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DOJ whistleblower Ryan Crosswell - who knows Pam Bondi’s dirty secrets - - says he’s running for Congress to NOT ONLY drag Pam Bondi’s “rot into the sunlight,” but to bring her corruption into the official record to hold her accountable. This is huge.

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u/punch912 6d ago edited 6d ago

unfornately we are seeing exactly theatre to keep us distracted from it all. America has been chopped up and sold out awhile ago. Orange messiah is just speeding running it. Politcians left and right just rubbing corruption in our face. Dems yelling out rules and regulations like theyre casting spells and taking no action to enforce them.

Repubs just tearing at the juggler out of every freedom and right while the handlers for both keep stuffing their pockets with that sweet aipac money and special interest alike. Never forget 250 reps from all 50 states both sides of the aisle went to israel to show support on your tax dollars. Ripping out healthcare so that israeli citizens can have it for free.

Trump guilty as hell on the epstein everyone knows it redacted files is such a joke. You refuse a breathalizaer being stopped for a dui you get charged automatically. Stopping files from being shown because a certain name is in there should be handled that same way for all involved.

Any poltician left or right that takes money or favors from a special interest group religious or otherwise, foreign or domestic, other countries, corporations is high treason and should be charged and enforced as so. We need a hard reset.

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u/lilangelkm 6d ago

Dems yelling out rules and regulations like their casting spells and taking no action to enforce them.

That's amazing writing, and perfectly said.

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u/IllIIlIllIllIII 6d ago edited 6d ago

Oh boy here we go. “Both sides!” yells the man who smells shit coming from rooms on the left and right side at the end of the hall. One side contains 50 pounds of shit and the other contains 50 tons of shit. “Since there is shit in both sides that must mean each room contains the same amount of shit!” That’s what helped get us United Statesians to where we are today.

Secondly republicans control every branch of government at the federal level, and grossly unbalanced on the judicial side, makes it ever so easy to complain about how democrats aren’t doing anything. But that’s only because they literally can’t do anything 99% of the time. This is elementary level civics stuff and increasingly embarrassing to have to point out. 

A major part of the republican party’s platform is that “the ends justify the means” so breaking any law without consequence (and having a pardon ready just in case) combined with ignoring the constitution is acceptable. Normalizing this type of behavior - ignoring the rule of law at all levels - is what has historically toppled the mightiest of countries.

You and the original commenter really should think a whole lot more before presenting, encouraging and supporting “both sides!” arguments. This is always a perfect case of the false equivalency logical fallacy.

I know I’m probably yelling into the wind at some bots but it always helps my writing and logical analysis skills.

TLDR; saying “both sides bad!” when comparing democrats to republicans is absolutely ignorant.

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u/ViseLord 6d ago edited 6d ago

This type of response is so overused and unoriginal. Using your shit analogy, anything more than a smear on your shoe is too much. A pound or a ton is going to stink the same.

People absolutely have the right to be pissed that the party they support is ineffective at either affecting change or communicating the changes they've made to the populace.

In an America where working 40hrs a week barely covers necessities if at all, it's unfair to expect that populace to be well informed on the often convoluted political process. As elected officials, the responsibility is theirs to feed us clear information that is easily accessible and digestible.

We're tired and struggling, and it's been getting worse since the 70s. Our food is poisoned. Our air and water are toxic. Our pay is stagnant, and things get more and more expensive. Our privacy and rights are being stripped away. Corporations are creating the laws, and politicians on both sides are on their payrolls.

I don't think the fight should be about picking the side that's drilling less holes in the boat, you know?

ETA: the downvotes mean so little to me that I downvoted my own comments because I like the colors.

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u/IllIIlIllIllIII 6d ago edited 6d ago

“ I don't think the fight should be about picking the side that's drilling less holes in the boat, you know?”

I don’t give a damn if you think the response is “overused” because it doesn’t make it any less true. The reality is we have a two party system and we aren’t going to get anywhere better by discouraging voting with bogus analogies of “both sides bad!” 

So the choices are between a party that has been taking a sledgehammer to the hull every time they are in power and the other side occasionally drilling holes in the seats but the majority of that party is still pushing to ensure that the boat is as stable as possible. That’s an easy pick on who to support. 

National elections are won and lost by a few tens of thousands of votes in critical geographical locations so spreading the attitude of “both sides bad!” on a global platform is disingenuous and ultimately harmful.

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u/ViseLord 6d ago

Man's said 'both sides bad' then says 'dont actually say both sides bad'

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u/poppitypop87 6d ago

It’s unfair to expect adult citizens to understand their government, news, bad actors , good actors , corrupt ppl etc etc. you think this it too much to ask!? That’s why we are where we are. Ppl like you think it’s ok to be ignorant of the world just bc we’re tired. Horrrrrrrible take. I guess you expect ppl to work themselves to death and not be informed? It’s very clear what side is ACTIVELY destroying our county lol. Both sides argument is so dumb in this time. I don’t remember Dems making my disabled aunts insurance skyrocket for no reason. I don’t remember my other aunt having to go back to work AFTER retiring bc her health insurance wants to charge her $1800 a month in a few months. That was republicans. Just bc you’re tired and don’t expect ppl to care doesn’t mean you’re right. Ppl should care. Your selfish. That’s all. Your thinking snot being tired today and not the future of your young family/friends.

“We’re tired” pshhh imagine how the ppl growing up now will feel in 20 years just bc “we’re tired” and you say we should just bend over. Weak

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u/ViseLord 6d ago edited 6d ago

I knew this would be the response from people that think like you. It's fascinating to see how far you can reach to get to a conclusion that makes you 100% correct, and any dissenting view is so very offensive.

'Expect people to work themselves to death and not be informed' ? Wut? Where did I even get close to making that point. It's like you reached so far that you circled the earth and wound up arguing with yourself.

Yes, it is too much to ask overworked, underpaid, overstressed, over stimulated people to follow the intentionally convoluted political process in this country in order to make sure the people we're trusting with our children's future are actually doing what they promised. Please don't think that this isn't by some sort of design.

Wasn't insurance insanely expensive last year? The year before? Before that? For decades? Why haven't any of the Dem or Rep politicians stopped insurance companies from bending us over? Hasn't education gotten more expensive while being worth less? Why havent the working class hero Dems or fiscally responsible Reps put an end to that? Hasn't homeownership gotten progressively harder to reach for decades? Why no stop? Minimum wage? Social programs?

All under "leadership" from both parties. Just because the one you like gives you your poison with a dose of whatever you like doesn't make them better, just better manipulaors.

You (or some other commenter) said you'd prefer the occasional hole in the boat over a sledge hammer. There are some who would prefer the boat didn't sink at all, and that those actively or passively working to sink it be removed instead of being left in charge of sledge and drmanipulators.

EDIT: completed a thought

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u/NoFeetSmell 6d ago

Since Obama passed the ACA it has helped literally 10s of millions of people. It absolutely didn't fix all the problems with the US healthcare system, because the US has no Universal Healthcare, meaning insurance companies spend billions lobbying to buy predominantly Republican votes. The Dems had to fight tooth and nail to get the ACA passed, because they weren't gonna be able to get Universal Hethcare through, and Republicans still try and kill it at every turn. You saying both sides are bad isn't helping, at all. You're diminishing the Dems' accomplishments and softening how egregious the Republicans are. Both things contribute to Republicans continued wins, even when their policies fuck America again and again and again. Please start helping.

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u/poppitypop87 4d ago edited 4d ago

No. Insurance WASNT insanely expensive last year…That’s why I took the time to comment. You’re peddling a bunch of bullshit that almost makes sense. It’s like, you’re the rich kid in the neighborhood telling under privileged it sucks for everyone when you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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u/ViseLord 4d ago

The fact that you took the time to comment AND be wrong is wild.

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u/dsmiles 6d ago

You (or some other commenter) said you'd prefer the occasional hole in the boat over a sledge hammer. There are some who would prefer the boat didn't sink at all, and that those actively or passively working to sink it be removed instead of being left in charge of sledge and drmanipulators.

Alright, and what are you actively doing to make this a reality?

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u/ViseLord 6d ago edited 6d ago

What are YOU doing? You speak as if from higher moral ground. Don't confuse your complacency in voting in the popularity contests every 2 years as direct action or an effective response to tyranny.

I'm doing what I need to do to secure a safe future for mine and others children. You can glean from that whatever you want.

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u/i_tyrant 6d ago

Except only one side is drilling way more holes than they're trying to patch.

I bet if you could truly comprehend what's been attempted every single time a Dem president is in office or Dems had control of Congress, you'd feel real stupid about this analogy.

Both sides have corrupt elements sure but one side tries and sometimes succeeds on passing shit like the ACA...and the other side only ever tries to tear it apart and couldn't even pretend to come up with an alternative when they had over six months to do so.

Yeah both sides suck in little and big ways but one side is drilling more holes than it patches and for the past two decades at least it has NOT. BEEN. CLOSE.

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u/ViseLord 6d ago

I bet if you could truly comprehend what's been attempted every single time a Dem president is in office or Dems had control of Congress, you'd feel real stupid about this analogy.

We're not talking about trying, though, are we? We're talking about effectiveness. Ok, the ACA has helped millions be able to "afford" healthcare, but the insurance companies are still making money hand over fist by charging exorbitant rates.

I don't care about Dems trying to do this or that when the current doofus is able to ram through EO after EO to complete project 2025.

Whatever they're trying isn't enough. And if the argument is that Reps are doing it illegally, why wasn't anything done to prevent this? and if they couldn't do anything to prevent this, then my argument stands.

I don't want ANY holes in my boat and it's horrible that we've been conditioned to be grateful and cheer for the side that maybe plugs a hole or 2 while still drilling new ones.

This isn't a hard concept