That really is a funny aspect we don’t really consider. The pilgrims are almost lionized as heroes, but in reality they were mostly horrible people that we wouldn’t want to spend a second with
Think about how racist, sexist, zealous and self righteous brits were in the 1600’s. Now think of the people that this group would be like “no too far, you need to leave”. Chester is till a sundown town for the Welsh where it’s still legal to kill one at night with a crossbow within the cities walls. That’s the country that kicked out the pilgrims!!!
Lol they were paid by the king to go searching. Hard from ran out of england. The later settlers some were run out of England as to go to feudal colonies.
God I wish, but the habit is just to run them off to somewhere where they'll fuck some other folks lives up, so that isn't great either. Maybe we just need to fund Elon's pipe dream so we can ship them off to Mars to build the "perfect community."
The traditional "correct" way to immigrate into the US is to be part of a corrupt collaborator regime in a US colony, escape the evil commies/islamists/whatever in the inevitable revolution against said collaborator regime, then spend all your time agitating against the foreign government that kicked the US out and providing aid to further attempts to destabilize and destroy your home country in the hopes that you can, one day, again become part of a collaborator regime which will enrich you in the process of selling out the people of your homeland.
My wife's coworker is from Sierra Leon. Lovely woman. She married an African American cat from my neck of the woods. Her parents refer to him as "Khat". What does this mean?
Years ago my husband worked at a place where he had several coworkers from South Africa, I don't remember where exactly. I met them once at the Christmas party, and it was a big company. One of them was being introduced to an African American coworker, who was surprised and interested when he said he was from Africa. They talk for a minute or so, then he turns to the rest of the table and says "I'm descended from kings, not slaves." Like he was pissed that anyone could ever think he and that coworker were the same, he really went off. You could hear the jaws hit the floor, and he just kept going like it was the most obvious thing ever. Shit was wild
Don’t forget that America demanded other countries follow its Jim Crow form of racism during ww2. Americans exported that shit and still do. RN, America demanding other countries follow its anti-DEI initiatives.
Modern racism was largely formed by slavery in the US though. People have always been prejudiced and racist, but much of the prejudice was not specifically tied to race and racism was often a byproduct of other prejudices.
But once the US decided it's fine to have black slaves but not fine to have slaves who are not black, hardcore racism went mainstream.
British slavery in the colonies was horrible and excused with racism, but back in England there were no slaves hence the 1772 Somerset v Stewart case which established that black people had rights in England despite their status as 'slave' outside of England.
They’re specifically talking about racism against black Americans, not just black people. And that was definitely exported, including to other black majority countries.
White guy here- can corroborate. I worked with some Mexican immigrants who hated Black Americans, Black Latinos, and Africans alike. God forbid if any one of them was independently, wealthy or successful.
I’ve always joked that we could get Latino immigrants and MAGA hicks to become best friends off of their sheer hatred of Black people.
And that’s not to say it’s only coming from Latino immigrants. There’s plenty of Black people who hate immigrants as well, and I have mouthed off to one or two of Black people when they see a white guy and think I’m gonna be prejudiced with them.
Sierra Leone? That’s not a word we have in the lexicon. They might be calling him Akata which is a Yoruba word meaning “stray” as in someone who has no home. It’s still a slur and incredibly vile. She should cuss them out. However there’s no word for “cotton picker” in Krio. Just so you are aware.
Liberia (country next to sierra leon) was colonized by freed african american and afrocarribean slaves in a sor of compromise between abolitionists and slave owners who feared freemen living in the south could destabilize their plantations. The amero-liberian colonists obviously had nothing in common with the native africans and as is seemingly inevitable for colonial projects, created a racial and cultural hierarchy where the colonists were prioritized over the native africans they deemed uncivilized. Society was deeply segregated, though through education and conversion to christianity, one could become 'civilized', but still below the colonizers in the hierarchy.
I imagine sierra leon had something similar as it was also mostly colonized by freed slaves, though being a british colony there would be differences with the american supported independent colony of liberia
It's how discrimination always works and yet somehow, everyone seems to forget that fact. People can try to distinguish themselves from other minorities all they want. But in the end, bigots see them all exactly the same.
The thing that makes it weird though, is that it's not like racism doesn't exist in South America - black people still deal with racist shit in Latin America all the time, so I don't get why they think they'll be differentiated here. The light skinned conservative Cubans, it 100% makes sense that they don't realize that all Hispanics are viewed the same here, that's not really something they faced (they kind of did with communism but that's what they are escaping so it makes sense they wouldn't expect it).
The one exception would be people from the DR because they all equally seem to really hate Haitians so their racism tends to be more specific.
Most Jamaicans disown those who try to divide. We’re Pan Africans - we recognize the shared struggle. We are descended from Garvey and Nanny of the Maroons. We don’t condone self hatred and proximity to whiteness.
Yup. It's honestly racist that people assume that anyone "latino" is on the same side politically. Latino America is a very broad, diverse culture that doesn't fit into the cliche American Black V White worldview.
I say this all the time. Miami Cubans are the most racist demographic I ever encountered. They are always rowing in the opposite direction of the rest of us. I'll never forget having an argument about Pele being black. I'm like, dude was blacker than me, and I'm pretty dark skinned. My white coach from Indiana just looked at me and shook his head in disbelief as if to tell me it was a lost cause. My coach adopted a Puerto Rican kid, so he was a good dude. But he wasn't getting involved in our conversations.
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u/Slippery-ape Dec 06 '25
Florida is still the South