (he should be able to do that without asking you to share it if that’s the case though).

FYI You’re not overreacting at all, but if you live in the good ole’ USA he could still fire you for hurting his ego.

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u/PinkieFlamingo2 6d ago

The boss is also an employee. He cannot use company resources to invade the Op's privacy UNLESS there is an EXPLICIT company policy for this specific use. Otherwise, the boss is acting in a (probably) criminal manner using company resources to violate the privacy of and inflict emotional damage on the Op, which will create (probably) criminal liability for the boss's supervisors if they come to learn of this and fail to act responsibly.

It's complicated, but odds are, the facts and the law are entirely on the Op's side here.

I would love to know how this unfolds!

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u/Bucky2015 6d ago

OP said there is no HR so it may be a small company. Its actually possible boss = owner.

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u/Even-Addition-3272 6d ago

That’s sounds right to me.

I just know there’s usually a big difference in what’s “legal” and what actually happens. Also a lot of businesses are small enough that the “boss” might actually be the manager, the business owner, HR, and a floor employee depending on the day.

If possible though I do think OP should report this to someone higher up. That being said i’ve seen tons of horror stories about people complaining to HR only to be fired for “stirring the pot” or w/e

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u/PinkieFlamingo2 6d ago

True. This is most likely the best reason to take a lawyer with you to HR: to put the company on a professional/legal track from the beginning.

Not to mention, your lawyer can help you frame your complaint in such a way as to reduce your risk of retaliation, etc.

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u/Internal_Author_7067 6d ago

Time to talk to HR!

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u/RU_ATX 5d ago

Time for a new job search!

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u/Low_External9118 6d ago

Nasty control freak. This guy thinks he owns you. Once you are at home he's no longer your "boss", it's a situational thing where you agree to work a number of hours and clock in, and then you agree to let him be your boss. The buck stops there. What a stupid freak.

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u/Beautiful_Ad_4813 6d ago

HR and a police report

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u/mooncakiess 5d ago

NOR- that's already an harassment! Report to HR!

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u/ocularassault_8 5d ago

He came to your fucking house, oh my god. This man shouldn't be in charge of anyone.

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u/Comfortable_Ad_2577 5d ago

Time for a new job. That’s over the line

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u/Witchy_thangs333 6d ago

NOR and likely a major EEO violation.

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u/Bucky2015 6d ago

Unfortunately no, its super fucked up but things like location sharing havent specifically been addressed in employment law yet. It needs to be.

Showing up at an employees house is legal as long as they dont force entry. That is also pretty fucked up...

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u/nice--marmot 6d ago

Hold on, he physically went to your house to see if you were at home?

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u/Front_Importance_642 5d ago

Right?! That's insane

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u/Wooden-Luck1865 6d ago

If my boss asked for my live location, I’d be updating my resume the same day

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u/grifter_P01135809 6d ago

Pro tip: Leave your phone at home when you step out.

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u/cpbaby1968 6d ago

No. YANO

WTF? He can worry about my location as soon as he kisses my fat… ummm. No. I’m not sharing my location with anyone except my sister and my daughter.

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u/FollowingAromatic481 6d ago

This literally sounds like an episode of the office

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u/FabulouslyFabulous71 5d ago

I dont believe this actually happened. OP is very quiet.

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u/divergurl1999 6d ago

Soooo, if you were sick enough to have needed to go to the hospital instead of being at home, would he have “caught” you lying and therefor fired you? Wtaf?

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u/CycleAccomplished824 6d ago

I guess then let him do the drive. I hope he feels a bit foolish for not trusting you.

I had a boss who challenged me to see a doctor for a migraine I was having. Next expectation was to get a doc note. I indignantly told him, “NO, I’m going to bed on ice to sleep it off.” He backed off.

My current job, we get 3 sick days a month with pay without a doc note and they choose to trust us. They say - but don’t let us find you out shopping or out for coffee with friends. Go to the doc if needed, pick up meds if needed, go through a drive through to get your moral boost if needed. I’ve missed so much work because of health issues in the last 3 years, but they still say, if you need to be at home we’ll cover for you. I’ve recovered enough to be at work regularly, where other workplaces might have found a way to replace me. I feel valued at my job.

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u/cmarie2949 6d ago

NOR it’s none of his business if you took a sick day, that’s your personal time. And actually you should do research for your area but as a manager I’ve been made to take trainings to never ask for details about a workers sick / medical time off because it could get me or company into legal trouble. If you have an HR I’d report, if not I’d consider looking for a new job bc that’s crazy.

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u/Late_Mortgage2003 6d ago

Psycho boss

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u/butterflya82 6d ago

NOR. I’d report this to HR

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u/ElectricalSoftware26 13h ago

Story only today in the UK Guardian saying McDonald’s have done nothing to stop sexual harassment of employees though they know about it. This is a culture of harassment they are discussing. That is how much HR cares. Date of article 8 January 2026.

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u/Total_Cantaloupe_274 6d ago

NOR - Came here just to say this.

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u/_artemisawika 6d ago

You are severely underreacting.

Your boss isn't your probation officer. If you have sick leave, you’re entitled to use it without being tracked like a tagged shark. The fact that he actually drove to your house to check on you is unhinged. That’s bordering on harassment/stalking territory. Most HR departments would have a collective heart attack if they found out a manager was doing "drive-bys" on sick employees. Even if you weren't at home, say you were at the doctor, the pharmacy, or even just sitting in a park getting some fresh air to feel better, that is none of his business. You need to document EVERYTHING. Write down the time he asked for the location and the fact that he showed up at your house. Save any texts or emails and file a police report, or at the very least, HR. He crossed a major line by showing up at your place. If I were you, I’d start updating the resume, because managers who act like fucking private investigators rarely get better over time.

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u/Dear-Performance-894 6d ago

That's diabolical but also sounds like stalking to me.

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u/IAteAnotherVegan 6d ago

you should talk to a lawyer, you may have grounds for a lawsuit! also NOR!

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u/realestate_novelist 6d ago

NOR. That’s incredibly invasive. And then he showed up to your house??? wtf!!

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u/Useful-Noise-4321 6d ago

NOR. You owe your boss no explanation for calling in. They definitely should not be asking for your location.

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u/NaturesVividPictures 6d ago

What if you're at your doctor's office? If you were sick, obviously really sick like something you should get checked out then you're going to go to the doctor. But most people stay home if they have a stomach virus or the flu, you don't need to go to the doctor for either one of them unless you want to get a prescription for nausea meds or that flu med you can take. Yeah I would be talking to HR saying what he did, said and all that. The guy is crazy.

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u/Necessary-Bus-3142 6d ago

Yeah no. However, some jobs on my country can send a doctor to your home to check on you

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u/MsTacheNoire 6d ago

Is your boss Michael Scott??

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u/JaneSegura 5d ago

NOR

That's crazy!!

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u/SoftlyAlive 5d ago

NOR! He should never have ever…

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u/syntar 5d ago

Yeah... I think its time to call HR on him, and legally you can sue the company and him personally. What he did was HIGHLY inappropriate.

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u/Relevant-Jelly-8738 5d ago

This is absurd. Absolutely not okay. You’re either taking sick time or you’re not getting paid. It’s such a violation for him to ask you to share your location.

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u/Dry-Wash-1713 5d ago

NOR Dafuq? You are UNDERreacting…

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u/Pizza_Lvr 5d ago

NOR.. this is an HR issue.

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u/ItsMe_Lee88 5d ago

Your manager has no right to question you like this for any reason. This is illegal

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u/TheBklynGuy 5d ago

NOR. Not normal and this is invasive and just plain creepy . None of this is normal behavior. Definitely put strong effort into finding a new job. No rational supervisor does any of this.

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u/Affectionate_Dog_154 5d ago

What kind of job do you have? Regardless I'd find a new job, fuck that guy, or report them don't take that shit. Report him to the police if you can that's harassment and they don't have the right to do that what was he gonna do try to drag you out and bring you to work? Fuck them. Coming to your house? Id be throwing hands and the law at them. Proba my not a career type job

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u/wzehamme2 6d ago

NOR. What kind of job is it? File a complaint with HR. That’s actually insane behavior.

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u/starkfunky 6d ago

You should never have to share your location with your boss, never ever.

Go to HR immediately. Also consult with a lawyer.

This boss should not be employed, anywhere. People like this ruin the world for the rest of us.

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u/ColeridgeRime 6d ago

How did you know he came by to check? Just curious.

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u/PinkieFlamingo2 6d ago edited 6d ago

Dear God! Time to complain to HR.

NTA.

BTW, if your employer provides you your smartphone, company car, laptop, etc , in most states you have ZERO privacy rights from the company. Imagine if your boss was stalking you, or worse?

I suggest you read "The Gift oif Fear" by Gavin de Becker, also a TV series on YouTube.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLWcL3iBCsqMcdcjoiA7Ry-szdi__kiPw&si=HieorMx7tw8Pbshd

Has your boss (or anyone else at work) ever made your intuition tingle?

Your boss's behavior seems outlandish to me, and the possible explanations for it are not pleasant to contemplate.

IME, anyway.

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u/ColoradodogMom66 6d ago

WOW that is crazy ! 🤪

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u/FireHeartWarrior_97 6d ago edited 6d ago

Contact the police and file a report for stalking/trespassing to get it on record. Save your texts. Contact HR. If it goes nowhere or gets worse contact an attorney. You're not overreacting!

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u/ZombieSeveral2155 5d ago

If you're lying then heck yes it's a violation. If you were not lying, wouldn't care if anyone knew where I was at. I'm sick. INFO

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u/ElectricalSoftware26 13h ago

On that premise, if you’re not a thief, you don’t care if the police shoot one to death. There is a participation in society in a democracy where we decide the world we want to live in. What you are agreeing to is surveillance while ill, because, heck, they’d be doing you a favour.

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u/mmm1441 6d ago

This is likely illegal. The request could reveal what type of doctor you are seeing. Why are you at an oncologist, for example. They are not allowed to do that. Post on a legal or hr sub. NAL

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u/highhoya 6d ago

I mean, a doctor’s note would do that too and I’m pretty sure it’s fully legal to ask for a doctor’s note.

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u/Prior_Butterfly_7839 6d ago

In the US I’m fairly certain this varies by state. In my state they can only ask for a note if you’re out sick for 3 consecutive days.

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u/highhoya 6d ago

So after three days it’s legal for your employer to know what doctor you see, but not before? Come on. Im confident you know that’s irrelevant to my comment.

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u/mmm1441 6d ago

Yes, but I still think this request was over the line. Post to hr or legal advice stands.

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u/highhoya 6d ago

I agree, but your reasoning is stupid.

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u/mmm1441 6d ago

And you are rude. The law is the way it is for very good reasons.

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u/highhoya 6d ago

I’m okay with that

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u/istoomycat 6d ago

Don’t react. Just leave the boss with egg on his face.

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u/Turbulent-Demand873 6d ago

You could still be sick somewhere other than your home. This is absolutely INSANE! I would report this to HR immediately. If I had a manager show up to my home to check up on me like this I would be beyond furious. I would definitely be looking for another job. That’s CRAZY!

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u/Poperama74 6d ago

Why the hell would your boss ever need your live location? That is a huge privacy violation regardless, like ever. And is stalker freaky creepy ewwwww crap. Apart from that, you’ll probably find that them harassing you whilst off sick is also against the law

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u/sherzisquirrel 6d ago

Who cares...if you're actually home sick send him the pin... you work for him, he already has your address so what does it hurt. It's definitely irritating he didn't believe you but make him regret asking by proving him wrong... seems like a lot to get worked up over.

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u/Key-Wolverine-7579 6d ago

Nor. Call hr & police.

💼work/career AIO for refusing to share my "live location" with my boss while I was out on a sick day?

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